Something Positive coming out of AZ - What to do??

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Huh? What the f does the economy...the war..or the environment have to do with illegal immigration? Well, the economy and illegal immigration are mixed, but I'm confused with the rest.

    As I've said in the other thread and this thread actually, companies hiring illegal workers is part of the problem. What I am saying is that AZ just got fed up enough that the fed isn't actually enforcing their own laws so they took the matter into their own hands. Of course, they really screwed it up to the other side of the spectrum, but it's not a surprise that a border state did something like this due to the blind eye from the feds.

    It would be the same if the feds were ignoring environmental issues to such a level that the state came in and made their won laws...oh wait...like CA has done.

    it has everything to do with it (less the environment because people don't really care about it) because when things are shitty such as they are now - the people in power need an excuse ...

    i hear what you are saying and i'm telling you it has nothing to do with the problem of illegal workers ... show me one credible objective source that says illegal aliens in america is a problem ... everyone is focused on the economy now and my point is these republicans are trying to blame the economy on illegal workers when in fact they are not the problem ...

    ultimately, the economy is crux of the issue ... not people working illegally ...
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    Cincy... I think you left out an important part of your analogy. I think it would be like if the state created it's own law to protect the environment... but it was aimed at the individual people who don't recycle rather than the corporations who are polluting... and it allowed the cops to check the trash of anyone who didn't look like a tree-hugger for violations.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    scb wrote:
    Cincy... I think you left out an important part of your analogy. I think it would be like if the state created it's own law to protect the environment... but it was aimed at the individual people who don't recycle rather than the corporations who are polluting... and it allowed the cops to check the trash of anyone who didn't look like a tree-hugger for violations.


    That is a valid point...like I said, the AZ law goes way far to the other side of the spectrum vs. the fed's blind eye. It's a terrible law. Not arguing that at all. But one of the main reasons this terrible law is in place is because the feds didn't enforce the laws they already had in place. If they had been, there would have been no need for, and no public support for, a law like they have in AZ.
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Cincy... I think you left out an important part of your analogy. I think it would be like if the state created it's own law to protect the environment... but it was aimed at the individual people who don't recycle rather than the corporations who are polluting... and it allowed the cops to check the trash of anyone who didn't look like a tree-hugger for violations.


    That is a valid point...like I said, the AZ law goes way far to the other side of the spectrum vs. the fed's blind eye. It's a terrible law. Not arguing that at all. But one of the main reasons this terrible law is in place is because the feds didn't enforce the laws they already had in place. If they had been, there would have been no need for, and no public support for, a law like they have in AZ.

    That's absolutely no excuse to enact a law that will violate the rights of minorities.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    scb wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Cincy... I think you left out an important part of your analogy. I think it would be like if the state created it's own law to protect the environment... but it was aimed at the individual people who don't recycle rather than the corporations who are polluting... and it allowed the cops to check the trash of anyone who didn't look like a tree-hugger for violations.


    That is a valid point...like I said, the AZ law goes way far to the other side of the spectrum vs. the fed's blind eye. It's a terrible law. Not arguing that at all. But one of the main reasons this terrible law is in place is because the feds didn't enforce the laws they already had in place. If they had been, there would have been no need for, and no public support for, a law like they have in AZ.

    That's absolutely no excuse to enact a law that will violate the rights of minorities.


    Didn't say it was. Please show me where I did.
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    scb wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That is a valid point...like I said, the AZ law goes way far to the other side of the spectrum vs. the fed's blind eye. It's a terrible law. Not arguing that at all. But one of the main reasons this terrible law is in place is because the feds didn't enforce the laws they already had in place. If they had been, there would have been no need for, and no public support for, a law like they have in AZ.

    That's absolutely no excuse to enact a law that will violate the rights of minorities.


    Didn't say it was. Please show me where I did.

    Didn't say you said it was. Please show me where I did. ;) Though if you're not trying to defend their reasoning I have no idea what your point is.

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