"Just Breathe" DID IT
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And, for the record, "Last Kiss" was Pearl Jam's biggest "hit" in Hot 100 terms, peaking at #2. Oddly enough, "I Got Id/Long Road" was the band's next-biggest hit, peaking at #7.
The problem with looking at Pearl Jam's chart performance is that the eligibility requirements have changed over the years. When "Ten" and "Vs." were out, a song had to be commercially available as a single to chart on the Hot 100. Thus, even if "Daughter" were #1 in airplay, for example, it was not eligible to chart because there was no commercially available single in the U.S. (The early PJ "singles" were released in the U.S. much later, and several of the songs actually charted at the bottom end of the Hot 100 on the strength of sales alone.)
"I Got Id" was the exact opposite. It got very little airplay on pop stations, but the sales of "Merkin Ball," which were huge the first week, were enough to cause the song to debut in the top 10.
"Last Kiss" combined huge airplay with significant sales, but it was something of a novelty hit. You don't hear "Last Kiss" on the radio very much anymore (although, coincidentally, I heard it here in L.A. just yesterday on 100.3), but you still hear "Daughter" and "Jeremy." In Billboard terms, "Last Kiss" is PJ's biggest hit, but in non-chart terms-- i.e., what is the band's most well-known and well-loved song?-- it's probably "Daughter" or "Jeremy."I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
^^^ I'd say Alive or Better Man is their most universally loved tune.0
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Wilds wrote:All of these are good and fair points. And I have thought all along that Just Breathe was the best choice as a second single. I also don't believe it will do what KOL or Green Day did, but it is still possible. In fact I think Unthougth Known also has a chance to cross over if released.
Now with all that said, and on the topic of 'admitting when you are wrong', If you are going to call people out, then perhaps you should admit you were wrong about what caused the dramatic spike over the Black Friday week.
It was the sale price, not alone, but as the most significant driving factor.
In a way you are right...
But, in my defense (I'll use emphasizing tools to get my point across)...
I still think that it was the release of Just Breathe, the success of The Fixer, AND the sales price decline. I never said the price decline didn't help to increase sales... I thought it did, I just valued the other parts more than others (such as yourself?) did. My argument was that people needed to 'want' the CD, regardless of it's price, because music is not interchangeable. In other words, I believe significant price declines on a CD don't affect increase demand (relative to other CDs) as much as a price decline on a brand of milk (which is much more easily interchangeable). I thought the fixer and just breathe, along with positive reviews, were the reason people wanted the CD.
But, to be fair, maybe I over-exaggerated the immediate success of Just Breathe. So, I'll admit, Just Breathe has moved slower into the visability than I thought it would. So, maybe the reason for the jump during the Thanksgiving holiday was a bit more due to price than I had previously believed....Here's a new demo called "in the fire":
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inlet13 wrote:Wilds wrote:All of these are good and fair points. And I have thought all along that Just Breathe was the best choice as a second single. I also don't believe it will do what KOL or Green Day did, but it is still possible. In fact I think Unthougth Known also has a chance to cross over if released.
Now with all that said, and on the topic of 'admitting when you are wrong', If you are going to call people out, then perhaps you should admit you were wrong about what caused the dramatic spike over the Black Friday week.
It was the sale price, not alone, but as the most significant driving factor.
In a way you are right...
But, in my defense (I'll use emphasizing tools to get my point across)...
I still think that it was the release of Just Breathe, the success of The Fixer, AND the sales price decline. I never said the price decline didn't help to increase sales... I thought it did, I just valued the other parts more than others (such as yourself?) did. My argument was that people needed to 'want' the CD, regardless of it's price, because music is not interchangeable. In other words, I believe significant price declines on a CD don't affect increase demand (relative to other CDs) as much as a price decline on a brand of milk (which is much more easily interchangeable). I thought the fixer and just breathe, along with positive reviews, were the reason people wanted the CD.
But, to be fair, maybe I over-exaggerated the immediate success of Just Breathe. So, I'll admit, Just Breathe has moved slower into the visability than I thought it would. So, maybe the reason for the jump during the Thanksgiving holiday was a bit more due to price than I had previously believed....
Fair enough. Now let's hope that I'm proven wrong and Just Breathe does better than KOL and Green Day.
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Just Breathe is the only song on Backspacer I don't like. The album is great. Just Breathe is sub par.0
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DewieCox wrote:^^^ I'd say Alive or Better Man is their most universally loved tune.
Yes, "Better Man." Forgot "Better Man."
"Alive" does not have the same mainstream appeal as "Daughter," "Jeremy" or "Better Man," nor did it receive the same level of airplay.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
inlet13 wrote:Wilds wrote:All of these are good and fair points. And I have thought all along that Just Breathe was the best choice as a second single. I also don't believe it will do what KOL or Green Day did, but it is still possible. In fact I think Unthougth Known also has a chance to cross over if released.
Now with all that said, and on the topic of 'admitting when you are wrong', If you are going to call people out, then perhaps you should admit you were wrong about what caused the dramatic spike over the Black Friday week.
