Fully Pearl Jam loaded ipod......

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  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    walkunafraid wrote:
    No, the songs won't all get deleted as long as you have your iTunes set up to not automatically import/synch with your iPod.

    However, this is VERY illegal and this thread should probably be deleted by the mods.

    Selling an iPod filled with music is no different than selling bootleg CDs -- you are not selling the original music you purchased, but rather copies of this music. Even if the files are digital, only the original files that went straight to your PC are "original" -- whatever is on your iPod is copied.

    I know, because I tried to do something similar before and got in trouble for it.


    This ipod however would be legal to sell if it did not contain music that is still commercially available, ie 2008 bootlegs and the studio albums.

    all of the other shows have download links here, and the band freely allows that so i don't see a reason why it would be illegal not to sell it. As long as there is no price being put on the content of the ipod, the sale is purely for the ipod hardware
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • walkunafraid
    walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
    vedder_soup wrote:
    This ipod however would be legal to sell if it did not contain music that is still commercially available, ie 2008 bootlegs and the studio albums.

    all of the other shows have download links here, and the band freely allows that so i don't see a reason why it would be illegal not to sell it. As long as there is no price being put on the content of the ipod, the sale is purely for the ipod hardware

    True. If you took off the studio releases, 2008 bootlegs, and anything else that is still commercially available, you should be good.

    Thanks vedder_soup for pointing that out.
    Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ

    “The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
  • dr teeth
    dr teeth Posts: 115
    walkunafraid wrote:
    True. If you took off the studio releases, 2008 bootlegs, and anything else that is still commercially available, you should be good.

    Thanks vedder_soup for pointing that out.
    that's what i will do then..........yeah.
    jeter drinks wine coolers
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,024
    vedder_soup wrote:
    all of the other shows have download links here, and the band freely allows that so i don't see a reason why it would be illegal not to sell it. As long as there is no price being put on the content of the ipod, the sale is purely for the ipod hardware


    The band is gracious enough to allow people to trade the boots and download them for free for you own personal enjoyment.

    They have never given permission for fans to sell the bootlegs that they are nice enough to allow to be shared for free.

    There is a big difference between selling the original boot CDs and selling digital copies. Once you sell the original CD boots they're gone... but theoretically someone could sell unlimited digital copies. Big difference.

    To the OP... this is an amateur move and you know better.
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    On2Legs wrote:
    The band is gracious enough to allow people to trade the boots and download them for free for you own personal enjoyment.

    They have never given permission for fans to sell the bootlegs that they are nice enough to allow to be shared for free.

    There is a big difference between selling the original boot CDs and selling digital copies. Once you sell the original CD boots they're gone... but theoretically someone could sell unlimited digital copies. Big difference.

    To the OP... this is an amateur move and you know better.

    back to the point i made in a previous post...
    vedder_soup wrote:
    all of the other shows have download links here, and the band freely allows that so i don't see a reason why it would be illegal not to sell it. As long as there is no price being put on the content of the ipod, the sale is purely for the ipod hardware

    basically Dr Teeth is saving somebody the trouble of downloading the boots and putting them onto an ipod
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • joe2468
    joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    can i please ask WHY the second someone wants to sell something you all freak out....ONE its an ipod....TWO im sure he got all the music from the same site WE all got them from..if you ask me HES not goin to make any more money then what the ipod cost....if not less do to deprecation of the ipod itself.... SO LET HIM SELL IT AND SHUT UP........next you guys are goin to tell me that NONE of you EITHER BOUGHT NORE SOLD ANYTHING PEARL JAM RELATED 10% more then its face value...cause you know that is illegal too.

    im sorry for going off

    if any one wants an ipod FILLED WITH EVERY RECORDED PEARL JAM CONCERT/BOOTLEGG/SONG SINCE 1990.........go to [email]WWW.PEARLJ@$^^$.com[/email] and download them for yourself FOR FREE!!!!!
    have you seen the colors of my fathers eyes
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,024
    Making digital copies of the band's music and selling it is a douche bag move.
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    On2Legs wrote:
    Making digital copies of the band's music and selling it is a douche bag move.

    but is selling an ipod for ipod value only a douche bag move?
    the only difference is that the music is on there.
    most of it is free and digital only!
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • Keith_Rineck
    Keith_Rineck Posts: 7
    dr teeth wrote:
    ........would anyone be interested in buying a 80gb ipod with every official boot from 2000-2008, and all the studio albums.come on.make me an offer.


    Dr. Teeth, I am extremely interested in knowing what you are trying to accomplish by doing this? I am completely fucking mystified by how you think this is something that should be taking place on this website. Please remember that a wave is followed by another wave, and just because the first wave didn't scare you doesn't mean that the following wave won't come crashing down.

