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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Oh well.... So much for going to any shows in europe,and when did it change from Global Warming to Climate Change ? :?

    the earth is warming - you cannot deny this fact ... it's called climate change now because people just assume that the impacts are that the weather will just get warmer ... so, to appease people who cannot understand what the implications are for a warmer earth - they changed the phrasing to climate change because ultimately that is the primary consequence with a myriad of impacts ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Im sorry to inform you ,but the earth is cooling and it has been for the last 10 years.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im sorry to inform you ,but the earth is cooling and it has been for the last 10 years.

    please show me proof of this
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/glob ... 90591.html
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im sorry to inform you ,but the earth is cooling and it has been for the last 10 years.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8400905.stm
    This decade 'warmest on record'
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_ice_age/2008/04/24/90591.html

    understand that you are posting links not from scientists and that the sources your source refers to do not reconcile ...

    your article refers to the Goddard Institute - this is what they are reporting for global temperatures

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

    i suppose your rebuttal is that these are the same people that are conspiring to tax you to your death ... which is fine - just understand that your entire foundation is not based on science - just commentary from conservative think tanks ...

    again - feel free to educate yourself on the other side of this coin ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Oh really ? Phil Chapman's not a scientist ? :roll: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/so ... 1116134873

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Chapman

    Look man ...with all due respect we can go back and forth all day long,and you are entitled to your opinion and so is jenwah. I just happen to be more of a skeptic. I can't understand how you cant think that maybe we should take another look at things since all those the e mails came out. Especially anything from the University of Angila's c.r.u. which is where the icuu and the EPA have been getting all their data from. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that carbon dioxide is bad to.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Oh really ? Phil Chapman's not a scientist ? :roll: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/so ... 1116134873

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Chapman

    Look man ...with all due respect we can go back and forth all day long,and you are entitled to your opinion and so is jenwah. I just happen to be more of a skeptic. I can't understand how you cant think that maybe we should take another look at things since all those the e mails came out. Especially anything from the University of Angila's c.r.u. which is where the icuu and the EPA have been getting all their data from. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that carbo dioxide is bad to.


    because the planet warming or cooling is irrelevant compared to the fact that pollution is bad for us and the environment and many, many people develop health afflictions because of it (not to mention the animals that die because of it like polar bears drowning)

    and then there's things like this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbsMlr9WRI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUlWXWQxbs

    you can't debate if the ice caps are melting, that is just fact and if they disappear so will we and it won't matter a damn if the planet was warming or cooling
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Oh really ? Phil Chapman's not a scientist ? :roll: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/so ... 1116134873

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Chapman

    Look man ...with all due respect we can go back and forth all day long,and you are entitled to your opinion and so is jenwah. I just happen to be more of a skeptic. I can't understand how you cant think that maybe we should take another look at things since all those the e mails came out. Especially anything from the University of Angila's c.r.u. which is where the icuu and the EPA have been getting all their data from. I suppose next you're gonna tell me that carbon dioxide is bad to.

    1. he's a physicist ... he's not a climate scientist ... even so - his methodology for determining the earth is cooling is beyond flawed ...

    2. the difference between you and i is i have studied climate change and i've read all the things that skeptics have posted - they don't reconcile ... whereas it is clear you have not read the "other side"

    3. again - if all you got is some emails taken out of context - you are grasping at straws ... there is a reason why nothing's come out of those emails ... it was a smear job and only people who are desperate for a branch are grasping at it ...

    we have shown you proof the planet is warming ... maybe you should be a skeptic with regards to your sources
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    http://benbalbo.com/2009/06

    this explains partially why their thinking is flawed ...

    and even better ...

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher- ... 1116188676
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html



    Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges
    Copenhagen is preparing for the climate change summit that will produce as much carbon dioxide as a town the size of Middlesbrough.
    Hypocrites...and just the beginning..if they get there way they will tax the shit out of us while they go on living in excess .....you think they ever heard of conference on the net, web cams?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Funny how we've resorted to just posting links from the internet now. You can find all kinds of crap on the internet. :lol:
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Funny how we've resorted to just posting links from the internet now. You can find all kinds of crap on the internet. :lol:

    Your right! It's a Bunch of Crap.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    aerial wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Funny how we've resorted to just posting links from the internet now. You can find all kinds of crap on the internet. :lol:

    Your right! It's a Bunch of Crap.
    But climate change is very real. Actually to really debate this topic, we really should probably stick to the scientific facts...
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    Jeanwah wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Funny how we've resorted to just posting links from the internet now. You can find all kinds of crap on the internet. :lol:

    Your right! It's a Bunch of Crap.
    But climate change is very real. Actually to really debate this topic, we really should probably stick to the scientific facts...

    Which ones?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    aerial wrote:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html



    Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges
    Copenhagen is preparing for the climate change summit that will produce as much carbon dioxide as a town the size of Middlesbrough.
    Hypocrites...and just the beginning..if they get there way they will tax the shit out of us while they go on living in excess .....you think they ever heard of conference on the net, web cams?

    totally - i don't know about web conferences but for sure - there needs to be some effort made ...
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Shawshank wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    aerial wrote:

    Your right! It's a Bunch of Crap.
    But climate change is very real. Actually to really debate this topic, we really should probably stick to the scientific facts...

    Which ones?
    Any science journal would suffice.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Whatever people believe, they'll find a way to prove. That is why I preach "model agnosticism"; I Believe in Nothing. As we have seen with "climategate" - belief is the death of intelligence.

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    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    he still stands wrote:
    Whatever people believe, they'll find a way to prove. That is why I preach "model agnosticism"; I Believe in Nothing. As we have seen with "climategate" - belief is the death of intelligence.

    conspiracy.jpg

    That looks like Woody Harrelson from 2012, speaking of weather. They're some awesome waves in California and Hawaii, I'd love to be there to watch not to ride. Dem some HUGE waves. :D

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Scientific organizations that have issued statements supporting the premise of man made climate change:

    The IPCC
    The National Academy of Science in the USA along with the counterparts in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, Canada, Russia, China, Brazil, and India in joint statements
    The US National Research Council
    The American Association of the Advancement of Science
    American Geophysical Union
    European Federation of Geologists
    Geological Society of America
    Geological Society of Australia
    National Association of Geoscience Teachers
    American Meteorological Society
    Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
    Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
    Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
    Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
    World Meteorological Organization
    American Quaternary Association
    International Union for Quaternary Research
    American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
    American Society for Microbiology
    Australian Coral Reef Society
    Institute of Biology (UK)
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American College of Preventive Medicine
    American Medical Association
    American Public Health Association
    Australian Medical Association
    World Federation of Public Health Associations
    World Health Organization
    American Astronomical Society
    American Chemical Society
    American Institute of Physics
    American Physical Society
    American Statistical Association
    American Institute of Professional Geologists
    Canadian Federation of Earth Sciences

    The American Association of Petroleum Geologists (the oil industry) was in denial until 2007 when they became noncommittal.

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