Star Wars...a touching story about killing your children
Hammerdonkey
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If you think about it, there is only one story told in this trilogy (I say trilogy because the following 3 don't count as actual movies to me due to their level of suck). That story is about an angry man who will travel the lengths of the universe to find and kill his twins.
Other than that, there's really no story if you think about it. The Empire doesn't really do anything evil outside of blowing up a planet, which is pretty cruel. Beyond that, they waste a lot of time hunting for a handful of people. The Jedi don't really do anything good with their powers except for lift a space ship out of swamp water so a young partially homosexual boy can fly back to another planet. Thanks Yoda.
George Lucas....greatest prank ever pulled was his movies.
Other than that, there's really no story if you think about it. The Empire doesn't really do anything evil outside of blowing up a planet, which is pretty cruel. Beyond that, they waste a lot of time hunting for a handful of people. The Jedi don't really do anything good with their powers except for lift a space ship out of swamp water so a young partially homosexual boy can fly back to another planet. Thanks Yoda.
George Lucas....greatest prank ever pulled was his movies.
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I thought Vader didn't know he had kids? The Empire was suppressing planets' self-determination and suppressing the rebellion against them. They don't really show all the atrocities the Empire enacted, but we do know they rounded up Jedis and some others in a kind of 'purge'. So, there certainly was reason for there to be a rebel alliance. Vader was after Leia (on orders of the emperor) because she was leading the rebels, not because she was his daughter.24 years old, mid-life crisis
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AllNiteThing wrote:I thought Vader didn't know he had kids? The Empire was suppressing planets' self-determination and suppressing the rebellion against them. They don't really show all the atrocities the Empire enacted, but we do know they rounded up Jedis and some others in a kind of 'purge'. So, there certainly was reason for there to be a rebel alliance. Vader was after Leia (on orders of the emperor) because she was leading the rebels, not because she was his daughter.
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Dude, Vader was a Jedi/Sith Lord. He can sense a presence galaxies away. You trying to tell me he didn't know when he didn't pull out that he had left some DNA behind? Did he not see this girl he was banging accidentally in a club somewhere and notice she was a little pregnant? I would have asked some questions. I don't buy the fact that he didn't know he had kids. He also knew Luke was his son when he almost fell out of Cloud City and didn't seem to care as he watched him fall a million feet. Face it, Darth Vader is a terrible father.0
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Hammerdonkey wrote:Dude, Vader was a Jedi/Sith Lord. He can sense a presence galaxies away. You trying to tell me he didn't know when he didn't pull out that he had left some DNA behind? Did he not see this girl he was banging accidentally in a club somewhere and notice she was a little pregnant? I would have asked some questions. I don't buy the fact that he didn't know he had kids. He also knew Luke was his son when he almost fell out of Cloud City and didn't seem to care as he watched him fall a million feet. Face it, Darth Vader is a terrible father.
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Hammerdonkey wrote:Dude, Vader was a Jedi/Sith Lord. He can sense a presence galaxies away. You trying to tell me he didn't know when he didn't pull out that he had left some DNA behind? Did he not see this girl he was banging accidentally in a club somewhere and notice she was a little pregnant? I would have asked some questions. I don't buy the fact that he didn't know he had kids. He also knew Luke was his son when he almost fell out of Cloud City and didn't seem to care as he watched him fall a million feet. Face it, Darth Vader is a terrible father.
vader knew about luke. you think he went back to tattooine just to see his old school chums???
amidala wasnt someone anakin was just banging in a spaceclub somewhere. they were married.
he didnt need to save luke when he fell out of bespin. he knew the millenium falcon was close by and besides it gave him an opportuntiy to discover he had a daughter. if he didnt know already. he most probably sensed the rise in midichlorian levels in amidala before he killed her and thought the baby she was carrying was quite a powerful jedi in the making. but what it was was double midis due to twins. anyways after the emperor told him he killed amidala i imagine he figured any unborn child would have died with her. who put the notion in anakins head that he had a child out there somewhere is anyones guess.hear my name
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catefrances wrote:vader knew about luke. you think he went back to tattooine just to see his old school chums???
when did vader ever step foot on tattooine? the empire was sent there to recover the escape pod that had r2 & c3po in it.0 -
singularity wrote:catefrances wrote:vader knew about luke. you think he went back to tattooine just to see his old school chums???
when did vader ever step foot on tattooine? the empire was sent there to recover the escape pod that had r2 & c3po in it.
i was using vader as being representative of the empire. not literally.hear my name
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Darth Vader once struck out Pete Rose in an intergallactic All-Star game. Willie Stargell went 2-3.
