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Disappointing Dublin Set

eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 1,021
edited July 2010 in Given To Fly (live)
am i the only one who was really disappointed with PJ's setlist from Dublin last nite. Felt that too many great songs were not played. it was my 10th Pj show and it was amazing. the crowd were amazing and band on fire. but no rearview, immortality, nothing off no code. Maybe im just nitpicking but i was maybe i was spoiled with berlin last year

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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,229
    eboweddie wrote:
    am i the only one who was really disappointed with PJ's setlist from Dublin last nite. Felt that too many great songs were not played. it was my 10th Pj show and it was amazing. the crowd were amazing and band on fire. but no rearview, immortality, nothing off no code. Maybe im just nitpicking but i was maybe i was spoiled with berlin last year
    Sorry to hear you were disappointed by the set list... I hope you still managed to have a good time - I'd love to go see a bunch of European shows, as what attracts me to this band isn't the songs they play, but the way they harness energy and interact with the crowd. Looks like you're just going to have to see more shows :D
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  • IwasBit10IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    eboweddie wrote:
    am i the only one who was really disappointed with PJ's setlist from Dublin last nite. Felt that too many great songs were not played. it was my 10th Pj show and it was amazing. the crowd were amazing and band on fire. but no rearview, immortality, nothing off no code. Maybe im just nitpicking but i was maybe i was spoiled with berlin last year

    For the first show of a mini-tour, I thought the setlist looked solid. Great encores, including Of The Earth. I say you have much to be thankful for for being at that show.
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  • savmansavman Posts: 230
    Lukin is on No Code.
  • lukins.lawyerlukins.lawyer Posts: 128
    Disappointing Set List? God, You people make me sick. I've never had a complaint and never will. They could play evenflow and alive 5 times each and I'd still appreciate it and rock out.

    Get a grip on yourself. Don't claim to be a fan, and then post that garbage saying they disappointed you.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,617
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Disappointing Set List? God, You people make me sick. I've never had a complaint and never will. They could play evenflow and alive 5 times each and I'd still appreciate it and rock out.

    Get a grip on yourself. Don't claim to be a fan, and then post that garbage saying they disappointed you.


    Ok fanboy....I'm calling you on your bullshit. No way anyone would be happy about PJ playing nothing but Alive and Evenflow 5 times each.

    You don't get to pick who can and cannot call themselves a fan of the band. Get off that horse.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    eboweddie wrote:
    am i the only one who was really disappointed with PJ's setlist from Dublin last nite.

    Hmmmm..... probably!
  • lukins.lawyerlukins.lawyer Posts: 128
    Listen Flowerchild, Don't make wild accusations here. Nobody is telling anyone they aren't allowed to be a fan.

    Anyone who leaves a PJ concert (IN DUBLIN AT THE O2) and says they are disappointed because they didn't hear the songs they wanted ISN'T a true fan.. you take what they give you and beg for more.

    As for calling me on my bullshit - I don't care that radio stations worldwide gangraped the Ten singles...I still go wild when they come on.. and I'll take them any day at any concert.

    Don't post that garbage.
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  • OkOk Posts: 2,144
    Its all subjective, but I can tell you I'd probably never be disappointed if I heard a brand new song, and a never cover in one night - in 20+ shows that's never happended to me.
  • SeaSea Posts: 3,080
    Be nice....


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  • redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    everyones got a opinion, but the band have a huge catalogue, i think they do their best each and every show to put on a great show with a great setlist.
    thats my opinion
  • eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 1,021
    If you read my post i just said i was disappointed with the SET LIST, not the performance. the concert was amazing. Pj are always fab live but i have every right to give my opinion. to say that im not a 'true fan' because i commented about a set list makes me laugh out loud.

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  • redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    yep fair play man, im with you, you have a right to discuss these topics, thats what i thought the forum was about.
    personally im always interested to hear what fellow FANS have to say :D
    im looking forward to london
  • DavieBDavieB Posts: 222
    This Friday will be my first Pearl Jam gig... I really would LOVE a setlist like Dublin's, but I guess because they mix it up so much, it's unlikely now...

