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Ledbetterman10 wrote:Unthought Known is fucking bland bullshit and judging by the posts I've seen on this board and RM, it's the most overrated PJ song ever. Like Inside Job before it, a lot of people just want to believe that a song on the new album is amazing when it's clearly not.
'Bland bullshit,' and 'people just want to believe that a song on the new album is amazing.' <---No idea what you are going on about..it's all relative..for example, I'm not a fan of Inside Job, and never have been....5 minute intros are not my thing, but when I listened to Backspacer for the first time, Unthought Known totally blew me away, and is still my favorite by far....I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how dumb and naive it may be
....and there are a good number of 'amazing' songs on the new record..in my opinion of course.. 'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'0 -
Ledbetterman10 wrote:Wilds wrote:Ledbetterman10 wrote:Unthought Known is fucking bland bullshit and judging by the posts I've seen on this board and RM, it's the most overrated PJ song ever. Like Inside Job before it, a lot of people just want to believe that a song on the new album is amazing when it's clearly not.
Inside job is a masterpiece (for me). I get chills with the opening and then take off with the whole song.
It is too bad that it doesn't do it for you.
No, it's not too bad for me because there are hundred of songs that give me that feeling. I think Inside Job...like All or None, is a totally anti-climatic album closer. I remember reading posts when it came out calling it "epic" and comparing it to Stairway To Heaven. I couldn't disagree more....but to each their own I guess.
I think alotta people see that it's 7 minutes long and get it in their heads that it's alot more "progressive" than it really is. I think it's one of the better ones on S/T, but Stairway it isn't.
One of their best in 10 years? Maybe, but that's not saying alot.
They haven't done much better than middle of the road the last couple albums. They've lost their edge.
RA was a good effort as far as attempting to write interesting music, but there was somethin missing.
Ten-Binaural was their golden age and to think that they can be that good again, in studio, is asking for something that just doesnt happen.0 -
I think that Unthought or Force of Nature would make great 3rd singles if they chose to release another. i really like Unthought a lot...that piano drives the song and sounds amazing.
Inside Job still blows me away as well. As much as I love that song, it's not my favorite on S/T...that nod goes to Marker.I LOVE MUSIC.
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DewieCox wrote:
RA was a good effort as far as attempting to write interesting music
Ten-Binaural was their golden age and to think that they can be that good again, in studio, is asking for something that just doesnt happen.
Yeah, songs like 'Help Help' are real fucking interesting ....and I'd take Backspacer over Binaural any day.. 'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'0 -
mfc2006 wrote:I think that Unthought or Force of Nature would make great 3rd singles if they chose to release another. i really like Unthought a lot...that piano drives the song and sounds amazing.
Force of Nature is amazingly good..'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'0 -
Wilds is right it is all subjective,
still I am dumbfounded by some of the nonsense written above.....yes total nonsense.
If I read it on a lady ga ga forum I'd understand but to read it here is strange
Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days0 -
The Champ wrote:DewieCox wrote:
RA was a good effort as far as attempting to write interesting music
Ten-Binaural was their golden age and to think that they can be that good again, in studio, is asking for something that just doesnt happen.
I'd take Backspacer over Binaural any day..
Don't lay your problems on us.0 -
DewieCox wrote:pdalowsky wrote:Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days
You're totally right. UK is a classic PJ song. It's called Love Boat Captain.
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No, Love Boat captain is called Wishlist!DewieCox wrote:pdalowsky wrote:Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days
You're totally right. UK is a classic PJ song. It's called Love Boat Captain.
Really, UK and LBC sound nothing alike besides the guitar strums at the beginning.
LBC is such a depressing downer of a song. Unthought Known really kicks its ass.0 -
DewieCox wrote:pdalowsky wrote:Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days
You're totally right. UK is a classic PJ song. It's called Love Boat Captain.
Dude, I couldn't agree more. But I don't even care that's it's an LBC rewrite. I just can't get over how in love with it people around here are. As I've said before, I don't think it's a horrible song or anything, but I don't find ANYTHING about it to be special and in fact, I think the piano in it flirts with cheesy a few times.
It's easily the most overrated song in PJ history (by the hardcore fans that is). A perfect example is this SPIN Magazine end-of-the-year readers poll. The link is a sticky over on the Red Mosquito Board. PJ fans have flooded the voting putting PJ in first for Artist, Album, AND Live Act of the Year. Don't get me wrong, that's cool that so many PJ fans have voted (including myself) but UNTHOUGHT KNOWN is leading the song of the year voting with The Fixer 3rd and Just Breathe 5th!! Again, it's cool to flood the voting (I guess), but this poll more than anything shows how in love with Unthought Known a lot of the hardcores are and I just can't figure out why: http://www.spin.com/articles/year-end-poll-2009-results2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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LikeAnOcean wrote:
No, Love Boat captain is called Wishlist!DewieCox wrote:pdalowsky wrote:Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days
You're totally right. UK is a classic PJ song. It's called Love Boat Captain.
