obama is a monkey.. racism in the banana state

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    So basically you thinks it's more offensive because it could have some racial tone to it even though it's a not really a well thought-out comment? Would you be as upset perhaps if some other med student said Obama is a stupid mother f'er? Is this not offensive or perhaps you could just as easily say he's saying this because he's racist or doesn't like black people? My point is, how much of all this is really just the reader/society applying their pre-conceived notions of morality towards a comment which could be taken in various ways?
    catefrances wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Sounds a bit like racial over-sensitivity to me. Do you honestly think the person making the comments put half as much thought or effort into it as you are critiquing the comment? I think it's very doubtful.

    clearly he didnt. if he had he wouldnt have said what he said. and that is my point.
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  • catefrances
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  • Starfall
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    Godfather. wrote:
    comidians do this kind of humor all the time..comidians of all color do it and it's just that ....a freakin joke !
    and everybody laughs.

    Godfather.

    This wasn't a comedic venue. This guy was a representative of an established Australian political party, and he compared the President of the United States to a monkey - any thinking person would immediately see the racist aspect of it, and this guy was guilty of either outright racism or extremely poor judgment. In either event, I don't blame the Liberals for considering expulsion.

    Besides, as the later article stated:
    Young LNP Queensland president Rod Schneider says Mr Sowden's comments are not the views of the Young Liberals and he welcomes the LNP's move to expel him from the party.
    He says this was the latest in a "long line of indiscretions" from Mr Sowden.

    Also note for American readers - in Australia, despite the term "Liberal", the LNP is actually the equivalent of the American Republican Party.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Actually if you read one of those articles, it clearly states he made these comments from his own personal twitter account - but the political group is dismissing him because of how it reflects on them. Doesn't make it any better or worse, but he wasn't making any comments on behalf or in representation of this group of which he was a member.
    Starfall wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    comidians do this kind of humor all the time..comidians of all color do it and it's just that ....a freakin joke !
    and everybody laughs.

    Godfather.

    This wasn't a comedic venue. This guy was a representative of an established Australian political party, and he compared the President of the United States to a monkey - any thinking person would immediately see the racist aspect of it, and this guy was guilty of either outright racism or extremely poor judgment. In either event, I don't blame the Liberals for considering expulsion.

    Besides, as the later article stated:
    Young LNP Queensland president Rod Schneider says Mr Sowden's comments are not the views of the Young Liberals and he welcomes the LNP's move to expel him from the party.
    He says this was the latest in a "long line of indiscretions" from Mr Sowden.

    Also note for American readers - in Australia, despite the term "Liberal", the LNP is actually the equivalent of the American Republican Party.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    this guy compared obama to a monkey and that's racist ? I remember Bush being compared to a monkey and nobody screamed racism...lets see.. republican's and dem's..elephants and ass's ?....I smell a racism issue here :lol: .......so ez a caveman can do it. :shock:
    anybody ever heard the term "a monkey fu**ing a football" ? as far as I know it had nothing to do with color
    it simply meant that person did not know how to do their job (acting funny like a monkey).
    in all honesty I missed the tweeter thing did he say obama looked like a monkey because he is black ?
    or did he say a monkey could do a better job as president ?
    I am aginst racism and we raise our son the same way "people are people" but this crap has got so out of hand that people have to pick their words carefully as not to offend somebody else, as I said before MOVE ON !
    life is just too short to deal with this stuff.

    Godfather.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Except that there's a long history of black people being referred to as monkeys, apes, or other subhuman species, and not just by American racists.
    This isn't just some random thing.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Starfall wrote:
    Except that there's a long history of black people being referred to as monkeys, apes, or other subhuman species, and not just by American racists.
    This isn't just some random thing.

    and it will never go away as long people react the way they are now, all this got me thinking..my wife is 50% filipino and 50% german but looks filipino for the most part and in 20+ years I have never heard her speak of or refer to anybody in a racist manor,in our house there is no racism we are all just people trying to get by,I'm know that it's out there but why subscribe to it or help to keep it alive with forums and other outlets, it just baffles me.

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Isn't it ironic that all this racism and black people being referred to as monkeys is merely a failure of humans to evolve mentally? Or how about the fact, that most people in the our nation have no real correlation to the terrible racism that truly existed in which their ancestors had to endure. Which is exactly why I keep saying we have become an overly sensitive society. Yes there is racism and much to still fix, but people saying it now, more times than not have never felt, seen or experienced such in the real true forms it once existed. So who cares about some jackass making a twitter comment? Everyone has thin skin, and feels their particular race, culture, minority or religion has to be represented, embellished and appreciated by everyone and if anyone says anything otherwise, it's discriminatory and outrageous. It's really a pathetic manner of self-identifying one's self. No one in America is truly an American... and until people get past that, we'll always be a mush-mash of people who have race issues and yes even from a stupid twitter comment.
    Starfall wrote:
    Except that there's a long history of black people being referred to as monkeys, apes, or other subhuman species, and not just by American racists.
    This isn't just some random thing.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    nuffingman wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    oh i agree he was being an arse. and he absolutely didnt think. but i still dont think we should just laugh it off. someone needs to educate this young man as to what is acceptable and what isnt. im not suggesting he be hung drawn and quartered, just taken aside and be made aware of how inappropriate his words are. though im sure hes realising that now irregardless of him trying to pass it off as just humour.
    Yes, educating him is the right thing. But on a lighter side here's a similar image to one sent to me years ago by my very black friend. He called it "You sunbathing at the North Pole". I thought it was hilarious. Of course I sent a response.

    sunglasses.jpg

    LOL!!! that's me in the summer time.

    Godfather.
  • Brock Samson
    Brock Samson Posts: 328
    Godfather. wrote:
    comidians do this kind of humor all the time..comidians of all color do it and it's just that ....a freakin joke !
    and everybody laughs.

    Godfather.

    didn't chris rock say "this place is cracka lackin" in the disney movie madagascar when the characters were on the island off the coast of africa? is that racist?
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  • catefrances
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    moe.ron wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    comidians do this kind of humor all the time..comidians of all color do it and it's just that ....a freakin joke !
    and everybody laughs.

    Godfather.

    didn't chris rock say "this place is cracka lackin" in the disney movie madagascar when the characters were on the island off the coast of africa? is that racist?

    yes marty did say that. and no it wasnt racist.
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  • Brock Samson
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    catefrances wrote:
    moe.ron wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    comidians do this kind of humor all the time..comidians of all color do it and it's just that ....a freakin joke !
    and everybody laughs.

    Godfather.

    didn't chris rock say "this place is cracka lackin" in the disney movie madagascar when the characters were on the island off the coast of africa? is that racist?

    yes marty did say that. and no it wasnt racist.

    yeah, i guess you're right. how the hell could a zebra be racist?
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  • catefrances
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    moe.ron wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    moe.ron wrote:
    didn't chris rock say "this place is cracka lackin" in the disney movie madagascar when the characters were on the island off the coast of africa? is that racist?

    yes marty did say that. and no it wasnt racist.

    yeah, i guess you're right. how the hell could a zebra be racist?

    well id think surfing to shore on dolphins would be extremely crackalackin' even if youre not a talking zebra.
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