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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Some more:

    American Institute of Biological Sciences
    American Society of Agronomy
    American Society of Plant Biologists
    Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
    Botanical Society of America
    Crop Science Society of America
    Ecological Society of America
    Natural Science Collections Alliance
    Organization of Biological Field Stations
    Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
    Society of Systematic Biologists
    Soil Science Society of America
    University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    prfctlefts wrote:
    How are we suppose to belive these so called scientist when they have been caught using different temps from different decades and they co mingled them with current temputures,and they are being susidized in one form or another and by one government or another. The fact of the matter is they are trying to manipulate the statistics to affect public policy. (cap and trade ) These people are leftist radicals who don't want to tell us the truth. They want to advance their agenda.

    Researcher on Climate Is Cleared in Inquiry:

    "An academic board of inquiry has largely cleared a noted Pennsylvania State University climatologist of scientific misconduct...The scientist...has been at the center of a dispute arising from the unauthorized release of more than 1,000 e-mail messages"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/scien ... ss&emc=rss
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nised.html

    There has been no global warming since 1995

    Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes
    The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.
    Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.
    Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0fZbxdM8J
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-234092--.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nised.html

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/15 ... urricanes/

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/e ... 026317.ece



    So Where's that fraud Al Gore hiding ?
    If he's got any sense he might want to go into the winess protection program.

    Do any of you have any idea how much money has been spent by govrnment in the private sector to resspond to all these frauds ? Or what the EPA is about to do based on all this ? Despite the fact that they dont have a scientific leg to stand on the EPA ,Obama, and rest of his ILK still want to pass CAP and TRADE.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    sooo ... really? ... not interested in reading the other side?

    it's fucking snowing in dallas and georgia and it's 50 deg. F in Vancouver for the olympics ... really - why do i bother?
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Why isn't everyone super happy about this fantastic news?

    A bunch of corrupt government owned "scientists" lied about mother Earth's doom :twisted:

    These jerks lied for money and now they are telling the truth. Our planet does not have a fever.

    The fact that everything is going to be ok should make you feel a genuine sense of relief :)

    I don't understand. Why do you WANT to believe that the Earth is warming?
    Everything is going to be OK. Quit worring and enjoy the climate.
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    otter wrote:
    Why isn't everyone super happy about this fantastic news?

    A bunch of corrupt government owned "scientists" lied about mother Earth's doom :twisted:

    These jerks lied for money and now they are telling the truth. Our planet does not have a fever.

    The fact that everything is going to be ok should make you feel a genuine sense of relief :)

    I don't understand. Why do you WANT to believe that the Earth is warming?
    Everything is going to be OK. Quit worring and enjoy the climate.

    because it's not true ...

    edit: sorry i should say because the stuff you write isn't true ... the earth is INDEED warming and it's due to man ... the evidence is beyond reproach now ...
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    polaris_x wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Why isn't everyone super happy about this fantastic news?

    A bunch of corrupt government owned "scientists" lied about mother Earth's doom :twisted:

    These jerks lied for money and now they are telling the truth. Our planet does not have a fever.

    The fact that everything is going to be ok should make you feel a genuine sense of relief :)

    I don't understand. Why do you WANT to believe that the Earth is warming?
    Everything is going to be OK. Quit worring and enjoy the climate.

    because it's not true ...

    edit: sorry i should say because the stuff you write isn't true ... the earth is INDEED warming and it's due to man ... the evidence is beyond reproach now ...

    The information that is comming out now is saying that these people were lying. So, the evidence you are refering to is wrong by definition.
    Read this:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... vovafbIbGK
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ns_opinion
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... o-unravel/
    These are the very latest about this issue. They are from reputable sources, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Times.
    It is ok. We were ALL lied to. Forget that you believed the hype and fell for the lies...many many did too. It's ok. Just be happy that the planet is not doomed; we are not doomed. Everything is hunky dory!! :mrgreen:
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    So were, did this start? Who is behind all the lies? Who had the most to gain in this scheme? We need to stop standing by the Republicans and the Democrats and demand truths! Stop letting Washington treat us like idiots. The people need to come together and question everything they do, but most or all we need to DEMAND answers! Make them accountable! Were, do we start? For right now I see the Tea Party asking questions....if there is anything else out there I am keeping an open mind and willing to check it out, are you?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    glen beck is asking questions..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    otter wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Why isn't everyone super happy about this fantastic news?