It was the sale price, not alone, but as the most significant driving factor.
In a way you are right...
But, in my defense (I'll use emphasizing tools to get my point across)...
I still think that it was the release of Just Breathe, the success of The Fixer, AND the sales price decline. I never said the price decline didn't help to increase sales... I thought it did, I just valued the other parts more than others (such as yourself?) did. My argument was that people needed to 'want' the CD, regardless of it's price, because music is not interchangeable. In other words, I believe significant price declines on a CD don't affect increase demand (relative to other CDs) as much as a price decline on a brand of milk (which is much more easily interchangeable). I thought the fixer and just breathe, along with positive reviews, were the reason people wanted the CD.
But, to be fair, maybe I over-exaggerated the immediate success of Just Breathe. So, I'll admit, Just Breathe has moved slower into the visability than I thought it would. So, maybe the reason for the jump during the Thanksgiving holiday was a bit more due to price than I had previously believed....
Everything indicates that the lower price point was the difference. The Prince album (another Target exclusive) had a similar sales spike the same week when it was discounted. Alice in Chains experienced the same thing two weeks later. All of these albums declined significantly the week after the discount.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
wnh1977 wrote:inlet13 wrote:Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....
it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already.
I'm the one who started this thread, so I guess I better step up and admit I was wrong... well kind of wrong :? I would've predicted "Just Breathe" disappearing from radio long before now... I do admit that. It hasn't become a huge hit, but it has slowly crept up the rock charts and has had pretty good staying power. Some people attribute this to the very stale programming of commercial radio. Whatever the case, I'm happy that the song has had modest success so far. Yes, I would call the success of "Just Breathe" modest at this point, not huge. We're definitely not to the territory of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Green Day) or "Use Somebody" (Kings of Leon). It is a success as far as second singles from Pearl Jam go, which isn't saying much.
What the song hasn't done (yet) is make Backspacer sales blow up. I think Backspacer sits at #80 on the latest Billboard charts with sales still under 500,000. Maybe without "Just Breathe", Backspacer would've completely stalled and dropped out of the top 200? I don't know. If the song does continue to climb up the charts and somehow manages to get Backspacer to platinum status (1 million sold), I will definitely belly up and eat my crow. Still don't see this happening.
As I stated earlier. When you started this thread. Just Breathe was is in its infancy. So it was premature. Also songs played on rock stations don't drive sales up that much. it'll have to crossover to pop stations to get sales up. The most audience impressions a song can get on a rock station is probably 12 million. And it'll take maybe a month or two if the song goes to number 1 on the rock charts. Compared to 70-80 million on top 40 stations. Where bands like Greemn Day, Linkin Park, KOL and Nickelback are played. If they get to that point every week. Sales will go up. But they're doing pretty well. With limited options to buy the album.I miss igotid880 -
On the elevator screen at my work building, I saw Just Breathe listed as the 3rd top Adult Rock song. Of course, I think like Train was 2nd, and Norah Jones was 1st, but I think this is the type of crowd Pearl Jam wants to attract with the song, so its headed in the right direction!Member Number: 437xxx
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BF25394 wrote:DewieCox wrote:^^^ I'd say Alive or Better Man is their most universally loved tune.
Yes, "Better Man." Forgot "Better Man."
"Alive" does not have the same mainstream appeal as "Daughter," "Jeremy" or "Better Man," nor did it receive the same level of airplay.
I think you could make a pretty good case for Alive's mainstream appeal. It was pretty well known in 92 and it's probably the PJ song I hear the most on the radio nowadays, well that and Better Man depending on the station. Alive get alotta classic rock love and rightfully so.
Jeremy is really the only tune I remember gettin totally worn out on the radio, so I'd put it in a league by itself.0 -
People like it in Holland.I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
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I still love it, and although I'd like it to be a success for the band, I remain unbothered by how it charts.
It proves nothing to me.
It's simple beautiful and performed perfectly, it presses all my buttons and does everything a song should. Probably my favourite song of last year, so fast forward Ireland - please bring the strings guys0 -
I wonder how Pearl Jam go about getting a local string quartet to play on stage with them. Nice on the quartets CV though...pdalowsky wrote:so fast forward Ireland - please bring the strings guys
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don't you think its a little stupid to compare Just Breathe to Use Somebody or Boulevard of Broken Dreams? those songs/bands had a marketing push behind them about 80 times greater than that of Just Breathe.www.myspace.com0
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I think it was a bad idea for a single, period. Amongst The Waves or Force Of Nature would have been much better choices.0
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#2 on Triple A charts
#10 on Alternative--big rotation uptick this weekTouring Fan since 19960 -
Ledbetterdays wrote:#2 on Triple A charts
#10 on Alternative--big rotation uptick this week
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Which would make PJ's accomplishment 80 times greater if they do manage to cross over.The Jeagler wrote:don't you think its a little stupid to compare Just Breathe to Use Somebody or Boulevard of Broken Dreams? those songs/bands had a marketing push behind them about 80 times greater than that of Just Breathe.Member Number: 437xxx
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