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Rats?? Who is Ben??

vomikus39vomikus39 Posts: 250
edited June 2010 in The Porch
Does anyone know who "Ben" is? At the end of Rats Eddie refers to ben. I can only think of Ben Harper. Questions are always answered on here, u guys are the best. So I will ask if anyone knows the true meaning of life too? Someone must know :)

Thx guys.
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  • keyser_sozekeyser_soze London, England Posts: 205
    vomikus39 wrote:
    Does anyone know who "Ben" is? At the end of Rats Eddie refers to ben. I can only think of Ben Harper. Questions are always answered on here, u guys are the best. So I will ask if anyone knows the true meaning of life too? Someone must know :)

    Thx guys.


    Ben is a reference to the Michael Jackson song "Ben". Eddie is a huge Jackson fan... or was when he was a child at any rate!
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  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?
    man in the mirror!!
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  • Dru_CortezDru_Cortez Posts: 953
    In 1972, a movie named 'Ben' was realeased.
    A social outcast has rats for friends, learns to communicate with them,
    + uses them for personal, sinister, motives.
    In 2003, the movie was remade + renamed 'Willard,'
    after the title character, played by Crispin "Hey McFly!" Glover.
    Ben is the name of the extremely oversized rat that
    Willard befriends.
    Now, I haven't seen either movie, so this is
    most speculation.
    Hopefully helpful, however.
    Cheers.
    'Cause you don't give blood and take it back again.
  • vomikus39vomikus39 Posts: 250
    thx for the replies. Thx for the links too. I'd love to hear PJ do a cover of Man in the Mirror, great song.
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  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    Gmoney wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?
    man in the mirror!!


    I'm sure a tear would drop from my eye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?

    I could see him putting a twist on "she's out of my life"...
    Never, ever, flipping forget
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  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?
    Jackson 5- ABC...123
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?

    PJ covered Someday at Christmas by the J5 on the 04 single. I think thats the closest we will get to a MJ cover.
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  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Gmoney wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?
    man in the mirror!!
    :lol:

    Bad would be better
  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    hell how about a wayne newton cover? ( pearljam is better than mj covers.) just look at the bands they cover.music that matters heart felt! mj has about as much musical inportance than the constrution worker from the village pepole... ( YMCA ANYONE? )
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    patrickrussell wrote:
    hell how about a wayne newton cover? ( pearljam is better than mj covers.) just look at the bands they cover.music that matters heart felt! mj has about as much musical inportance than the constrution worker from the village pepole... ( YMCA ANYONE? )


    WOW! Really?
    Never, ever, flipping forget
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  • YukselYuksel Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 32
    marcos wrote:
    Hmm, what MJ song could Eddie cover in full?

    Beat It :mrgreen:
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  • Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    He just did Going back to Indiana in Noblesville... and then into Rats...

    You can catch Ed say to Jeff in between, something like Let's go Tito... :lol:
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  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    pjtradeking wrote:
    patrickrussell wrote:
    hell how about a wayne newton cover? ( pearljam is better than mj covers.) just look at the bands they cover.music that matters heart felt! mj has about as much musical inportance than the constrution worker from the village pepole... ( YMCA ANYONE? )


    WOW! Really?
    yes! did mj even write & compose his music? NO! just a dancing , singing mouth piece.does a puppet make a sound without a hand up its back?
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  • NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 764
    edited June 2010
    Dru_Cortez wrote:
    In 1972, a movie named 'Ben' was realeased.
    A social outcast has rats for friends, learns to communicate with them,
    + uses them for personal, sinister, motives.
    In 2003, the movie was remade + renamed 'Willard,'
    after the title character, played by Crispin "Hey McFly!" Glover.
    Ben is the name of the extremely oversized rat that
    Willard befriends.
    Now, I haven't seen either movie, so this is
    most speculation.
    Hopefully helpful, however.
    Cheers.

    No - partly correct. Yes, Ben was a 1972 movie, as you aid, but Willard (2003) is a remake of Willard (1971), not of Ben. Two distinct rat movies (Ben was a sequel to Willard). (I have an advantage-- i was in elementary school when those original films were released!)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_(1971_film)
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  • Got GutsGot Guts Posts: 40
    keyser_soze wrote:
    vomikus39 wrote:
    Does anyone know who "Ben" is? At the end of Rats Eddie refers to ben. I can only think of Ben Harper. Questions are always answered on here, u guys are the best. So I will ask if anyone knows the true meaning of life too? Someone must know :)

    Thx guys.


    Ben is a reference to the Michael Jackson song "Ben". Eddie is a huge Jackson fan... or was when he was a child at any rate!