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I find your lack of faith disturbing..Hammerdonkey wrote:If you think about it, there is only one story told in this trilogy (I say trilogy because the following 3 don't count as actual movies to me due to their level of suck). That story is about an angry man who will travel the lengths of the universe to find and kill his twins.
Other than that, there's really no story if you think about it. The Empire doesn't really do anything evil outside of blowing up a planet, which is pretty cruel. Beyond that, they waste a lot of time hunting for a handful of people. The Jedi don't really do anything good with their powers except for lift a space ship out of swamp water so a young partially homosexual boy can fly back to another planet. Thanks Yoda.
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Actually - the story in star wars is really quite good. Lucas just had a hard time telling the story0
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I hated Star Wars, as well as Star Trek. My son is 34 and was a little boy when the first Star Wars came around. He loved it all his life, even today. I found it boring and it costed me a lot of money. I bought all the people and ships and whatever. By the way, my son has the original figures of the people.
Anyway, I never liked the 3 Stooges either. I think my mind must be different than so many others 'cuz I hate all that stuff so many others love.Save room for dessert!0 -
Heather, all I can say is it takes a huge pair to criticize the comedic stylings of the Three Stooges. I mean, Star Wars is just plain embarrassing to me as a grown man but the Stooges are an American institution. I admire your honesty. You are an inspiration to those who fear the sound of their own voice.
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Hammerdonkey wrote:Heather, all I can say is it takes a huge pair to criticize the comedic stylings of the Three Stooges. I mean, Star Wars is just plain embarrassing to me as a grown man but the Stooges are an American institution. I admire your honesty. You are an inspiration to those who fear the sound of their own voice.
P.S. Star Wars is gay.
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LOL! My own voice wasn't being heard, at least not by me, I typed those words.Hammerdonkey wrote:Heather, all I can say is it takes a huge pair to criticize the comedic stylings of the Three Stooges. I mean, Star Wars is just plain embarrassing to me as a grown man but the Stooges are an American institution. I admire your honesty. You are an inspiration to those who fear the sound of their own voice.
P.S. Star Wars is gay.
Oh by the way, Did you read that Soupy Sales died...now he was funny.
C'mon, you really find the 3 stooges form of comedy funny? Its grade school.Save room for dessert!0 -
Thank You.Ledbetterman10 wrote:Hammerdonkey wrote:Heather, all I can say is it takes a huge pair to criticize the comedic stylings of the Three Stooges. I mean, Star Wars is just plain embarrassing to me as a grown man but the Stooges are an American institution. I admire your honesty. You are an inspiration to those who fear the sound of their own voice.
P.S. Star Wars is gay.
Moe, Larry, and Shemp are tolerable if you watch them once in a a while but anyone who is entertained by Curly is fucking brain-dead.Save room for dessert!0 -
I think you all are taking this all a bit too seriously. I have passion about stuff that really matters. Those things do not include Star Wars and men throwing pie at each other. Come on folks, have some sense. Nothing truly matters except your children's happiness. All the rest of this crap is done to pass the time until we die.
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LOL! I know. I did however spend a lot on that crap. And I never saw the entertainment in it. Oh and entertainement is important. I cannot imagine a world that everything is serious. Sometimes just watching jerry Springer is enough to take me out of all the bad things in the world and laugh.Hammerdonkey wrote:I think you all are taking this all a bit too seriously. I have passion about stuff that really matters. Those things do not include Star Wars and men throwing pie at each other. Come on folks, have some sense. Nothing truly matters except your children's happiness. All the rest of this crap is done to pass the time until we die.
Use that noggin people.Save room for dessert!0 -
I forgot to include the Dallas Cowboys, a college playoff system, Fedor's incredible fighting skills and Eddie Murphy in my list of things that are important.
Star Wars is equal in importance to Burt Reynolds' mustache from 1978.0 -
MrMerkinball wrote:Actually - the story in star wars is really quite good. Lucas just had a hard time telling the story
thats cause lucas wrote for 12 year old boys. he admitted that himself. i think thats why im so disappointed with the prequels(ugh just saying that word makes me shudder). he forgot those 12 year old boys (and girls) grew up. i was 12 when starwars came out. heck im such a nerd all it takes is hearing thsoe first notes of the john willams theme and i get teary. thats what a big pull it was for me. and now of course my kids think im a freak cause i get so wrapped up in it. they just dont understand.
though admittedly ive got zoe aged 10 into robotchicken starwars. hear my name
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