i just had a terrible thought about Bonnaroo...

Strangest Tribe wrote:

Then it doesn't sound like it's for you. I'd stay at home, just like those that don't like festivals, hippies, the heat, the location, camping out, etc etc etc....

Damn this is enough of these righteous threads...

totally, you just cant please everyone all the time

chromiam wrote:

guess that free speech thing you talk about doesn't extend to message boards....

you know oddly enough it doesnt, you have to adhere to a pretty strict set of guidelines when posting on a board and the mods can delete what you say which i believe is called ... Censorship

Not agreeing or disagreeing either way... just saying

MrSmith wrote:

thats what i'm trying to figure out, genius. if i should go.


message boards are funny. I hope I didnt make anyone cry.

Also, if I do go, could I get some help luggin my weight bench to TN?

Thanks for the compliment, nothing personal was meant towards you, just should not be too hard to figure out. They will sing and Eddie will say political things and anti-war songs, so if it is really bothering you then maybe you should not go.

I cant go because I can't afford it, but I would love a whole show of political anti-war stuff, as for now I have to suffice with my burned CD's of those songs.

Röeghmann wrote:

I´m not going to Boon. and I´m not even american, but I would love them to be political if it could help getting the Obama in the white house (or Hillary - second best). The world needs it. And especially you guys need it!

I really whised i could go.

Amen to that....I will no doubt vote for Obama


Yes We Can

umm you say its a festival full of hippies and then worry that eds gonna be preachy? whos more liberal than hippies? ed has no reason to preach... besides, whatever the outcome of this election may be there is gonna be a positive change for this country because bush is gone... i wouldnt worry about it... with them not having played live in awhile either i think they will all be focusing on rocking out for as long as possibly... probably very little talk of any nature

chromiam wrote:

I would tend to disagree with this... unless there is proof (other than Storytellers) that Betterman is a politcal song.

Of course they were politcal from Day 1!! Why do people equate "political" with songs that refer blantantly to war, the government or the governance of our world?!

The first album contained a song about a girl being locked away for smoking pot, a song about the homeless, a song about an alienated teenager killing himself in front of his class at school...hell, even an autobiographical song about a disaffected kid (EV) from a broken family...

ALL of these songs touch on political themes! They are all commentaries on the society we live in and not separate, isolated issues!!

I still love Pearl Jam because they still make these commentaries...it's just that the stakes have changed. If you don't like it, you've been listening to the wrong band all along. And, as someone else pointed out last week, if you have a problem with topical lyrics, go listen to Nickelback rehash whatever it is that they sing about...

DP

chromiam wrote:

Speaking on or about social and sociological issues does not make one political!!!! It's makes you socially conscience and active but not political. They are two different things.

I love how people love to interchange the two.

But to me, Pearl Jam's music (and the "rants" at live shows) have always been about making people aware of the issues and exercising their right to act, no matter how they feel...that, to me, is political!

It's what separates a band that simply writes about a sociological issue here and there and a band that is active, politically. The fact they have commented on those issues, acted to try to change them, and encouraged others to participate is what makes them political.

DP

Kel Varnsen wrote:

That is sort of how I see it. I mean:

Bringing up a variety of social issues that people might not be aware of= Interesting.

Constantly reminding people, especailly people who already know, over and over that you hate Bush= Boring.

Fair enough, but it's not just Bush--it's the apathy people have toward the system. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and people--human beings--on both sides are still getting slaughtered "over there."

I just think people are frustrated, PJ included, because while people claim to "already know," nobody seems to be doing anything to fix the problem! What gives?!

MrSmith wrote:

its election year. playing in the south. with hippies. This could be the most annoyingly political PJ show ever. I can usually just tune out Ed's drunken rants against the government, but this might be too much to handle.

they will probably play "No More War" (cringe), Bushleaguer is probably automatic.

hell they might even break out "Rock Around Barack", possibly the most embarassing song by PJ ever. Wow, i actually want Obama to lose now so i know this isnt a possiblity.

I really dont know if i want to see this. Could be a great oppurtunity to get my non Pearl Jam friends to see a PJ show, but if its gonna suck I would rather not expose them to it... hmmm i'm not sure i want to go.


(edit: i think some are misunderstanding me. its not so much the political rants, but the possiblity of a show filled with shitty protest songs.)

i don't like the rants...but not hard to tune out...it's who he is and always has been...

but i do not want to hear that shit song No More War live ever again....

aweful.