    I REALLY wanted to hear Long Road :cry:

    I would start a "Please play Long Road" thread but I've got a feeling that would just annoy people more than anything, plus I have no real reason to!

    Can't wait to see what we get!
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,617
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Nobody is telling anyone they aren't allowed to be a fan.

    Anyone who leaves a PJ concert (IN DUBLIN AT THE O2) and says they are disappointed because they didn't hear the songs they wanted ISN'T a true fan.. you take what they give you and beg for more.


    Nice post. Didn't take long to contradict yourself.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,229
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Listen Flowerchild, Don't make wild accusations here. Nobody is telling anyone they aren't allowed to be a fan.

    Anyone who leaves a PJ concert (IN DUBLIN AT THE O2) and says they are disappointed because they didn't hear the songs they wanted ISN'T a true fan.. you take what they give you and beg for more.

    As for calling me on my bullshit - I don't care that radio stations worldwide gangraped the Ten singles...I still go wild when they come on.. and I'll take them any day at any concert.

    Don't post that garbage.
    I consider myself a fan of Apple products, yet would (and have) happily registered complaints about them. Similarly, I consider myself a Pearl Jam fan, although I've attended a few Pearl Jam shows I personally consider to have been lackluster. All of that said, don't tell me (or the OP) that we are not as worthy of fans as you are - when you attend a concert, you have the right to voice your opinion of it from the moment you exchange money for a ticket. In fact, I would say voicing an opinion on a matter is one of few things that separate us as humans from sheep.
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  • daveokeeffedaveokeeffe Posts: 21
    I thought the setlist last night was great and the performance was incredible and though I may not agree with what you say(OP) I will defend to the death your right to say it.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    My two cents:

    1) I wouldn't be happy with a set that consisted of Alive played over and over again, even though its a great song. A lot of the fun around obsessively following setlists is the variety, and part of the awesome vibe around seeing PJ in person is not knowing for sure what they'll play.
    2) People complaining about setlists doesn't really bother me ... I mean, I didn't think this set was super-duper exciting either in terms of the song selection, although the new tune IS super-duper exiting. The good news is that they'll be playing a bunch more shows, with different setlists, and my "OMGGGG!!!" setlist moment will likely come later in the tour. All that being said, I do wonder if someone really likes the band all that much if they feel that the ONLY way to enjoy a show is getting the exact songs they want. Not accusing the OP of that, just confessing to questioning some others who seem unhappy no matter what the band does.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,229
    rebornFixer wrote:
    My two cents:

    1) I wouldn't be happy with a set that consisted of Alive played over and over again, even though its a great song. A lot of the fun around obsessively following setlists is the variety, and part of the awesome vibe around seeing PJ in person is not knowing for sure what they'll play.
    2) People complaining about setlists doesn't really bother me ... I mean, I didn't think this set was super-duper exciting either in terms of the song selection, although the new tune IS super-duper exiting. The good news is that they'll be playing a bunch more shows, with different setlists, and my "OMGGGG!!!" setlist moment will likely come later in the tour. All that being said, I do wonder if someone really likes the band all that much if they feel that the ONLY way to enjoy a show is getting the exact songs they want. Not accusing the OP of that, just confessing to questioning some others who seem unhappy no matter what the band does.
    The OP actually did describe the show as 'amazing', stating a great crowd, and that the band was 'on fire'. To me it seemed evident that the OP had a good time, just wished for a more unique set list - seems fair to me!
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    For the most part it looks like quite a 'safe' setlist, so I can understand a bit of dissapointment if the OP is comparing it with some of the mind-blowing sets that they've put together at other shows. Personally speaking though, I'm always just grateful for the times I get to see PJ live. It was a long wait from 2000-2006 when they didn't play Europe at all!
  • PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,877
    next time go to a creed show
  • ManOfTheHour75ManOfTheHour75 Posts: 339
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Listen Flowerchild, Don't make wild accusations here. Nobody is telling anyone they aren't allowed to be a fan.

