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keeponrockin wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAO4EVMlpwM&feature=related

Awesome!

I just don't get how someone can identify themselves as a hipster or an indie kid? Doesn't it go against what it stands for. It's kind of like saying you're an alternative band if you're on a major label.

true, but i read pitchfork religiously, like american apparel and urban outfitters, listen to grizzly bear, bon iver, animal collective and radiohead, wear skinny jeans, and think garden state is my favorite movie

i may be a walking stereotype, or cliche, but what else would my genre of preference be? it aint top 40 pop.

mookeywrench wrote:

I don't mean this in a negative way, but it seems to me that hipsters are all about conforming and are open to conforming, just not with the entire world.

The majority of them seem to come across as lost and they are open to finding their little niche of where they belong in the world. And when they find it, they cling to it.

thats actually accurate for me personally, i cant speak for millions of others though. for me, i found indie rock, when i was going through tumultuous personal problems, and the music helped comfort me. When you are going through an existential crisis, what better mentors to have than modest mouse, the shins or nick drake. i am lost, and am open to finding my niche in the world, and when i latched onto indie rock in 2006, i never let go, and havent yet. i do cling to it. Its a sense of belonging. I dont relate to the mainstream culture, and am not one of the herd. I have never been and never will be one of "them". But with indie rock, and the whole hipster culture, i get a sense of community, of belonging. How cool is it to be a part of a music scene, to feel a part of something? And how special is it to have bands releasing albums that speak to you? I dont want to move on from this scene, from the music. Its been with me through my changes and its guided and aided me.

So mookey, while i honestly, personally hate whenever you post on one of my threads, your analysis was actually rather intelligent this time

metsfan wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

I think the indie thing is like punk. It used to be different, but now you just have genius chain stores making shit loads of money off it.

For me, the indie scene might not be the main herd, but it is definitely a herd.

please don't compare indie to punk. Punk didn't sell out major labels went looking for the new "it" thing and they found that in bands like greend day and other shitty pop punk bands. Do you honestly think 5 years from now a band like grizzly bear or wilco will still be popular. not disrespecting those bands or other indie bands but to me they don't have that staying power to keep the scene alive.

thats ridiculous. wilco has been big in the indie scene since the start, and got really noticed for yhf, released in 2001 or 2002. thats a hell of a long time, almost a decade they have been a big deal now. and the modern indie scene, got big, who knows when. its hard to say. 2003, may be the easiest year to say, as its when modest mouse and death cab and postal service got big. So 2003 to now 2010, again thats a long time. grunge lasted 4 years. 3 years basically, september of 1991 to april of 1994. And of the leading bands, grizzly bear, animal collective, the shins, modest mouse, death cab, and so on, few if any are using heroin, or meth or any other thing like that. drugs seems to be a non issue in the indie scene. and 2010 seems as indie based as any year, this is a huge month for indie right now. i dont get the whole "indie is dead" mentality. pitchfork still is popular.