Mexican President issues demands on our Congress
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tonifig8 wrote:unsung wrote:And yes I would be livid if they were granted amnesty. It isn't just the mexicans either, I am against all illegal immigration. Mexicans just are the majority.
Amnesty doesn't work. It has been done before and each time the group has been larger and larger. It needs to stop.
So if it goes through will you be accepting of the new citizens? I think that is the direction we are headed. I hope something of that nature is passed..... as long as there are some strict conditions, of course.... I am for amnesty.
Remember when Reagan granted amnesty to over 3 million illegal immigrants? What a President huh?
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i'm still waiting for an answer as to how was his address to congress was "making demands"....i have read several articles on this today and none have given the impression that he was "making demands" of any sort...."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:i'm still waiting for an answer as to how was his address to congress was "making demands"....i have read several articles on this today and none have given the impression that he was "making demands" of any sort....
I guess US Presidents never go to other countries and speak before their governments making "demands".
They do sometimes.
Much of the time it's easier to bomb the shit out of them if their "demands" aren't met.0 -
Dirtie_Frank wrote:tonifig8 wrote:Dirtie_Frank wrote:Pot this is kettle you are black over.
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
So dirti_frank how would you feel if these criminals were granted citizenship?
The majority of the people who were against Obama-care are still against it and they still speak very strongly against it.....
If these criminals were granted citizenship would you continue to fight to take away there citizenship? Would you continue to think these new citizens were still criminals? How would you tell the difference between the older citizens and the new ones?
What criminals I just find it amazing that Mexican law is quite similar to the new Arizona law and the mexican president condones ours.
Not anymore according to Calderon
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wolf-blitzer ... tion-laws/
Wolf Blitzer Puts President Calderón On The Defensive Over Mexico’s Immigration Laws
by Frances Martel | 3:33 pm, May 20th, 2010
After appearing before Congress and attacking Arizona’s new illegal immigration law, Mexican president Felipe Calderón appeared on CNN to talk shop with Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer, rather surprisingly, turned the tables on the president, opting to ask him instead about his country’s immigration laws, and whether they were just as strict (if not stricter) than Arizona’s. Calderón admitted that laws were stringent in the past but clarified that it is currently not illegal to be undocumented in Mexico.
Citing a Washington Times article explaining Mexican immigration laws that incriminated those who willfully participated in illegal immigration or helped illegal immigrants, Blitzer asked President Calderón to contrast those laws with Arizona’s. Calderón replied that, while the Times assessment used to be true, it is no longer, and immigration cannot be illegal in Mexico. “Of course, on the border, we are asking people ‘Who are you?’” explained Calderón, and “Once they are inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law, but any means immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico… if someone does that, we find them and sending [sic] them back.”
In response to that, Blitzer noted that many in the US do not know that Mexico does not criminalize illegal immigration, and reference the older, harsher laws to argue that border states are only trying to do what Mexico does in its lower half, as well. Calderón accepted the criticism, and said he took it into account when discussing immigration laws:
"That is a very powerful argument, but that is one of the reasons why we are trying to change our policies. And let me be frank, Wolf. In the past, Mexican authorities were, in an unfortunate way, in the treatment for immigrants. But we are changing the policies, we changed already the law, and that is different today. We are trying to write a new story, talking about immigrants, especially coming from Central American countries."My whole life
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Sorry if I don't believe El Presidente considering his police force is noted to be extremely corrupt and is known for their extorsion activities.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487gimmesometruth27 wrote:i'm still waiting for an answer as to how was his address to congress was "making demands"....i have read several articles on this today and none have given the impression that he was "making demands" of any sort....
I cited his view on us reinstating the so called "assault weapons" ban.0 -
that is not issuing a demand....unsung wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:i'm still waiting for an answer as to how was his address to congress was "making demands"....i have read several articles on this today and none have given the impression that he was "making demands" of any sort....
I cited his view on us reinstating the so called "assault weapons" ban."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Smellyman wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:i'm still waiting for an answer as to how was his address to congress was "making demands"....i have read several articles on this today and none have given the impression that he was "making demands" of any sort....
I guess US Presidents never go to other countries and speak before their governments making "demands".
They do sometimes.
Much of the time it's easier to bomb the shit out of them if their "demands" aren't met.
the difference is we're always right, duuuuuuuuuuh :roll:don't compete; coexist
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unsung wrote:Of course he wants reform, that is 12 million+ poor he won't have to worry about. And of course Obama agrees with him.
Of course...
...It turns out that the Obama administration is much more aggressive about deportations than its predecessor...
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