Why are posters and vinyl so coveted?

stevieraveon
stevieraveon Posts: 413
edited January 2008 in The Porch
First of all, I'm just asking, I'm not putting down the people who want these so bad...I'm generally curious.

Why is everyone so into posters and vinyl (or at least why is the monetary value so obscene...I know, supply/demand will be the answer probably...but why the demand?)

I understand wanting a poster for a show you were at, or maybe one of your favorite bootlegs. Why the desire for other posters...Is it the coolness of the artwork, loyalty to the artist, or just to say you have something rare?

Also for vinyl, what's the appeal...especially all the posts I've seen of "Still in wrapper". What's the point of music if it's not being listened to? Do any of the owners have a record player. Has "Spin the Black Circle" put a spell over everyone?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    posters - limited prints, some signed

    vinyl - limited, in plastic cuz they want to make a fortune on ebay or no turntable....

    :)
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    stevieraveon wrote:
    Also for vinyl, what's the appeal...especially all the posts I've seen of "Still in wrapper". What's the point of music if it's not being listened to? Do any of the owners have a record player. Has "Spin the Black Circle" put a spell over everyone?
    Vinyl sounds better (especially with headphones). I like them better than CDs because it stresses listening to great albums rather than just great songs. CDs, you can skip around so that kinda kills that concept which is why I'm selective with my vinyl. I guess they are of collectors value to those who keep them wrapped up, which I get.

    I have a Benaroya still wrapped, but that's because I'm afraid some Final Destination shit will happen once I do open it and it'll get scuffed or broken :o
  • stevieraveon
    stevieraveon Posts: 413
    danny72688 wrote:
    I like them better than CDs because it stresses listening to great albums rather than just great songs.

    Been a while since I've used a record player, but can't you just as easily lift the needle and put it to the next track? (IIRC you can visually see the lines where the next song begins, or is this not the case.....I think Michael Jackson "Bad" was the last record I had, lol)
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    stevieraveon wrote:
    Been a while since I've used a record player, but can't you just as easily lift the needle and put it to the next track? (IIRC you can visually see the lines where the next song begins, or is this not the case.....I think Michael Jackson "Bad" was the last record I had, lol)
    You can, but it still requires more work than pushing a button.
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  • Lizardking
    Lizardking Posts: 936
    It is good to have a hobby, some have drinking, hookers, or maybe even drugs.

    I gave up most of the drugs, but hobbies are fun!!
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    stevieraveon wrote:
    Been a while since I've used a record player, but can't you just as easily lift the needle and put it to the next track? (IIRC you can visually see the lines where the next song begins, or is this not the case.....I think Michael Jackson "Bad" was the last record I had, lol)
    Yeah I guess you can. But that's more work than I want to do haha.... Plus I've always loved the "intermission" where you have to flip the record. Completely different feel than playing it all the way through.

    EDIT: Yeah what keeponrockin said :cool:
  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    stevieraveon wrote:
    First of all, I'm just asking, I'm not putting down the people who want these so bad...I'm generally curious.

    Why is everyone so into posters and vinyl (or at least why is the monetary value so obscene...I know, supply/demand will be the answer probably...but why the demand?)

    I understand wanting a poster for a show you were at, or maybe one of your favorite bootlegs. Why the desire for other posters...Is it the coolness of the artwork, loyalty to the artist, or just to say you have something rare?

    Also for vinyl, what's the appeal...especially all the posts I've seen of "Still in wrapper". What's the point of music if it's not being listened to? Do any of the owners have a record player. Has "Spin the Black Circle" put a spell over everyone?

