Will the economy piss people off enough for them to riot?
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:No....
Have a nice day commy....
Keep fighting the fight....
Whatever the fuck that fight may be.....
you don't want to or you can't?
condescend me and then run and hide. nice.
you're and idiot, and you just proved it.0 -
Again commy....Commy wrote:SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:No....
Have a nice day commy....
Keep fighting the fight....
Whatever the fuck that fight may be.....
you don't want to or you can't?
condescend me and then run and hide. nice.
you're and idiot, and you just proved it.
Have a nice day....Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....0 -
i will.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
Again commy....Commy wrote:SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:No....
Have a nice day commy....
Keep fighting the fight....
Whatever the fuck that fight may be.....
you don't want to or you can't?
condescend me and then run and hide. nice.
you're and idiot, and you just proved it.
Have a nice day....
thanks.
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[quote="Commy"
good point
what has protesting ever done?
besides minimum wage, workers rights, women rights, minority rights, voting rights, representative government..judicial process, human rights....
you're right. THIS time we should all stay home and look at ourselves in the mirror.[/quote]
None of those were given due to direct protesting alone, and a lot of those things you listed were past for other reasons then the general interest in the public. Minority rights took 150 years in the making, womens rights only came around because they need to increase the voting pool. Protesting comes in the form of votes. Thats why the senior population still hold heavy influence, they vote. Most protesters are college aged kids thats barely make it to the voting booth to vote for the President, and just do it because its the in thing to do. Most barely have any concept of what they are protesting about, and usually aren't looked at with any kind of respect by the rest of the voting population that works and has actual life experience.
The dems payed attention to this and pandered to the youth this time around with an anti-war theme....and we aren't cutting and running from A-Stan or Iraq any time soon.BRING BACK THE WHALE0 -
musicismylife78 wrote:with the war, people never personalized it. A vast majority of people may be against both wars, but it doesnt touch many peoples lives, as no draft was ever ordered.
With the economy though, people do seem to personalize it, as I said before. Not too many people's next door neighbor is fighting in iraq or afghanistan. But we all know someone, maybe its ourselves, maybe its the neighbor, maybe its the people down the street, who are having a hard time right now.
Thats the difference I think. The fact that the economy is affecting tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions even, while the war, affects a small number of people.
As I said, I sense rage, and anger, that tops anything I ever saw reguarding the war in iraq, in terms of the economy. And its from both sides of the aisle.
this is not as bad as the great depression and nobody rioted then and we're a lot more docile and sedate now than we were then. nothing is going to happen.0 -
OffHeGoes29 wrote:South of Seattle wrote:We're the laziest fattest country in the World.
Any one play the New Modern Warfare yet? It's pretty bad ass.
I don't know if thats a true statement....
the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.0 -
OffHeGoes29 wrote:Most protesters are college aged kids thats barely make it to the voting booth to vote for the President, and just do it because its the in thing to do. Most barely have any concept of what they are protesting about, and usually aren't looked at with any kind of respect by the rest of the voting population that works and has actual life experience.
i'm so tired of this bullshit statement. i hold the same beliefs now i held when i was in high school, college, working world, grad school, and now career. if you are so fucking convinced that any opinion held by someone aged 18-22 is completely invalid and worthless becos they don't have "actual life experience", why let them vote at all? i know people in their 50s who've never had a real life experience, you don't try to say they don't deserve to be heard. :roll:0 -
soulsinging wrote:the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.
that is because america is also the most consumer-based society out there - everybody believes they need to have things they really don't ... also, the life cycle of everything is ridiculously small that people are replacing things that should last a long time every few years ...0 -
polaris_x wrote:soulsinging wrote:the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.
that is because america is also the most consumer-based society out there - everybody believes they need to have things they really don't ... also, the life cycle of everything is ridiculously small that people are replacing things that should last a long time every few years ...
planned obsolescence... god bless the auto industry. make it cheaper to buy new than repair something. you double your profits and wipe out the backbone of the economy... middle class skilled workers.0 -
Oh, so we should shut the fuck up and pretend that we have no say what's going on in the world? Silence is the enemy, and the day we all just keep to ourselves and focus on "moi" is the day we give up on everything we've fought so hard to get where we currently are, not to mention take for granted.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
People can blame the government ...OffHeGoes29 wrote:Protesting hasn't done a thing to stop the war(s) and no one will protest the condition of the economy. People with lives actually go out and find another job instead of protesting.
People can blame the economy.......
