Mexican President issues demands on our Congress
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/20/ ... tml?hpt=T2
He wants the reform for illegal aliens and wants us to reinstitute the so-called "assault weapons" ban. Of course he wants reform, that is 12 million+ poor he won't have to worry about. And of course Obama agrees with him.
He wants the reform for illegal aliens and wants us to reinstitute the so-called "assault weapons" ban. Of course he wants reform, that is 12 million+ poor he won't have to worry about. And of course Obama agrees with him.
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This guy needs to look in the mirror, if he wants to make demands on our congress and our country why don't they just ask for statehood. Wouldn't that solve all the problems. We could send in the national guard to deal with the cartels and the "illegals" would no longer be illegal. Problem solved.
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Washington (CNN) -- Mexican President Felipe Calderon asked members of the U.S. Congress on Thursday to reinstate a ban on assault weapons to help clamp down on violence in both Mexico and the United States.
During his speech Thursday to Congress, Calderon said the challenge to Mexican security has "roots on both sides of the border," including the high demand for drugs in the United States.
Tackling other politically sensitive issues such as immigration, the Mexican leader said, "I strongly disagree with the recently adopted law in Arizona. It is a law that not only ignores a reality that cannot be erased by decree" but also introduces the "terrible idea" that racial profiling is acceptable.
Calderon on Wednesday had characterized the Arizona law as discriminatory.
The measure, which will allow law enforcement officers to ask for proof of legal residency of anyone who is being investigated for a crime or possible legal infraction, has drawn widespread criticism in Mexico.
Critics contend, among other things, that the law will lead to racial profiling against Hispanic residents.
The Mexican government rejects efforts "to criminalize migration so that people [who] work and provide things to this nation will be treated as criminals," Calderon said in a briefing to reporters on Wednesday, alongside President Barack Obama. "We oppose firmly" the Arizona law, which is "partial and discriminatory."
A Mexican official familiar with arrangements for Calderon's visit cautioned that it would be wrong to let the controversy over Arizona's law overwhelm the rest of the visit.
"It will not define the visit or the relationship," the Mexican official said. "The U.S.-Mexican relationship is much more rich and diverse than one issue."
A senior Obama administration official, however, acknowledged that "this is an issue that has resonated in Mexico [and] is of deep concern to the Mexican government."
The two countries also face other common challenges, including climate change and organized crime -- a rising threat to border stability, Calderon said Wednesday.
Drug violence claimed 6,500 lives in Mexico last year. About 90 percent of the cocaine that is smuggled into the United States moves through Mexico, which is also a gateway for marijuana and other illegal drugs.
Moving in the other direction, Mexican authorities in recent years have seized 45,000 weapons that could be traced to the United States.
But what ultimately "turns us into good neighbors" is a common belief in "freedom, justice and democracy," Calderon said.
Obama on Wednesday noted that his administration is screening 100 percent of southbound rail cargo. He also cited new initiatives to cut U.S. demand for illegal drugs.
"As your partner, we'll give you the support you need to prevail ... against the drug cartels that have unleashed horrific violence in so many communities," Obama told Calderon.
Obama also ticked through a list of items he said the two leaders had agreed upon during their meeting. On the economy, he said, they had agreed to streamline regulations while strengthening protection of intellectual property.
To facilitate trade, they had reaffirmed a "commitment to a 21st-century border that is modern, secure and efficient."
He also pledged to expand joint initiatives promoting renewable energy and "smart grid" technology.
Obama also noted Mexico's current seat on the U.N. Security Council, highlighting the two countries' agreement on possible sanctions against Iran to stop Tehran's nuclear program.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
That's what I thought too.. I read the article expecting something much more based on the thread title.
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Mexican drug kingpin: "Oh shit ... Assaults rifles are illegal in the US now. I am going to stop killing the competition and doing battle with the authorities here in Mexico. Its time to turn over a new leaf." WTF? There's no real connection there. There's a brisk arms trade across the border, which is already an illegal enterprise fueled by demand for illegal goods, just like the drug trade. Making weapons illegal will work about as well as making drugs illegal ... Which is to say, not at all.