    If this is true then I finally understand why in 94' at the old Chicago Stadium, Eddie says " Michael Jackson is innocent " during Rats. Michael was being accused of child molestation at the time ( one of more to come ). That was an amazing show to be at and I was there. :D Eddie always has is ways of voicing his opinion.
  • Got GutsGot Guts Posts: 40
    Got Guts wrote:
    keyser_soze wrote:
    vomikus39 wrote:
    Does anyone know who "Ben" is? At the end of Rats Eddie refers to ben. I can only think of Ben Harper. Questions are always answered on here, u guys are the best. So I will ask if anyone knows the true meaning of life too? Someone must know :)

    Thx guys.


    Ben is a reference to the Michael Jackson song "Ben". Eddie is a huge Jackson fan... or was when he was a child at any rate!

    If this is true then I finally understand why in 94' at the old Chicago Stadium, Eddie says " Michael Jackson is innocent " during Rats. Michael was being accused of child molestation at the time ( one of more to come ). That was an amazing show to be at and I was there. :D Eddie always has is ways of voicing his opinion.

    I might have the Chicago Stadium show confused with another but I'm positive he said that during Rats and I'm 99.9% sure it was in 94'. The show was broadcast live on the radio and I still might have a copy on cassette.
  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    patrickrussell wrote:
    pjtradeking wrote:
    patrickrussell wrote:
    hell how about a wayne newton cover? ( pearljam is better than mj covers.) just look at the bands they cover.music that matters heart felt! mj has about as much musical inportance than the constrution worker from the village pepole... ( YMCA ANYONE? )


    WOW! Really?
    yes! did mj even write & compose his music? NO! just a dancing , singing mouth piece.does a puppet make a sound without a hand up its back?

    ummmm...ok....guess you told me..... :roll:
    Never, ever, flipping forget
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  • Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    pjtradeking wrote:
    ummmm...ok....guess you told me..... :roll:

    Yes, he did. That he/she is an incorrect boogerhead.

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  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    pjtradeking wrote:
    ummmm...ok....guess you told me..... :roll:

    Yes, he did. That he/she is an incorrect boogerhead.

    http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID
    Pepole can compose music and pepole can have enough money to pay someone else to compose . Then buy and copyright with the name michael jackson.think about it! And not to many shes named patrick .think about that or look it up ( patrick ) proper spelling!
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  • Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    I posted something but I edited it. Not worth it.
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  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    Dude, I'm not an idiot. Just because your screen name is Patrick doesn't necessarily mean you are a male.
    So he did not write or compose. You are not an idiot.you just proved my point. Thankx!
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  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Amazing how a thread can lose it's course
  • Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    patrickrussell wrote:
    Pepole can compose music and pepole can have enough money to pay someone else to compose . Then buy and copyright with the name michael jackson.think about it! And not to many shes named patrick .think about that or look it up ( patrick ) proper spelling!

    That's funny, because you spelled "people" wrong.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    BabaBooey1979 wrote:
    Amazing how a thread can lose it's course

    I guess you can blame this one on me!! Damn, my bad!! :shock:
    Never, ever, flipping forget
    "Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY

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  • Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    patrickrussell wrote:
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    Dude, I'm not an idiot. Just because your screen name is Patrick doesn't necessarily mean you are a male.
    So he did not write or compose. You are not an idiot.you just proved my point. Thankx!

    Look it up, man! He wrote quite a few songs. He wasn't responsible for writing Thriller and Bad, just to name a few, but he was responsible for Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Man In The Mirror. I'm not trying to flame you but you should give credit where credit is due. If you told me that you never tapped your foot or liked any of his songs AT ALL, I would call "shenanigans"...unless you are paralyzed.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    patrickrussell wrote:
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    pjtradeking wrote:
    ummmm...ok....guess you told me..... :roll:

    Yes, he did. That he/she is an incorrect boogerhead.

    http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID
    Pepole can compose music and pepole can have enough money to pay someone else to compose . Then buy and copyright with the name michael jackson.think about it! And not to many shes named patrick .think about that or look it up ( patrick ) proper spelling!

    Man/woman...You are a plethora of knowledge arent you?? Wow.... :roll:
    Never, ever, flipping forget
    "Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY

    My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
  • patrickrussellpatrickrussell Posts: 66
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    patrickrussell wrote:
    Evolution6579 wrote:
    Dude, I'm not an idiot. Just because your screen name is Patrick doesn't necessarily mean you are a male.
    So he did not write or compose. You are not an idiot.you just proved my point. Thankx!

    Look it up, man! He wrote quite a few songs. He wasn't responsible for writing Thriller and Bad, just to name a few, but he was responsible for Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Man In The Mirror. I'm not trying to flame you but you should give credit where credit is due. If you told me that you never tapped your foot or liked any of his songs AT ALL, I would call "shenanigans"...unless you are paralyzed.
    Writing and buying to different things. I have my legs but, i tap my foot to music worth while.
    thefixer
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