People can blame others....
People can come up with 1,000 excuses......
But most people just need to take a good look in the mirror to find out why their lives are fucked up.......0 -
soulsinging wrote:polaris_x wrote:soulsinging wrote:the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.
that is because america is also the most consumer-based society out there - everybody believes they need to have things they really don't ... also, the life cycle of everything is ridiculously small that people are replacing things that should last a long time every few years ...
planned obsolescence... god bless the auto industry. make it cheaper to buy new than repair something. you double your profits and wipe out the backbone of the economy... middle class skilled workers.
Yeah, when was the last time you saw a TV repair store or a shoe repair store? People just throw them out and buy a new one.
And even if you do fix something, with all of the internet resources out there, you can do it yourself. My father-in-law's newer rear projection TV kept burning out light bulbs... after changing a couple, he found some internet message boards and websites that walked him through things to check and replace, and with a couple parts he ordered, he fixed it himself.
There was this old luggage repair store that I passed everyday... I always thought to myself "how many people would even fix a suitcase these days?" Sure enough, about 2 months ago, the store closed. Unless you have a nice expensive luggage set, why pay $30 for a new zipper or wheel, when you can go to kmart and buy a new 4 piece set for $50? And really, what is the point of having expensive luggage, when it just gets beat to shit by the airlines anyway?My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln0 -
What is it that you have fought so hard to get, that you are afraid of losing?Jeanwah wrote:
Oh, so we should shut the fuck up and pretend that we have no say what's going on in the world? Silence is the enemy, and the day we all just keep to ourselves and focus on "moi" is the day we give up on everything we've fought so hard to get where we currently are, not to mention take for granted.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
People can blame the government ...OffHeGoes29 wrote:Protesting hasn't done a thing to stop the war(s) and no one will protest the condition of the economy. People with lives actually go out and find another job instead of protesting.
People can blame the economy.......
People can blame others....
People can come up with 1,000 excuses......
But most people just need to take a good look in the mirror to find out why their lives are fucked up.......
And I dont remember saying that people should shut the fuck up.Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....0 -
We didn't get this far (civil rights movement, the suffragettes for women's voting rights, etc that commy already mentioned) by keeping our mouths shut and "obeying" our gov't. You didn't come out and blatantly say we should shut the fuck up, but your statement pretty much sums that up. And look at ourselves? I think we're already quite narcissistic as a nation already as it is...SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
What is it that you have fought so hard to get, that you are afraid of losing?Jeanwah wrote:
Oh, so we should shut the fuck up and pretend that we have no say what's going on in the world? Silence is the enemy, and the day we all just keep to ourselves and focus on "moi" is the day we give up on everything we've fought so hard to get where we currently are, not to mention take for granted.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:People can blame the government ...
People can blame the economy.......
People can blame others....
People can come up with 1,000 excuses......
But most people just need to take a good look in the mirror to find out why their lives are fucked up.......
And I dont remember saying that people should shut the fuck up.0 -
I think we're labeled the laziest because after being overworked, we become vegetables and are only capable of sitting in front of our TVs watching American Idol. No energy left. It happened to me, until I took control of the situation and left the company overworking me. I'm much healthier now.soulsinging wrote:South of Seattle wrote:We're the laziest fattest country in the World.
the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.
We're a time-sick country, as not only our work/life balance out of whack, but also, no rules in regarding worker time off, vacation, sick time or maternity leave. Also, there's typically no laws as to how long your company can make you work per shift. The airline industry just now put into effect that pilots cannot work 18+ hr. shifts anymore. Makes you feel safe now knowing that your pilot isn't exhausted from being overworked, now huh? I know, I'm rambling and off topic.Post edited by Jeanwah on0 -
Exactly...Jeanwah wrote:
I think we're labeled the laziest because after being overworked, we become vegetables and are only capable of sitting in front of our TVs watching American Idol. No energy left. It happened to me, until I took control of the situation and left the company overworking me. I'm much healthier now.soulsinging wrote:South of Seattle wrote:We're the laziest fattest country in the World.
the fattest part is true. the laziest is only half true. there is a lot of entitlement, but we're also incredibly overworked in america. we have the worst work-life balance in the western world. americans define themselves by their job/career to an unhealthy extent. plus our cost of living has become so high, a household needs 2 incomes just to pay bills.