    Anyone who leaves a PJ concert (IN DUBLIN AT THE O2) and says they are disappointed because they didn't hear the songs they wanted ISN'T a true fan.. you take what they give you and beg for more.

    As for calling me on my bullshit - I don't care that radio stations worldwide gangraped the Ten singles...I still go wild when they come on.. and I'll take them any day at any concert.

    Don't post that garbage.

    After reading this thread you ABSOLUTELY win the posting garbage category!

    By the way I thought the Dublin setlist was really good and I would love to have been at the first show that they played Of The Earth.
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  • MD53409MD53409 Posts: 83
    ManOfTheHour75 wrote:
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Listen Flowerchild, Don't make wild accusations here. Nobody is telling anyone they aren't allowed to be a fan.

    Anyone who leaves a PJ concert (IN DUBLIN AT THE O2) and says they are disappointed because they didn't hear the songs they wanted ISN'T a true fan.. you take what they give you and beg for more.

    As for calling me on my bullshit - I don't care that radio stations worldwide gangraped the Ten singles...I still go wild when they come on.. and I'll take them any day at any concert.

    Don't post that garbage.

    After reading this thread you ABSOLUTELY win the posting garbage category!

    By the way I thought the Dublin setlist was really good and I would love to have been at the first show that they played Of The Earth.

    Agreed!!!! I've been to a few firsts and I consider them highlights of my shows past.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,583
    lukins.lawyer wrote:
    Disappointing Set List? God, You people make me sick. I've never had a complaint and never will. They could play evenflow and alive 5 times each and I'd still appreciate it and rock out.

    Get a grip on yourself. Don't claim to be a fan, and then post that garbage saying they disappointed you.

    It's funny how your username is lawyer, yet you aren't very logical. Fans of a band can never be disappointed by that band?

    Congrats on being fine hearing the same two songs over and over again and never having a complaint. 99% of Pearl Jam's true diehard fans don't fall into either of those two categories.
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  • starmap3333starmap3333 Posts: 3,925
    eboweddie wrote:
    am i the only one who was really disappointed with PJ's setlist from Dublin last nite. Felt that too many great songs were not played. it was my 10th Pj show and it was amazing. the crowd were amazing and band on fire. but no rearview, immortality, nothing off no code. Maybe im just nitpicking but i was maybe i was spoiled with berlin last year

    too bad go to the next show!! :0)
  • wozza77wozza77 Posts: 300
    Everything in perspective.

    Not the best show I have been too but every PJ show I have been to has a 'unique wow glad I didn't miss this' moment. For most this would be Arms Aloft and Of the Earth. But I have to say one of the best betterman sing alongs and Alive was electric. My personal fav was Not For Me & Arms Aloft

    For me this setlist was actually better than I was expecting as the 1st show of the tour is normally shorter than most with a standard hits feel. Dublin didn;t have that but didn't quite hit the highs of some of the shows I have seen.

    Still it just different degrees of incredibleness in my opinion.
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  • Nittany1bnNittany1bn Near Philadelphia Posts: 214
    streetcore is such a great record, for my favorite band to play a song by one of my all-time favorites (for the first time ever)....and debut an original....i'm not sure i would remember anything else about the setlist if i was at that show. that's the greatest thing about pearl jam shows...they can play 30 great tunes and blow you away, and still there's going to be somebody that says "i wish they played...." they just have so much, no matter what they give you, you still want more.
  • IdlewildIdlewild Posts: 173
    I thought it was a great show, loved the new song
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  • PontikasPontikas Posts: 210
    It seems to me that lukins.lawyer is upset because of the diarrhea/nutella confusion.

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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,555
    it is a very basic setlist (except for earth)
    but dont be disappointed that you didnt get a rarities/deep cut set

    you pays your money and takes your chances-thats why you need to hit more than one show
    you never know when that gem is going to be played
  • McVencoMcVenco Posts: 14
    I wouldn't call it too basic. Maybe I'm not spoiled by having visited umpteen concerts already, but 2 never before played songs in 1 gig is pretty special if you ask me :)
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