    For me, the posters besides just a cool memory of the show, are art. I love all kinds of art, but mostly rock posters and wildlife. I just love looking at them and really appreciate the work. As for the vinyl, it's almost a retro thing for me as I'm really old. We got rid of most of our old lp's and now kind of regret it as they do sound better. Yes, they are a hassle, but it's fun to collect just a few of our favorite band. :)
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  • Smarter_Than_U
    Smarter_Than_U Posts: 515
    They fulfill a basic need in humans to hunt and gather. And given (a) the fact that man no longer hunts and gathers food, shelter, etc. and (b) Westerners have an unreal amount of resources--we (i.e., many people who frequent this board) hunt and gather pearl jam merchandise. Given these realities and also the fact that these items are cool looking, limited edition, sound better than CDs, etc. makes collecting them almost a sport for those involved. Like any sport, there are varying degrees of intesity displayed by the players. That's my $.02.
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  • edvedder3779
    edvedder3779 Posts: 65
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    They fulfill a basic need in humans to hunt and gather. And given (a) the fact that man no longer hunts and gathers food, shelter, etc. and (b) Westerners have an unreal amount of resources--we (i.e., many people who frequent this board) hunt and gather pearl jam merchandise. Given these realities and also the fact that these items are cool looking, limited edition, sound better than CDs, etc. makes collecting them almost a sport for those involved. Like any sport, there are varying degrees of intesity displayed by the players. That's my $.02.

    Daaaaaaamn, Smarter_than_u got all metaphysical and $hit. :D
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  • Lizardking
    Lizardking Posts: 936
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    They fulfill a basic need in humans to hunt and gather. And given (a) the fact that man no longer hunts and gathers food, shelter, etc. and (b) Westerners have an unreal amount of resources--we (i.e., many people who frequent this board) hunt and gather pearl jam merchandise. Given these realities and also the fact that these items are cool looking, limited edition, sound better than CDs, etc. makes collecting them almost a sport for those involved. Like any sport, there are varying degrees of intesity displayed by the players. That's my $.02.

    You might be the smartest person in DC!!!
    I think you hit it on the head.
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  • stevieraveon
    stevieraveon Posts: 413
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    They fulfill a basic need in humans to hunt and gather. And given (a) the fact that man no longer hunts and gathers food, shelter, etc. and (b) Westerners have an unreal amount of resources--we (i.e., many people who frequent this board) hunt and gather pearl jam merchandise. Given these realities and also the fact that these items are cool looking, limited edition, sound better than CDs, etc. makes collecting them almost a sport for those involved. Like any sport, there are varying degrees of intesity displayed by the players. That's my $.02.

    Yeah, that is a very good answer.
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  • Yellow Bedwetter
    Yellow Bedwetter NYC Posts: 2,832
    i think the posters need to be framed and the vinyls need to be taken out of the shrinkwrap and PLAYED!!
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    i've never understood the hype for posters. Sure some are cool and all but i dont own one and i'm cool with that.

    I guess everyone has hobbies and likes to collect things though so each their own :)
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  • Born2Jam
    Born2Jam Posts: 255
    There's a difference between having a 'hobby' and being a 'collector' of something.
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  • Lovett-or-Leavett
    Lovett-or-Leavett Posts: 178
    Because they are great converstation piece and the work Klausen does is truly great, Ames not so much
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  • Mine
    Mine Posts: 556
    Spin the black circle. Vinyl is great, i love the sound, i love the fact that is big. I hope they come back in the goods section.
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  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,224
    I also have never understood the fascination with posters or vinyl. But, who am I to judge what other people like?

    Well, I can maybe understand the vinyl for those that actually listen to them, even though it seems that CDs are easier and less hassle.
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    I love rock posters of all kinds, not just PJ.

    I also collect Widespread Panic, Black Crowes, Grateful Dead, any posters from the Fillmore in S.F., and local shows that I attend.

    I enjoy the art, the history of the venues, and the quality of that particular tour.

    It's a hobby that I enjoy.
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  • Smarter_Than_U
    Smarter_Than_U Posts: 515
    thanks for the positive feedback! another basic human need is to be complimented --so thanks for helping fulfill that =)
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  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    Born2Jam wrote:
    There's a difference between having a 'hobby' and being a 'collector' of something.


    the hobby is the act of collecting.

    Throwing big money just to buy a rare vinyl off ebay is "collecting"... spending a saturday afternoon going from record store to record store to find something cool is a hobby.

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