    A bunch of corrupt government owned "scientists" lied about mother Earth's doom :twisted:

    These jerks lied for money and now they are telling the truth. Our planet does not have a fever.

    The fact that everything is going to be ok should make you feel a genuine sense of relief :)

    I don't understand. Why do you WANT to believe that the Earth is warming?
    Everything is going to be OK. Quit worring and enjoy the climate.

    because it's not true ...

    edit: sorry i should say because the stuff you write isn't true ... the earth is INDEED warming and it's due to man ... the evidence is beyond reproach now ...

    The information that is comming out now is saying that these people were lying. So, the evidence you are refering to is wrong by definition.
    Read this:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... vovafbIbGK
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ns_opinion
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... o-unravel/
    These are the very latest about this issue. They are from reputable sources, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Times.
    It is ok. We were ALL lied to. Forget that you believed the hype and fell for the lies...many many did too. It's ok. Just be happy that the planet is not doomed; we are not doomed. Everything is hunky dory!! :mrgreen:


    and 2 of those are owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns Faux Op/Ed and the washington times is owned by Rev Sun Myung Moon who The Washington Post reported: "the Times was established by Moon to combat communism and be a conservative alternative to what he perceived as the liberal bias of The Washington Post" also, 1 of their editors has been sued for racist and sexist remarks
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    glen beck is asking questions..


    beat me to it :mrgreen:
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    otter wrote:
    The information that is comming out now is saying that these people were lying. So, the evidence you are refering to is wrong by definition.
    Read this:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... vovafbIbGK
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ns_opinion
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... o-unravel/
    These are the very latest about this issue. They are from reputable sources, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Times.
    It is ok. We were ALL lied to. Forget that you believed the hype and fell for the lies...many many did too. It's ok. Just be happy that the planet is not doomed; we are not doomed. Everything is hunky dory!! :mrgreen:

    the NY POST as a reputable source? ... ok - now I know you are either playing the sarcasm card or something ...

    trust me tho - i would like nothing than to wake up and come to the conclusion that the climate isn't changing and that we aren't the cause of it ... unfortunately, today is not the day nor will tomorrow ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    otter wrote:
    The information that is comming out now is saying that these people were lying. So, the evidence you are refering to is wrong by definition.
    Read this:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... vovafbIbGK
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ns_opinion
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... o-unravel/
    These are the very latest about this issue. They are from reputable sources, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Times.
    It is ok. We were ALL lied to. Forget that you believed the hype and fell for the lies...many many did too. It's ok. Just be happy that the planet is not doomed; we are not doomed. Everything is hunky dory!! :mrgreen:

    the NY POST as a reputable source? ... ok - now I know you are either playing the sarcasm card or something ...

    trust me tho - i would like nothing than to wake up and come to the conclusion that the climate isn't changing and that we aren't the cause of it ... unfortunately, today is not the day nor will tomorrow ...


    You people are so brain washed it doesn't matter what anyone says. You'll never wake up cos you don't want to wake up. What's it going to take. Every week something else or some so called scientist are coming out and saying that it's not man made or they don't have any credible data. You probably didn't even read any of those articles.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    You people are so brain washed it doesn't matter what anyone says. You'll never wake up cos you don't want to wake up. What's it going to take. Every week something else or some so called scientist are coming out and saying that it's not man made or they don't have any credible data. You probably didn't even read any of those articles.

    dude ... how many articles have you posted on this topic that someone has proven to be paid by big oil or was fabricated!?? ... you do the same thing - post something that suits your bias and then disappear when it's proven to be a sham ...

    why don't you debate the science in these threads? ... the answer is because you don't understand it ... you haven't taken the time that has been humbly suggested to you to do so ... if you did - you'd realize you're the one who continues to be taken for ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    So now Phil jones is being paid by big oil ? What about Nigel Arnel and the IPCC ? I guess the've been paid off by big oil to. :roll: :lol:

    What the hell do you want to debate ? It's junk science. I bet you haven't read not one of those articles. And honestly I dont give a rats ass if you do or not. LIke I said every week something else comes out proving that all these scientist have been making this shit up or distorting the facts. And they themselves are the ones coming forward so it's not like someone else is acusing them of the sort. The thing is you dont get is that these people have an AGENDA..... Do you honestly think that these people actually give a shit about the planet ? If so say hello to ToTo and Dorthey for me cos your livin in oz.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    So now Phil jones is being paid by big oil ? What about Nigel Arnel and the IPCC ? I guess the've been paid off by big oil to. :roll: :lol:

    What the hell do you want to debate ? It's junk science. I bet you haven't read not one of those articles. And honestly I dont give a rats ass if you do or not. LIke I said every week something else comes out proving that all these scientist have been making this shit up or distorting the facts. And they themselves are the ones coming forward so it's not like someone else is acusing them of the sort. The thing is you dont get is that these people have an AGENDA..... Do you honestly think that these people actually give a shit about the planet ? If so say hello to ToTo and Dorthey for me cos your livin in oz.

    you got to be kidding me ... i actually did click your first link ... only to find YET AGAIN - someone who sourced from a discredited person! ... don't you see the pattern here? ...

    soooo ... you talk about AGENDAs - yet you seem to give all your sources (paid for by right wing think tanks and the oil industry) as altruistic yet - you ignore the WORLDWIDE consensus ... you can ignore the weather all around you - it's changing before your very own eyes yet you are glued to your neo-conservative websites that most independent thinkers have long moved past ...

    i do find it funny tho that you consider it junk science ... please read "Trust Us, We're Experts" - and you will find that you have been consistently manipulated ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Yeah I see a patern alright. That all of you are full of shit. and just how is this person discredited ? You can't control the weather dude. So if it was a left wing think tank you would believe it. This whole environmentalist movement is like a Marxist movment. All of you want to throw us back into some form of argarian way of life. You people want to target the industrial revolution and American industry through lidigation and regulations. Your movement wants to limit our ability to have access to the kind of materials we wish to have that make our lives easier.You people are nothing more than abunch of FUNDAMENTALIST THAT WANT TO RUN OUR LIVES.

    The enviormenalist have secreted their way into our government through the EPA and now they control it. They want to put in place an old form of Soviet style industrial policy where they determine what is produced,how much,and when. They want to also determine the allocation of resources and the allocation of services.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    So now Phil jones is being paid by big oil ? What about Nigel Arnel and the IPCC ? I guess the've been paid off by big oil to. :roll: :lol:

    What the hell do you want to debate ? It's junk science. I bet you haven't read not one of those articles. And honestly I dont give a rats ass if you do or not. LIke I said every week something else comes out proving that all these scientist have been making this shit up or distorting the facts. And they themselves are the ones coming forward so it's not like someone else is acusing them of the sort. The thing is you dont get is that these people have an AGENDA..... Do you honestly think that these people actually give a shit about the planet ? If so say hello to ToTo and Dorthey for me cos your livin in oz.

    you got to be kidding me ... i actually did click your first link ... only to find YET AGAIN - someone who sourced from a discredited person! ... don't you see the pattern here? ...

    soooo ... you talk about AGENDAs - yet you seem to give all your sources (paid for by right wing think tanks and the oil industry) as altruistic yet - you ignore the WORLDWIDE consensus ... you can ignore the weather all around you - it's changing before your very own eyes yet you are glued to your neo-conservative websites that most independent thinkers have long moved past ...

    i do find it funny tho that you consider it junk science ... please read "Trust Us, We're Experts" - and you will find that you have been consistently manipulated ...


    Um 3 of the 4 links I posted came from the uk dude. Hardly right wing or big oil. :? :roll:
    The fact of the matter is there is no conclusive evidence that "global warming" OOOOPS I mean Climate Change :roll: is anything other than NATURAL TEMPUTURE VARIATIONS which actually existed before man kind and have very little to to do with man made fossil fuels.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    So wait, the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal owned by Rupert "ClusterFOX" Murdoch, and the Washington Times owned by the loonie Moonies, are reliable unbiased sources? :lol:
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"

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