What are your thoughts on the Toyota recall? Over blown?

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    KDH12 wrote:


    Ford has an ongoing recall that has hit over 10 mil now, you hear anything about that lately?

    http://www.switchfires.com/

    2 of the biggest all time recalls were Ford

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/automot ... tml?page=1

    and those are just a few examples

    my daughter's cribbed had been recalled because a few kids got their heads stuck or something and I did not even know, accidentally found out when searching the web for a part for the crib

    in terms of the world of recalls, this one is blown out of proportion
    these are great points! I meant to try and search for some information on recalls from other manufacturers.
    I was also going to bring up the crib thing, i worked in a baby department and saw recalls from cribs to strollers to car seats to bouncers.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    i found this article yesterday:
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100212/autos_cato_100212/20100212?s_name=Autos
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    KDH12 wrote:
    yes over blown

    there are hundreds of recalls a year that are more dangerous that don't make the news

    they are trying to sell more cars from american companies

    Overblown? Cars not braking properly?
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    the thing is most cars are made in america anyways ... my understanding is the foot pedals were made by an American manufacturer ...

    Most cars are not made in America and the foot pedal in question was manufactured in Mississauga.
    polaris_x wrote:
    the flip side to the situation is that toyota in seeing a problem is doing the right thing where some other car makers may not do this ...

    Toyota only issued the recall under heavy public pressure and at first was replacing floor mats...how ludicrous floor mats being the problem. Many experts believe this is a software problem including Steve Woziack.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/03 ... -2010feb03
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    right wing blogs and "news" outlets are loving it and feeding the paranoia.

    We need Oil!! we are not ready for any alternatives. Drill baby drill.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Smellyman wrote:
    right wing blogs and "news" outlets are loving it and feeding the paranoia.

    We need Oil!! we are not ready for any alternatives. Drill baby drill.

    Actually Chevy has more fuel efficient cars than Toyota and Ford is right there as well, and weather you like it or not pretty much every relies on oil.
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    You know what they say, it's not so much the mistake, but the coverup, that the real problem.

    Apparently Toyota had hired at least two engineers and one investigator from the NHTSA to help them cover up issues with their accelerators since 2004.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/05/repo ... us-uninte/

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  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    lukin2006 wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    yes over blown

    there are hundreds of recalls a year that are more dangerous that don't make the news

    they are trying to sell more cars from american companies

    Overblown? Cars not braking properly?


    yes overblown compared to hundreds of recalls yearly that are just as dangerous that don't even so much as make the back page of a newspaper
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    KDH12 wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    yes over blown

    there are hundreds of recalls a year that are more dangerous that don't make the news

    they are trying to sell more cars from american companies

    Overblown? Cars not braking properly?


    yes overblown compared to hundreds of recalls yearly that are just as dangerous that don't even so much as make the back page of a newspaper
    Well I think its the way it was handled, like at first it was floor mats? the the brake pedal? now maybe it's software?
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Well I think its the way it was handled, like at first it was floor mats? the the brake pedal? now maybe it's software?
    those are 2 different problems... cars like the camry and corolla had accelerator problems, the prius had a software problem that they're fixing as a precautionary measure
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Well I think its the way it was handled, like at first it was floor mats? the the brake pedal? now maybe it's software?
    those are 2 different problems... cars like the camry and corolla had accelerator problems, the prius had a software problem that they're fixing as a precautionary measure
    But to blame it on the floor mats, just seemed like a stretch. Now that they are the biggest automaker they are finding out how tough it really is. Their now seeing when your that big and you have problems the media will pay more attention, similar to the problems Ford and GM have faced over the years.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    lukin2006 wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Well I think its the way it was handled, like at first it was floor mats? the the brake pedal? now maybe it's software?
    those are 2 different problems... cars like the camry and corolla had accelerator problems, the prius had a software problem that they're fixing as a precautionary measure
    But to blame it on the floor mats, just seemed like a stretch. Now that they are the biggest automaker they are finding out how tough it really is. Their now seeing when your that big and you have problems the media will pay more attention, similar to the problems Ford and GM have faced over the years.

    Doesn't seem like that much of a strech to me. When I was learning to drive, my instructor told me that the most common cause of of a gas pedal getting stuck is actually the floor mat.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    lukin2006 wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Well I think its the way it was handled, like at first it was floor mats? the the brake pedal? now maybe it's software?
    those are 2 different problems... cars like the camry and corolla had accelerator problems, the prius had a software problem that they're fixing as a precautionary measure
    But to blame it on the floor mats, just seemed like a stretch. Now that they are the biggest automaker they are finding out how tough it really is. Their now seeing when your that big and you have problems the media will pay more attention, similar to the problems Ford and GM have faced over the years.
    Well i think the issue is not so much that they are the biggest, but because so far they have had the reputation of being one of the most reliable cars...
    They've easily outlasted any north american car we've had...
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  • KDH12
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    interesting perspective

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =123595413
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    KDH12 wrote:
    interesting perspective

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =123595413
    Ms. LINDLAND: And so there's a woman that wrote on - this is the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to me in my life as well as my grandchildren. She said her Corolla veered on its own to the right, hurtling down a cliff and hit a tree and a fence. So again, this is just coming out now. We havent even really had time to fully investigate.

    lol wtf?
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    The last 51 seconds in the life of a Toyota owner, and his family.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MyxGUUtE8A



    Overblown? You tell me.
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  • know1
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    I have a slight suspicion that there is some merit in these recalls as well as some element of a witch hunt in this.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • know1
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    The last 51 seconds in the life of a Toyota owner, and his family.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MyxGUUtE8A



    Overblown? You tell me.

    In 51 seconds, that man had time to make a phone call, but couldn't jam down the brake pedal and slide the car into neutral?
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  • CJMST3K
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    know1 wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    The last 51 seconds in the life of a Toyota owner, and his family.

    Audio only:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MyxGUUtE8A



    Overblown? You tell me.

    In 51 seconds, that man had time to make a phone call, but couldn't jam down the brake pedal and slide the car into neutral?


    I think the brake was not helping - and in a panic didn't think of turning off the car. Frankly, before the news of a recall, I wouldn't have thought to turn it off. I would think of that for just about every other electronic device, but a car it wouldn't have crossed my mind, especially in a panic, until it was mentioned in the news recently. ...though I may have thought to try to slowly engage the parking brake.
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  • Kel Varnsen
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    The last 51 seconds in the life of a Toyota owner, and his family.

    Audio only:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MyxGUUtE8A



    Overblown? You tell me.

    In 51 seconds, that man had time to make a phone call, but couldn't jam down the brake pedal and slide the car into neutral?


    I think the brake was not helping - and in a panic didn't think of turning off the car. Frankly, before the news of a recall, I wouldn't have thought to turn it off. I would think of that for just about every other electronic device, but a car it wouldn't have crossed my mind, especially in a panic, until it was mentioned in the news recently. ...though I may have thought to try to slowly engage the parking brake.


    Actually if your gas pedal gets stuck you are not supposed to turn the car off, if you are moving. Since if you turn the car off when it is moving, you lose power steering and brakes, and your sterring wheel is likely to lock. That is why you put it in Neutral until you can stop safely.

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