    I would suggest you delete this thread and pick a new band to listen to, because we don't need you openly doing what you're doing.
  • Dirty Stuart
    Dirty Stuart Posts: 182
    joe2468 wrote:
    can i please ask WHY the second someone wants to sell something you all freak out....ONE its an ipod....TWO im sure he got all the music from the same site WE all got them from..if you ask me HES not goin to make any more money then what the ipod cost....if not less do to deprecation of the ipod itself.... SO LET HIM SELL IT AND SHUT UP........next you guys are goin to tell me that NONE of you EITHER BOUGHT NORE SOLD ANYTHING PEARL JAM RELATED 10% more then its face value...cause you know that is illegal too.

    im sorry for going off

    if any one wants an ipod FILLED WITH EVERY RECORDED PEARL JAM CONCERT/BOOTLEGG/SONG SINCE 1990.........go to [email]WWW.PEARLJ@$^^$.com[/email] and download them for yourself FOR FREE!!!!!

    ok, since we are shouting

    THE STUDIO ALBUMS ARE STILL COPYRIGHTED AS ARE THE 2008 BOOTLEGS.

    No one is talking about the other years, we all know they are public domain.

    What the OP is advertising is effectively PIRATED material.

    And we can all CAPITALIZE WORDS for EFFECTIVENESS.
    OH: You need to stop buying Pearl Jam stuff, we have no room
    Me: How about we just get a bigger house?

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  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Dirty Stuart wrote:
    ok, since we are shouting

    THE STUDIO ALBUMS ARE STILL COPYRIGHTED AS ARE THE 2008 BOOTLEGS.

    No one is talking about the other years, we all know they are public domain.

    What the OP is advertising is effectively PIRATED material.

    And we can all CAPITALIZE WORDS for EFFECTIVENESS.


    well read the whole post and look at the op's post in post number 24, in reply to my post pointing out what you have pointed out!

    if people read the whole thread to see what is going on, we would not be getting into stupid arguments!
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • Dirty Stuart
    Dirty Stuart Posts: 182
    vedder_soup wrote:
    well read the whole post and look at the op's post in post number 24, in reply to my post pointing out what you have pointed out!

    if people read the whole thread to see what is going on, we would not be getting into stupid arguments!

    I did read it. Does it sound to you like he's going to do that:
    dr teeth wrote:
    that's what i will do then..........yeah.
    OH: You need to stop buying Pearl Jam stuff, we have no room
    Me: How about we just get a bigger house?

    http://db.etree.org/DirtyStuart
    http://randomismsofa.blogspot.com
  • dr teeth
    dr teeth Posts: 115
    you know what.....nevermind.if all of you arguing put as much energy into something constructive as you do into this, you could be world leaders.go change the world motherfuckers.that way you won't have ulcers when the next person here tries to sell something.
    jeter drinks wine coolers
  • Surf Rider
    Surf Rider Posts: 813
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  • joe2468
    joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    im with you on this.. i think its so funny how mad people get when you try to make a buck..its like they part of the band and they take it so personal ..
    dr teeth wrote:
    you know what.....nevermind.if all of you arguing put as much energy into something constructive as you do into this, you could be world leaders.go change the world motherfuckers.that way you won't have ulcers when the next person here tries to sell something.
    have you seen the colors of my fathers eyes
  • joe2468
    joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    please do some reserch about copyrightes before you write something...it has nothing to do with albums/bootlegs..you dont copyright them you copywrite the songs.. EX. you write a song ,you copyright it, you own it its your for ever......UNLESS you are part of a label ...you write a song THEY own a % of it ,if not all of it.. its the songs that are copyright not the albums... i can go one more about this but im sure you know what im gettin at.. i have freinds who work for sony.and freidns that are in bands that you all know..i grew up on long island. part of the hard core scene. im good friends with guys from taking back sunday... thursday..glassjaw..silentmajority..ETC ETC ETC....so when it comes to music in any shape or form i know what im talking about....HELL you could write a song never ever play it and still copyright it..so if anyone ever records song that sound remotely like yours....can you say CA-CHING

    AND NOW WE COME TO THE VAULT.....the reason why pearl jam has not RELEASED any of the past concerts .is do to the fact that sony still owns them...and as we speak there are talks goin on about perl jam getting the CATALOG so they can do what ever they want with them..........

    on another side note...did you know that michael jackson OWNS the beattles catalog....meanig everytime you here a beattles song he gets paid...he has the writes to them what he says gos.you want to use one of the beattles songs in a comercial you dont go to Ringo/Paul/georg...you go to michael..
    i know this has nothong to do with the OP but i just had to clear some stuff out..

    no hard feeling i understand you all have your reasons. and respect that but you cant get madd at people just cause they wanna get rid of an ipod...that happens to have "some" pearl jam music on it

    and for the record capitalizaing words does get your point across
    Dirty Stuart wrote:
    ok, since we are shouting

    THE STUDIO ALBUMS ARE STILL COPYRIGHTED AS ARE THE 2008 BOOTLEGS.

    No one is talking about the other years, we all know they are public domain.

    What the OP is advertising is effectively PIRATED material.

    And we can all CAPITALIZE WORDS for EFFECTIVENESS.
    have you seen the colors of my fathers eyes
  • opie1280
    opie1280 Posts: 39
    you should research how to spell "copywrite" the proper way.
  • joe2468
    joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    fixed them...thought it was wong.good lookin out
    opie1280 wrote:
    you should research how to spell "copywrite" the proper way.
    have you seen the colors of my fathers eyes
  • John Briggs 2008
    John Briggs 2008 Posts: 1,024
    Personally, I would contact TenC and find out what's acceptable. better safe than sorry and you are showing respect for the band and it's intelectual rights as well as the record companies involved. Stay out of trouble and always try to do right.

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