blame pearl jam ,not the 10c

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  • In My Dreams
    In My Dreams Posts: 299
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Not only that but even if the entire band has no idea what is going on, they should have buisness managers who should be able to keep tabs on the different parts of the Pearl Jam orginazation. This isn't some garage band that tours in an old van.

    And, with as much as 10c charges for products, I believe they are making a profit.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    In My Dreams wrote:
    And, with as much as 10c charges for products, I believe they are making a profit.


    I was talking about this in another thread, but I am not even sure 10club by itself would have to make a profit. I mean if you look at 10club as a promotional tool for the band 10club might lose money on its own, but in turn its actions might make more money for the band. I mean for example 10club might cost the band $1,000,000 to run, but in turn if it makes the band an extra $5,000,000 in ticket and CD sales by way of getting people more interested than it could be successful even with losing money.

    For another example, if PJ produces posters to put up in CD stores, those posters cost money to make, but if they promote the band and get more people buying CD's then it is safe to say they are a good investment.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I was talking about this in another thread, but I am not even sure 10club by itself would have to make a profit. I mean if you look at 10club as a promotional tool for the band 10club might lose money on its own, but in turn its actions might make more money for the band. I mean for example 10club might cost the band $1,000,000 to run, but in turn if it makes the band an extra $5,000,000 in ticket and CD sales by way of getting people more interested than it could be successful even with losing money.

    For another example, if PJ produces posters to put up in CD stores, those posters cost money to make, but if they promote the band and get more people buying CD's then it is safe to say they are a good investment.


    totally and if the band put some more coin into it
    their would be alott less headaches for everyone


    all this server shit is additional work for the 10c
    they have enough going on now ,,they certainly dont need to be calling banks and whatnot
  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    i never knew this band was so cheap,,its amazing

    and whoever says they're not in it for the coin..... ha



    SPEND SOME CASH FOR THE FANCLUB BOYS

    so they can do their job and not listen to us bitch

    p.s. dont worry im sure their will be enough left for the yearly meetings in hawaii


    yeah cuz its so much easier to place blame right ???

    Blame Pearl Jam ? yeah blame PJ for getting you presale opportunities

    god just give up your membership if you dont like it
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I was talking about this in another thread, but I am not even sure 10club by itself would have to make a profit. I mean if you look at 10club as a promotional tool for the band 10club might lose money on its own, but in turn its actions might make more money for the band. I mean for example 10club might cost the band $1,000,000 to run, but in turn if it makes the band an extra $5,000,000 in ticket and CD sales by way of getting people more interested than it could be successful even with losing money.

    For another example, if PJ produces posters to put up in CD stores, those posters cost money to make, but if they promote the band and get more people buying CD's then it is safe to say they are a good investment.

    I bet Kelly Curtis is fearing for his job after reading your sheer genius ideas!
    :)
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    yeah cuz its so much easier to place blame right ???

    Blame Pearl Jam ? yeah blame PJ for getting you presale opportunities

    god just give up your membership if you dont like it


    What's wrong with trying to make something you like better? I love TV, but when my cable companies does things I don't like I will let them know about it. How is this any different?
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    yeah cuz its so much easier to place blame right ???

    Blame Pearl Jam ? yeah blame PJ for getting you presale opportunities

    god just give up your membership if you dont like it


    again all im saying is pj should put more coin into the fanclub

    they are cutting corners and its stupid

    its their fanclub,, they should put enough money into it
    it certainly is putting enough money into them
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I bet Kelly Curtis is fearing for his job after reading your sheer genius ideas!
    :)


    What ideas? I was just pointing out that a fan club is a promotional tool for the band the same way any other promotion is. It is not like this is a revolutionary idea to anyone. How could anyone not already have this figured out? I certainly hope that the management of a gigantic band like Pearl Jam already does. It is not like having to spend money promote yourself is a totally unheard of idea.
  • GlorifiedGEE
    GlorifiedGEE Posts: 169
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    yeah cuz its so much easier to place blame right ???