Really, UK and LBC sound nothing alike besides the guitar strums at the beginning.
LBC is such a depressing downer of a song. Unthought Known really kicks its ass.
That's why Unthought Known is a rewrite. LBC is the downer version and UK is the upper version. Just because they're totally different songs doesn't mean it isn't a rewrite. John Lennon has said that Get Back is a "pot-boiler rewrite of Lady Madonna"2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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And LBC is a rewrite of Wishlist.. You can't get over it, because you just don't get it. Nothing wrong with that, but just comes to terms that this song really hits a sweet spot for a lot of people. We ain't just making this shit up so we can piss you off. It really is a great song.. and besides the guitar at the beginning of LBC is the only thing that sounds nothing like Unthought Known. If anything, In My Tree and Wishlist are more reminicent of the song structurally.Ledbetterman10 wrote:
That's why Unthought Known is a rewrite. LBC is the downer version and UK is the upper version. Just because they're totally different songs doesn't mean it isn't a rewrite. John Lennon has said that Get Back is a "pot-boiler rewrite of Lady Madonna"0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:
No, Love Boat captain is called Wishlist!DewieCox wrote:pdalowsky wrote:Unthought known is a classic PJ song, and its even better live.....still some of you are insistant in living in those no code and vitalogy days
You're totally right. UK is a classic PJ song. It's called Love Boat Captain.
Really, UK and LBC sound nothing alike besides the guitar strums at the beginning.
LBC is such a depressing downer of a song. Unthought Known really kicks its ass.
They are very similar. It really can't be argued. Not only the chords, but the dynamics of the song and even the vocal delivery is fairly similar.
LBC is depressing b/c Ed's RA performances are depressing.0 -
And the lyrics..DewieCox wrote:
LBC is depressing b/c Ed's RA performances are depressing.0 -
UnthoughtKnown wrote:I think if they release Unthought Known as a single, it will catapult Backspacer to Multi-Platinum.
That would be quite a feat. There are only two albums that have sold 2 million copies in 2009. (Of course, you don't have to sell 2 million to be certified double platinum, you just have to ship 2 million copies.)I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:You can't get over it, because you just don't get it. Nothing wrong with that, but just comes to terms that this song really hits a sweet spot for a lot of people. We ain't just making this shit up so we can piss you off.
I don't "get" any of Backspacer. And of course I know you're not trying to piss anyone off. Maybe I have become a cynical PJ fan. Like an old school Metallica fan who can't stand their post And Justice For All albums. That's what I'm sort of becoming with PJ and it's a bummer. And it's not like I hate all the songs or anything...but nothing really interests me either. I really like World Wide Suicide. Comatose and Severed Hand I like as well. A few Riot Act songs have become nice things to hear in a live set. But the rest of self-titled and all of Backspacer...I just can't get into it.
Take Come Back for instance. I can't stand it. It's just way too soft and boring for me as Pearl Jam song. I'm not into folk-hero Eddie: Just Breathe, The End, Thumbing My Way, Gone.....I just can't get into this stuff. And that's just me, I know some people would take those songs over a lot of songs. And it's not that I don't like their ballads because I think stuff like Off He Goes and All Those Yesterdays is great. But this stuff just doesn't grab me.
Now on to the rockers...this is where Pearl Jam is losing me the most. The Fixer is the cheesiest thing the band has ever done. It makes Third Eye Blind and Matchbox 20 sound "heavy" by comparison. But that's just one song....there's also generic, uninspired filler tracks like Gonna See My Friend, Johnny Guitar, Unemployable, Big Wave. The chorus of Gonna See My Friend in particular....just awful.
I dunno, I was just really bummed with Backspacer because I thought S/T was a sign of them getting their hard edge back (or maybe even trying for a harder edge). And Backspacer couldn't be further from that. Ya got Stone throwing words like "pop" around and Mike saying that they're open to writing singles specifically for radio play. Whatever. I will look forward to their next album just like I always have.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 wrote:No, it's not too bad for me because there are hundred of songs that give me that feeling. I think Inside Job...like All or None, is a totally anti-climatic album closer. I remember reading posts when it came out calling it "epic" and comparing it to Stairway To Heaven. I couldn't disagree more....but to each their own I guess.
"Inside Job" is opposed to the climate? I think you meant to say "anti-climactic."I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 wrote:Ledbetterman10 wrote:No, it's not too bad for me because there are hundred of songs that give me that feeling. I think Inside Job...like All or None, is a totally anti-climatic album closer. I remember reading posts when it came out calling it "epic" and comparing it to Stairway To Heaven. I couldn't disagree more....but to each their own I guess.
"Inside Job" is opposed to the climate? I think you meant to say "anti-climactic."
Dude....................I left out one letter. Come on.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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