I do agree with his concerns around Arizona's law.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05 ... -congress/
But ultimately it seemed as though he was blaming the US for the border violence and instead of creating a place where a mexican citizen can flourish with hard work, he has allowed corruption and drug cartels to permiate the government. I don't know, it just seems like he is passing the buck instead of taking resposibility. And again he mischaracterized a law by saying it promotes racial profiling even though it has wording in the bill that specifically prohibits that. Why doesn't he stand up and say "this is my country, I am proud of it and I am will do my best to make a place that hard-working and proud people will not want to leave." But no, he just says, if you guys didn't want drugs we wouldn't have a problem here. He says we need to prevent weapons from crossing the border south, even though he seemingly has no cares in the world about who travels north.
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One time a long while back I asked someone on here why they were so quick to call the US on bad behavior, while never mentioning the same sorts of things or worse that were happening in other parts of the world. They said something to the effect of "we need to clean up our own backyard before pointing fingers". Fair enough. Calderon should follow the same advice, then.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Do you have a problem with the Mexican president speaking in front of congress? Just wondering....seems like you're bothered by it.
Unsung,
how would you feel if the 12 million illegal immigrants in this country were granted citizenship? I know one of your biggest concerns is immigration, and you want illegals out! But if they were to become citizens how would you treat them? Would you look down on all hispanic looking people? Because you obviously don't want them in your country...... Answer me that question would please.
Unsung,
give me your honest response? Obviously you would be pissed because they gained citizenship, and now 12 million hispanics are now going to be on welfare and other Government services....
How would you distinguish the Hispanics that were already citizens from the hispanics that just became citizens? Or would they all simply be the same people: Dirty, lazy, freeloading, etc..etc.. Mexicans?
represent your position- your conservative values.... be honest.
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
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Because everyone who disagrees with you is a racist :roll: .
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So dirti_frank how would you feel if these criminals were granted citizenship?
The majority of the people who were against Obama-care are still against it and they still speak very strongly against it.....
If these criminals were granted citizenship would you continue to fight to take away there citizenship? Would you continue to think these new citizens were still criminals? How would you tell the difference between the older citizens and the new ones?
not everyone or at least it depends on the subject.....
What criminals I just find it amazing that Mexican law is quite similar to the new Arizona law and the mexican president condones ours.
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Amnesty doesn't work. It has been done before and each time the group has been larger and larger. It needs to stop.
So if it goes through will you be accepting of the new citizens? I think that is the direction we are headed. I hope something of that nature is passed..... as long as there are some strict conditions, of course.... I am for amnesty.
Remember when Reagan granted amnesty to over 3 million illegal immigrants? What a President huh?
Before they granted amnesty they need to secure the boarders or else it would just keep getting worse.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I guess US Presidents never go to other countries and speak before their governments making "demands".
They do sometimes.
Much of the time it's easier to bomb the shit out of them if their "demands" aren't met.
Not anymore according to Calderon
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wolf-blitzer ... tion-laws/
Wolf Blitzer Puts President Calderón On The Defensive Over Mexico’s Immigration Laws
by Frances Martel | 3:33 pm, May 20th, 2010
After appearing before Congress and attacking Arizona’s new illegal immigration law, Mexican president Felipe Calderón appeared on CNN to talk shop with Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer, rather surprisingly, turned the tables on the president, opting to ask him instead about his country’s immigration laws, and whether they were just as strict (if not stricter) than Arizona’s. Calderón admitted that laws were stringent in the past but clarified that it is currently not illegal to be undocumented in Mexico.
Citing a Washington Times article explaining Mexican immigration laws that incriminated those who willfully participated in illegal immigration or helped illegal immigrants, Blitzer asked President Calderón to contrast those laws with Arizona’s. Calderón replied that, while the Times assessment used to be true, it is no longer, and immigration cannot be illegal in Mexico. “Of course, on the border, we are asking people ‘Who are you?’” explained Calderón, and “Once they are inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law, but any means immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico… if someone does that, we find them and sending [sic] them back.”
In response to that, Blitzer noted that many in the US do not know that Mexico does not criminalize illegal immigration, and reference the older, harsher laws to argue that border states are only trying to do what Mexico does in its lower half, as well. Calderón accepted the criticism, and said he took it into account when discussing immigration laws:
"That is a very powerful argument, but that is one of the reasons why we are trying to change our policies. And let me be frank, Wolf. In the past, Mexican authorities were, in an unfortunate way, in the treatment for immigrants. But we are changing the policies, we changed already the law, and that is different today. We are trying to write a new story, talking about immigrants, especially coming from Central American countries."
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I cited his view on us reinstating the so called "assault weapons" ban.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
the difference is we're always right, duuuuuuuuuuh :roll:
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...It turns out that the Obama administration is much more aggressive about deportations than its predecessor...
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