    Blame Pearl Jam ? yeah blame PJ for getting you presale opportunities

    god just give up your membership if you dont like it

    Well said. This is a really cool opportunity and unfortunately he is not playing huge venues. I think Santa Cruz has a max occupancy of 2200. I'm grateful that 10c gives us a chance to pre-order tickets. Not every band has the ability to do this and they have always been good to the fans.

    I understand everyones frustrations with the servers crashing and all we can ask is that next time they anticipate that kind of traffic and have extra server space. Thank you PJ and 10c. Looking forward to seeing you again soon Eddie!
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  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    again all im saying is pj should put more coin into the fanclub

    they are cutting corners and its stupid

    its their fanclub,, they should put enough money into it
    it certainly is putting enough money into them


    fair enough but putting blame pearl jam in the thread title its juvenile and makes you sound like a spoiled elitist
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    fair enough but putting blame pearl jam in the thread title its juvenile and makes you sound like a spoiled elitist


    no it doesnt


    im just saying dont blame the 10c when they have limited tools to work with

    if pj coughed up the dough they would have better resources

    does anyone think they want this to happen? they know their servers suck so why not fix it? why ?cause the band isnt putting more money into it

    they have this huge server in another state ,but apparantly its not enough
  • L1quid
    L1quid Posts: 75
    i'm sure pearl jam is purposefully witholding funds from their own fan club, rather than just not being aware that their servers take a shit once every 3-4 months.

    you guys give the band and the 10c management way too little credit. course, all of you know what it takes to run such things so your anger is more like constructive criticism from people with knowledgeable opinions, rather than the childish whining of people who missed out on the first of two (or more) pre-sales.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    L1quid wrote:
    i'm sure pearl jam is purposefully witholding funds from their own fan club, rather than just not being aware that their servers take a shit once every 3-4 months.

    you guys give the band and the 10c management way too little credit. course, all of you know what it takes to run such things so your anger is more like constructive criticism from people with knowledgeable opinions, rather than the childish whining of people who missed out on the first of two (or more) pre-sales.

    believe it or not they are being tight with their fanclub
    i found it hard to believe also ... but it is the case
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,844
    it's KELLY'S fault really ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • gtrplyr
    gtrplyr Posts: 115
    I find this amazing because NONE OF US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.

    You know JACK SHIT...yet you throw blame around like you know what you're talking about.

    You know absolutely NOTHING about what is really going on or who is responsible.

    fucking idiots.
  • vlade
    vlade Posts: 12
    gtrplyr wrote:
    I find this amazing because NONE OF US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.

    You know JACK SHIT...yet you throw blame around like you know what you're talking about.

    You know absolutely NOTHING about what is really going on or who is responsible.

    fucking idiots.

    Well said, frustration can do crazy things
  • L1quid
    L1quid Posts: 75
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    believe it or not they are being tight with their fanclub
    i found it hard to believe also ... but it is the case
    I wonder if it's hard to put out the magazine and the xmas single on $15/year

    They probably have like $12.50 leftover per fan club member EVERY YEAR.
  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    gtrplyr wrote:
    I find this amazing because NONE OF US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.

    You know JACK SHIT...yet you throw blame around like you know what you're talking about.

    You know absolutely NOTHING about what is really going on or who is responsible.

    fucking idiots.


    exactly , except your last line is a little harsh. up until now ive been staying out of this too.
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  • gtrplyr
    gtrplyr Posts: 115
    All of a sudden everyone takes the high moral ground and starts blaming the band for withholding money from the fan club.

    Where is there any proof of that? Do you think Eddie writes the paycheck's out of his bank account?

    Give me a break. The band has less to do with it monetarily than you think.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    gtrplyr wrote:
    I find this amazing because NONE OF US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.

    You know JACK SHIT...yet you throw blame around like you know what you're talking about.

    You know absolutely NOTHING about what is really going on or who is responsible.

    fucking idiots.



    ok dokey

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