We're a time-sick country, as not only our work/life balance out of whack, but also, no rules in regarding worker time off, vacation, sick time or maternity leave. Also, there's typically no laws as to how long your company can make you work per shift. The airline industry just now put into effect that pilots cannot work 18 hr. shifts anymore. Makes you feel safe now knowing that your pilot isn't exhausted from being overworked, now huh? I know, I'm rambling and off topic.
YOU took a look in the mirror....
You took control of your situation...
You did what YOU thought was best for you......
And most companies follow the 8 hour work day/40 hour work week....right???
Its been that way for quite some time....right??
Dont most companies have a policy of one weeks vacation after your first year of employment?
Isnt maternity leave taken care of by the FMLA???
Or am I missing something???Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....0 -
More and more companies, esp. now during a recession will work their existing workers harder so they don't have to hire more help, that's common right now. I worked for a challenging publishing co. that wanted their employees to work no less than 110%, not giving holidays off (having to use vacation time to take them off, because "someone may want to work rather than take time off") and offering only salaries so that people were working longer and harder (and faster) only to get the same pay. MANY companies do this. Work the Hell out of their people without added pay.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
YOU took a look in the mirror....
You took control of your situation...
You did what YOU thought was best for you......
And most companies follow the 8 hour work day/40 hour work week....right???
Its been that way for quite some time....right??
Dont most companies have a policy of one weeks vacation after your first year of employment?
Isnt maternity leave taken care of by the FMLA???
Or am I missing something???
8 hr/40 hr week? I'd love to work a job like that. I've never been able to get a job that looks out for the employee's health and family balance and only require that employees work 40 hrs per week. That's so yesterday. It's up to each individual company as to how much time they give employees off. The national law for maternity leave is 6 weeks off. Pfft. Simply not enough time. Some companies offer more, (larger companies) and FMLA is voluntary leave, no pay. Not everyone can afford that.0 -
Just curious...Jeanwah wrote:
More and more companies, esp. now during a recession will work their existing workers harder so they don't have to hire more help, that's common right now. I worked for a challenging publishing co. that wanted their employees to work no less than 110%, not giving holidays off (having to use vacation time to take them off, because "someone may want to work rather than take time off") and offering only salaries so that people were working longer and harder (and faster) only to get the same pay. MANY companies do this. Work the Hell out of their people without added pay.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
YOU took a look in the mirror....
You took control of your situation...
You did what YOU thought was best for you......
And most companies follow the 8 hour work day/40 hour work week....right???
Its been that way for quite some time....right??
Dont most companies have a policy of one weeks vacation after your first year of employment?
Isnt maternity leave taken care of by the FMLA???
Or am I missing something???
8 hr/40 hr week? I'd love to work a job like that. I've never been able to get a job that looks out for the employee's health and family balance and only require that employees work 40 hrs per week. That's so yesterday. It's up to each individual company as to how much time they give employees off. The national law for maternity leave is 6 weeks off. Pfft. Simply not enough time. Some companies offer more, (larger companies) and FMLA is voluntary leave, no pay. Not everyone can afford that.
After leaving the publishing company...
What line of work are you in now??Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....0 -
Back in printing. Both industries are a dying breed, however...SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
Just curious...Jeanwah wrote:
More and more companies, esp. now during a recession will work their existing workers harder so they don't have to hire more help, that's common right now. I worked for a challenging publishing co. that wanted their employees to work no less than 110%, not giving holidays off (having to use vacation time to take them off, because "someone may want to work rather than take time off") and offering only salaries so that people were working longer and harder (and faster) only to get the same pay. MANY companies do this. Work the Hell out of their people without added pay.SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
YOU took a look in the mirror....
You took control of your situation...
You did what YOU thought was best for you......
And most companies follow the 8 hour work day/40 hour work week....right???
Its been that way for quite some time....right??
Dont most companies have a policy of one weeks vacation after your first year of employment?
Isnt maternity leave taken care of by the FMLA???
Or am I missing something???
8 hr/40 hr week? I'd love to work a job like that. I've never been able to get a job that looks out for the employee's health and family balance and only require that employees work 40 hrs per week. That's so yesterday. It's up to each individual company as to how much time they give employees off. The national law for maternity leave is 6 weeks off. Pfft. Simply not enough time. Some companies offer more, (larger companies) and FMLA is voluntary leave, no pay. Not everyone can afford that.
After leaving the publishing company...
What line of work are you in now??0 -
Nope. And what good would rioting do?
Just look at the money that's spent every week at the Box Office and know that the economy is no where near as bad as it could be.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0
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