the bible was written by god

soulsinging
soulsinging Posts: 13,202
edited December 2009 in A Moving Train
http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

we just have to tweak it a bit to make sure it fits our political agenda.

"This improperly encourages the "social justice" movement among Christians"

God forbid Christians support social justice... when did Jesus promote helping the poor at the expense of the rich? He was a free market capitalist for God's sakes! Don't you remember the scene where he found the moneylenders in the temple and helped them get their 401k's in order?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    jesus was a socialist
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    catefrances wrote:
    jesus was a socialist

    Amen!
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    The freaking Bible is too damn liberal.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    that was the biggest crock i have ever read. it says not to dumb it down, but it already seems kinda dumb to me. the poster above said it well, the bible is too liberal??? :shock: lol.....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    "Everyone knows reality has a strong liberal bias"
    - Stephen Colbert.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,828
    scb wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    jesus was a socialist

    Amen!

    From what I can tell, I don't think Jesus advocated government coercion in order to achieve social justice. If there is law, it is only natural law as put forth by God. He wants us all to be better people by loving each other, and being charitable completely voluntarily.

    According to Webster's online:

    so⋅cial⋅ism  /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Spelled Pronunciation [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]
    –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
    3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

    #1 makes no specific mention of government, unless you count "social organization" as government. It does mention "community."
    #2 does not apply.
    #3 mentions a transition to communism. Where some people believe true capitalism can exist with no government, and socialsim to be the bridge between this no-government and total government in communism:

    Also according to Webster,

    com⋅mu⋅nism  /ˈkɒmyəˌnɪzəm/ Spelled Pronunciation [kom-yuh-niz-uhm]
    –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
    2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
    3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.
    4. communalism.

    Then socialism, by definition must include some government involvement if it is the transition from zero government to state control.

    So, the first definition of "socialist" does fit with Jesus if "social organization" doesn't equate to be government.

    I like to think of HIM as The Libertarian with the biggest heart :D

    You wonder why there's so much fuss over this word, SOCIALISM these days? It has two official definitions that are really quite different from each other. But notice how close the first definition of communism and the first definition of socialism are? Identical, if it wasn't for communism being "the community as a whole OR TO THE STATE."

    You can see how it's not hard to equate those two words, either. People ought to underscore these words with which definition they're talking about when we use them, and maybe we wouldn't all get so angry with each other :)
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    I like to think of HIM (Jesus) as The Libertarian with the biggest heart :D

    Funny... I call myself a "sympathetic libertarian" so I guess me and Jesus are kinda similar in a lot of ways. :D
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,828
    he still stands wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    I like to think of HIM (Jesus) as The Libertarian with the biggest heart :D

    Funny... I call myself a "sympathetic libertarian" so I guess me and Jesus are kinda similar in a lot of ways. :D

    Most Libertarians I know fit this same description. We are very "DIY" (Do it yourself). In the absence of many forms of government (not all of them), there is a universal need to step it up as individuals to contribute to society through charity, service, etc... to help things run smoothly. The reasons for doing so are very community-oriented as well as pragmatic. It's the force of government that brings resentment, and what's worse is when our wages and property are taken from us forcefully, and used inefficiently, if not STOLEN. Then you have REAL resentment towards government.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I'd say Jesus was a Communist in the true meaning of the word, the definition describing communalism.
    com⋅mu⋅nism  /ˈkɒmyəˌnɪzəm/ Spelled Pronunciation [kom-yuh-niz-uhm]
    –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

    In many parts of the world, communalism is a modern term that describes a broad range of social movements and social theories which are in some way centered upon the community.

    He was more Communal than Socialist or Lib. Most Libs are not communal by nature.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    it is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    yeah, the liberal bias was added by us. clearly, this is a conservative, capitalist text.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    You're all wrong... Jesus was an ANARCHIST! :D
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    Jesus built my hot rod.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4X9yElG9Y
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I think this pretty much settles it...
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    http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    soulsinging wrote:
    Don't you remember the scene where he found the moneylenders in the temple and helped them get their 401k's in order?
    :lol::lol: ....good stuff.
    That page is funny, but this really stood out:

    Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.

    I think I may have to make my sig 'Accept the logic of Hell'....talk about an oxymoron.
  • Heatherj43
    Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    soulsinging wrote:
    it is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    yeah, the liberal bias was added by us. clearly, this is a conservative, capitalist text.
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
    Save room for dessert!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Some people have the most asinine, childish, ignorant, close-minded views on religion. I'm just saying.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Some people have the most asinine, childish, ignorant, close-minded views on religion. I'm just saying.

    So you see nothing wrong with this group explicitly devoting itself to attempting to spin the bible to better align with their politics? Isn't that kinda backwards, from a Christian perspective?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    know1 wrote:
    Some people have the most asinine, childish, ignorant, close-minded views on religion. I'm just saying.
    Are you referencing something/someone in this thread? Or in the OP's link?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    soulsinging wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Some people have the most asinine, childish, ignorant, close-minded views on religion. I'm just saying.

    So you see nothing wrong with this group explicitly devoting itself to attempting to spin the bible to better align with their politics? Isn't that kinda backwards, from a Christian perspective?

    I didn't even look at it. But from the sounds of it, they are definitely a part of the problem. The issue - as has been stated over and over and over - is that people look at these wacko groups and then generalize to all religion.

    Not sure about the whole rich/poor/socialist/capitalist thing, but I do know that my church is partnering this month to prepare, pack and ship 1 million meals in association with an organization called "Feed my Starving Children". We are pushing for 5000 volunteers to make this happen.

    It's just hard to be a part of things like that and hear people just totally - and ignorantly - trash you for things they have no clue.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Drowned Out wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Some people have the most asinine, childish, ignorant, close-minded views on religion. I'm just saying.
    Are you referencing something/someone in this thread? Or in the OP's link?

    I'm referencing a lot of things from the link, to this thread, to lots of other threads.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.

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