2005 vs 2009 shows
I know alot of folks have been praising the band for the recent run of shows, some of you have even said that in their opinion, some of the gigs were the best they had seen. I have listened and attended several of the boots/shows, and well I have to say it; I don't think this tour was nearly as good as 2005. this was only 4 years ago. Sure, there have been a good chunk of rarities played and the band is clearly loving life right now, but musically, I thought the 2005 shows were FAR superior. I first saw PJ in 92, and I have to say, the 2005 shows were the best I have ever seen....any thoughts?
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but this may be b/c it was the day before I left town to marry my best friend and PJ concert soulmate.
No shit! AND....the infamous Gorge show with the acoustic set and almost every Canadian show was incredible, not to mention I saw the Tester Benefit show in Missoula (a very underrated show) that was incredible. There have been some pretty mediocre shows this past tour, I think mostly due to Eddie's vocal range getting smaller and just a tad less reliable than I am used to.
Definitely a fav, Spectrum 03 was pretty intense as well and forgotten.
ARGENTINA..2005.!!!!!!!!!
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Point taken. I guess to me setlist, musical integrity and energy and Eddie's attitude/vocal range is usually how I rank shows. Crowd/personal experience seems like it is relevant only in the past several years in discussions of what the best show is. When I was seeing them in the mid-late 90's, they KILLED it everynight, regardless of what the crowd was doing. In fact, I remember a few times when the crowd was tame, Eddie would get pissed, which usually meant better vocal performances.
2nd best out of 16 I've been to...so good!
True story! I have Argentina, Chile x 2 and a Brazil show from this run. Amazing atmosphere every time. 2009 wins the setlist battle hands down though
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
However...
The band's live peak was 1992-2000. Nothing since touches that.
*ducks*
Sure, they have a lot more fun up on stage these days (or seem to), but they'll never match the tightness and intensity of those shows.
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PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
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PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
If you would have said this in 2004, I would have agreed. But in 2005, they just seemed SO on top of their game. They could play ANY song at ANY time and not miss a beat. I know now they can still do it, but I think (and I know that I am not alone on this) that at times Eddie struggles vocally, where in 2005 it was automatic! Did they play a mediocre or bad show in 2005? I thought there was more than one show on the 2009 tour that were pretty sub par by PJ standards (Sydney, Seattle I....)
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As a Canadian, the '05 tour was special. Many of the cities they played in were places that I didn't think would ever see PJ (Thunder Bay, Saskatoon, Kitchener, London, St. Johns, etc.) and mot of those venues were about half the size of a typical PJ arena show. The band had a great time, were in a great spirits for the whole tour and played some amazing high energy shows. The set lists were very good although there did seem to be quite a bit of repetition in many of the 6 shows that I saw. I wouldn't trade my PJ experience in Kitchener, Ottawa or London for anything! All 3 were amazing shows.
The '09 tour was absolutely amazing in terms of the band's energy, hearing new material, some interesting venues (Gibson, Spectrum, finally Seattle proper), and most of all amazing setlists. Before this year I had seen 31 shows and there were a number of songs that I honestly had given up on ever hearing live ~ No Way, All Those Yesterdays, Of The Girl, Hold On, Alone, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, Mankind, the list goes on and on... I heard all of these songs at least once this year. The variation of the setlist was better than ever this year, even if you take the abandoned Philly experiment out of the equation.
Every show I saw in '09 was amazing, beginning with PJ's best ever hometown show that I've seen (Toronto), then two amazing high energy and very special Chicago shows. The Seattle shows were great. LA 3 an 4 were two of the best shows ever. Bar none. San Diego was amazing. And all 4 Philly shows were spectacular. And those are just the shows I was at. Looking at everything from Vancouver to SLC to Berlin to 02 to the Aussie and NZ shows - EVERY SINGLE SHOW in '09 was spectacular in its own way.
I would take '09 over '05 hands down. And I never thought that the '05 tour would be replaced as my most memorable tour.
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And as far as this past run here in Philly, I don’t know, they were on FIRE. The Friday night show was the favorite of the four for me.
I think a couple of the shows they did in Canada rank up there as well.
I really don’t think it’s comparable, it’s all about the total experience for the individual.