2005 vs 2009 shows

zootown
zootown Posts: 666
edited December 2009 in The Porch
I know alot of folks have been praising the band for the recent run of shows, some of you have even said that in their opinion, some of the gigs were the best they had seen. I have listened and attended several of the boots/shows, and well I have to say it; I don't think this tour was nearly as good as 2005. this was only 4 years ago. Sure, there have been a good chunk of rarities played and the band is clearly loving life right now, but musically, I thought the 2005 shows were FAR superior. I first saw PJ in 92, and I have to say, the 2005 shows were the best I have ever seen....any thoughts?
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  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Philly '05 is the best PJ show I've been to. Freaking fantastic.
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  • Philly 05 stands as one of my favorite PJ shows of all time...

    but this may be b/c it was the day before I left town to marry my best friend and PJ concert soulmate.
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  • zootown
    zootown Posts: 666
    DeLukin wrote:
    Philly '05 is the best PJ show I've been to. Freaking fantastic.


    No shit! AND....the infamous Gorge show with the acoustic set and almost every Canadian show was incredible, not to mention I saw the Tester Benefit show in Missoula (a very underrated show) that was incredible. There have been some pretty mediocre shows this past tour, I think mostly due to Eddie's vocal range getting smaller and just a tad less reliable than I am used to.
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  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    As a tour- I think 2005 was better than 2009. But, I think there were a couple shows from 2009 that were top 10 all-time (10/30, 10/31, London 02 show)
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    i saw 5 shows in '05 and 4 of them rank in my top 10 pj shows of all time (out of 40+). having pj in my backyard for a 4-night run was pretty nice this year, though, too. :D
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    DeLukin wrote:
    Philly '05 is the best PJ show I've been to. Freaking fantastic.

    Definitely a fav, Spectrum 03 was pretty intense as well and forgotten.
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    marcos wrote:
    DeLukin wrote:
    Philly '05 is the best PJ show I've been to. Freaking fantastic.

    Definitely a fav, Spectrum 03 was pretty intense as well and forgotten.
    it's not forgotten! i still rank that above all of the '09 spectrum shows!
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Philly 05 stands as one of my favorite PJ shows of all time...

    but this may be b/c it was the day before I left town to marry my best friend and PJ concert soulmate.
    A great point. Setlist, sound and band/crowd energy are only part of the equation when judging shows. Personal experience does matter which is probably why consensus is tough to come by on these types of threads...
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  • this was so easy...
    ARGENTINA..2005.!!!!!!!!!

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  • Mcam55
    Mcam55 Posts: 1,407
    the 05 & 09 shows stand out for me over everything else ive seen. Ottawa and Philly were amazing. Its too tough to choose.
  • zootown
    zootown Posts: 666
    DeLukin wrote:
    Philly 05 stands as one of my favorite PJ shows of all time...

    but this may be b/c it was the day before I left town to marry my best friend and PJ concert soulmate.
    A great point. Setlist, sound and band/crowd energy are only part of the equation when judging shows. Personal experience does matter which is probably why consensus is tough to come by on these types of threads...


    Point taken. I guess to me setlist, musical integrity and energy and Eddie's attitude/vocal range is usually how I rank shows. Crowd/personal experience seems like it is relevant only in the past several years in discussions of what the best show is. When I was seeing them in the mid-late 90's, they KILLED it everynight, regardless of what the crowd was doing. In fact, I remember a few times when the crowd was tame, Eddie would get pissed, which usually meant better vocal performances.
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  • Check out London from '05!
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    Check out London from '05!

    2nd best out of 16 I've been to...so good!
  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    this was so easy...
    ARGENTINA..2005.!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br0oiW2wQ1c

    True story! I have Argentina, Chile x 2 and a Brazil show from this run. Amazing atmosphere every time. 2009 wins the setlist battle hands down though :)
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,327
    Halifax '05, baby! Halifax '05! 8-)
  • Tone
    Tone Posts: 1,206
    I only saw them once in '05, in Toronto and it was amazing, but for me... nothing beats those 4 Philly shows in '09. No, I'd never seen them in Philly before but Philly 3 was just the most incredible concert experience of my life and very closely followed by Philly 4, 1 & 2.
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  • rattzey
    rattzey Posts: 877
    Gorge 05, Calgary and Halifax were epic
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  • Spencer
    Spencer Posts: 867
    If we're comparing the two, I think the 2005 tour wins out easily.

    However...

    The band's live peak was 1992-2000. Nothing since touches that.

    *ducks*

    Sure, they have a lot more fun up on stage these days (or seem to), but they'll never match the tightness and intensity of those shows.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,367
    2009 way better for me now they have way more material to cover it's not even close in that dept :)
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  • wahine
    wahine Posts: 86
    I loved hearing the new songs at the Philly 3 show, but Philly 05 shines above the rest. The Crazy Mary equipment blow up, Crown of Thorns...The boys were at their best!
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