Obama + Health Care Bill = Corporate Profits
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aerial wrote:i dont know what state you live in, but here in ohio we get fined if we dont have car insurance.
If you choose not to drive in fla. you are not forced to buy insurance.[/quote]
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So... what you are saying is... if you choose not to get cancer... you shouldn't have to get Health insurance.
okay... that makes sense.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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soulsinging wrote:aerial wrote:If you don’t want to drive you don’t have to have auto insurance and you are not fined....I posted about the fine for not having health Insurance weeks ago and no one here believed me....yes us Tea Party people DO know what’s going on.....there even talking about jail time if you don’t pay the fine....and now we will be paying for health care that won’t even start till 2012. They could have tweaked the system we have already but they really don’t care about our health . . . they care about the dollar, that they preach is so bad ( hypocrites!) . . . this administration is feeding the public a line of shit, but some turn around an act as if the Tea Party movement is the bad guy . . . I don’t understand how people can’t see they are being taken.
This plan may not even be legal
I don’t want my country “fundamentally changed” I just want it Improved...
i dont know what state you live in, but here in ohio we get fined if we dont have car insurance.
even if you don't own a car???Thats a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?
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the car insurance analogy only works if you consider suicide an alternative to paying for health insurance.
Why? Because the logic leads us here: "Don't want to pay auto insurance? ok... don't drive. Don't want to pay health insurance? ok... don't live."Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.0 -
WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
you are paying people you don't trust to read pending legislation? you told me to educate myself last week yet you have not read it? if people really want to read it they will find the time, just like anything else."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
I'll just point out that it's you who claim to know stuff about this bill, and dodge all over the place when simply asked where it says so. It would seem you dont really know either, and that you have that talking point from somewhere else. You could at least tell your source for the information, even if you havent read the bill. I imagine few really have anyway. But by claiming ignorance in others, you should be able to present some knowledge yourself, and not just along the lines of "Obama is a socialist, socialists are bad, and the bill is thus bad. The bill thus says everything I would consider bad".
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
How long did it take you to read the bill?OutOfBreath wrote:aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
I'll just point out that it's you who claim to know stuff about this bill, and dodge all over the place when simply asked where it says so. It would seem you dont really know either, and that you have that talking point from somewhere else. You could at least tell your source for the information, even if you havent read the bill. I imagine few really have anyway. But by claiming ignorance in others, you should be able to present some knowledge yourself, and not just along the lines of "Obama is a socialist, socialists are bad, and the bill is thus bad. The bill thus says everything I would consider bad".
Peace
Dan“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
I havent read any of it. I'm not making any claims either.aerial wrote:
How long did it take you to read the bill?OutOfBreath wrote:aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
I'll just point out that it's you who claim to know stuff about this bill, and dodge all over the place when simply asked where it says so. It would seem you dont really know either, and that you have that talking point from somewhere else. You could at least tell your source for the information, even if you havent read the bill. I imagine few really have anyway. But by claiming ignorance in others, you should be able to present some knowledge yourself, and not just along the lines of "Obama is a socialist, socialists are bad, and the bill is thus bad. The bill thus says everything I would consider bad".
Peace
Dan
I was just pointing out that when you make claims, and are asked to back them up, you don't. Neither will you say from where you have that information. Instead you just flip it back "Have YOU read it", when the burden of proof is squarely on you as you make the claim.
So, since you claim it, where does it say mandatory, fines and jailtime? Or, if you havent read the bill (which is honest enough as those things are indigestible to any sane reader), from where you got that information. Then we can at least know from where the passed-along claim comes.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
I heard it on tv.“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0
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Cosmo wrote:
...aerial wrote:I heard it on tv.
and of course... everything that's on T.V. is truth.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/ ... n/1173560/
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...aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
My guess... you didn't even bother to look at it.
Because if you had, you'd have see how it is double spaced, Dr. Suess sized fonts and has a convenient Table of Contents and is not in the Glarkian translation of Martian text.
There is no 'Tearing down the entire system' in the bill... there is assistance to the uninsured. There are none of your Tea Party prison sentence lies.
Your message here is quite clear... you do not read... you watch. Instead of watching 'Dancing With the Stars' on television... you could have gone over it. But, you choose not to... and rely on the Congress that you hate and distrust to read it for you. Do you possess any critical thought processes or do you solely rely on others to tell you?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Cosmo wrote:
...aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
My guess... you didn't even bother to look at it.
Because if you had, you'd have see how it is double spaced, Dr. Suess sized fonts and has a convenient Table of Contents and is not in the Glarkian translation of Martian text.
There is no 'Tearing down the entire system' in the bill... there is assistance to the uninsured. There are none of your Tea Party prison sentence lies.
Your message here is quite clear... you do not read... you watch. Instead of watching 'Dancing With the Stars' on television... you could have gone over it. But, you choose not to... and rely on the Congress that you hate and distrust to read it for you. Do you possess any critical thought processes or do you solely rely on others to tell you?
Your wrong....and don't act as if you know me...I have read some but not all...how long did it take you to read it? I have never watched Dancing Stars.....I have my tv on the News 95% of the time....and not just Fox. Because I am open minded...I also read the paper daily....do you have anything Intelligent to post instead of talking shit about people you don’t know? .......Because my family comes first and I work I do not have the time to spend reading this except a little each day....and yes Congress is supposed to do there job don't you think.“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
...aerial wrote:Cosmo wrote:
...aerial wrote:WOW how long did it take you to read the bill? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Do you think tearing down the entire system is necessary? Why not help the uninsured? If that’s the problem?
After I work my full time job and get dinner together and get the home work done along with house cleaning and grocery shopping I will finish reading the bill. Oh, wait that is why I am paying congress.
My guess... you didn't even bother to look at it.
Because if you had, you'd have see how it is double spaced, Dr. Suess sized fonts and has a convenient Table of Contents and is not in the Glarkian translation of Martian text.
There is no 'Tearing down the entire system' in the bill... there is assistance to the uninsured. There are none of your Tea Party prison sentence lies.
Your message here is quite clear... you do not read... you watch. Instead of watching 'Dancing With the Stars' on television... you could have gone over it. But, you choose not to... and rely on the Congress that you hate and distrust to read it for you. Do you possess any critical thought processes or do you solely rely on others to tell you?
Your wrong....and don't act as if you know me...I have read some but not all...how long did it take you to read it? I have never watched Dancing Stars.....I have my tv on the News 95% of the time....and not just Fox. Because I am open minded...I also read the paper daily....do you have anything Intelligent to post instead of talking shit about people you don’t know? .......Because my family comes first and I work I do not have the time to spend reading this except a little each day....and yes Congress is supposed to do there job don't you think.
Nice... Family first... i'm sure their access to Health Care is a major issue. And since you are, by self-proclaimation, well read and up to date on current events, you should know...
WHERE in the Bill is the Section where I will be doing some jailtime if I don't participate? Where is the section that tears down the existing system? Where is the part that says we pay today, but do not get any benefits til 2012?
You declare these things to be true... and facts are truth. Show me the facts and i will believe you.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Prove me wrong.“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0
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I PAY for our health care by the way...“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0
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The ignorance displayed in this thread is astonishing.
And I'm only talking about a certain poster. :roll:NERDS!0 -
...aerial wrote:Prove me wrong.
I don't have to, because you have already proven yourself that you are wrong.
I provided the actual text of the Bill... and the bill does NOT include any of those false claims you are stating. Thus, the Facts are proving that you either are lying about it... or are completely misinformed because you choose to accept the words of your Tea Party cohorts as your (relative) truth.
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I don't have to prove anything... you are the proof that your Tea Party is full of shit.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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