Mark Tremonti(Creed Guitarist) on Pearl Jam/Grunge Influence

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Some of you are surprised these people in Creed are nice people? Jeez, you are all like children. This band is more popular than my favorite band so I'm going to talk crap about them for a decade. Grow up. Move on wankers.

    I get your point.

    However, Scott Stapp IS a douchebag.
    And Creed DOES suck.

    That doesn't have anything to do with who is more popular than who. It just is.

    I have always liked Mark Tremonti, though. Not enough to buy anything he's ever produced, but still.
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  • HeavyHands
    HeavyHands Posts: 2,131
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You're confusing Scott Stapp's voice with Creed's sound. If you just listen to Creed's music instrumentally, it doesn't sound like anything Pearl Jam would play.

    The only reason people would make the Pearl Jam/Creed connection is because of Scott Stapp's voice.

    I completely concur with the above statements.

    I was working at an independent record store when Creed's first album was about to come out. Someone from their label's marketing dept was making the rounds by calling stores and trying to get people to give their first record a listen. My boss didn't feel like talking to her because he was busy. All I heard him say was "Oh, I've got just the person you should talk to." Then he handed me the phone and said "It's a label rep. She says if you like Pearl Jam you'll like this band called Creed."

    I was on the phone with her all of 30-45 seconds and her pitch to me was "So-and-so says you like Pearl Jam? You're going to love this band Creed. They sound just like Pearl Jam." And it went on from there.

    I remember thinking "Oh, okay! So they'll have awesome bluesy lead guitar solos and killer riffs and an incredibly talented bass player too..." So I said "I'll check them out. Thanks for the tip!" (Keep in mind that this was before I ever heard Creed.)

    Needless to say the first time I heard Creed I was simultaneously sorely disappointed and not-at-all shocked. I was sorely disappointed that this band Creed had absolutely none of the instrumental strength that PJ had. I was also not-at-all shocked that the sales pitch that this label rep had for me was based entirely on the middle register bellowing of Scott Stapp.

    Deep down I've always found it a little insulting when I've heard people compare these two bands or say they sound alike. They don't. Not at all. All you have to do is listen to the music to hear the differences.
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  • bootlegger10
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    slightofjeff wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Some of you are surprised these people in Creed are nice people? Jeez, you are all like children. This band is more popular than my favorite band so I'm going to talk crap about them for a decade. Grow up. Move on wankers.

    I get your point.

    However, Scott Stapp IS a douchebag.
    And Creed DOES suck.

    That doesn't have anything to do with who is more popular than who. It just is.

    I have always liked Mark Tremonti, though. Not enough to buy anything he's ever produced, but still.

    But how many threads do we need about it? And is it still 1999? Damn, it is 2009, we should have progressed further from this. Especially since this article quote has nothing insulting about PJ in it, yet this board still acts like little kids.
  • mattosborne
    mattosborne Posts: 339
    I actually don't hear much of an influence musically. Vocally, obviously Scott Stapp is a Ed rip-off. A bad one at that.
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  • bigbadbill
    bigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    I think I liked Creed for a minute in late 1997 (around the time Pearl Jam were finishing Yield).
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  • jubilairesjl
    jubilairesjl Posts: 498
    Musically, Creed doesn't sound like Pearl Jam because Pearl Jam has better musicians than Creed has. They just try to pull off the same style.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    But how many threads do we need about it? And is it still 1999? Damn, it is 2009, we should have progressed further from this. Especially since this article quote has nothing insulting about PJ in it, yet this board still acts like little kids.

    We are talking about a recent interview. That's why there is a new thread about it.

    In fact, I don't even see any other Creed-related threads around, at least at first glance.

    I totally get what you're saying, but this definitely one of those "Don't like it, don't click on it" situations.

    EDIT: There really isn't anything all that insulting on this thread, the likes of which you are talking about. Maybe one derogatory comment about Scott Stapp. Certainly nothing that warrants the knee-jerk response you gave, unless you are Scott Stapp's dad or something.
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  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    HeavyHands wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You're confusing Scott Stapp's voice with Creed's sound. If you just listen to Creed's music instrumentally, it doesn't sound like anything Pearl Jam would play.

    The only reason people would make the Pearl Jam/Creed connection is because of Scott Stapp's voice.

    I completely concur with the above statements.

    I was working at an independent record store when Creed's first album was about to come out. Someone from their label's marketing dept was making the rounds by calling stores and trying to get people to give their first record a listen. My boss didn't feel like talking to her because he was busy. All I heard him say was "Oh, I've got just the person you should talk to." Then he handed me the phone and said "It's a label rep. She says if you like Pearl Jam you'll like this band called Creed."

    I was on the phone with her all of 30-45 seconds and her pitch to me was "So-and-so says you like Pearl Jam? You're going to love this band Creed. They sound just like Pearl Jam." And it went on from there.

    I remember thinking "Oh, okay! So they'll have awesome bluesy lead guitar solos and killer riffs and an incredibly talented bass player too..." So I said "I'll check them out. Thanks for the tip!" (Keep in mind that this was before I ever heard Creed.)

    Needless to say the first time I heard Creed I was simultaneously sorely disappointed and not-at-all shocked. I was sorely disappointed that this band Creed had absolutely none of the instrumental strength that PJ had. I was also not-at-all shocked that the sales pitch that this label rep had for me was based entirely on the middle register bellowing of Scott Stapp.

    Deep down I've always found it a little insulting when I've heard people compare these two bands or say they sound alike. They don't. Not at all. All you have to do is listen to the music to hear the differences.

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    I managed to meet, greet and talk to Alter Bridge guys last year (I was wearing a red 10c PJ shirt :twisted: ) and to tell you the truth they were very nice and the show itself was fantastic! I hope this reunion :| won't put an end to the carreer of AB! :!:

    and yes, apart from Stapp's vocals Creed does differ a lot from the sound of our favourite band!
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  • youngster
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    A little off topic but couldn't that same argument be said for Darius Rucker when he was with Hootie and the Blowfish? I always thought he tried to sound like Ed when I first heard their album.
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    cropduster82 wrote:
    A little off topic but couldn't that same argument be said for Darius Rucker when he was with Hootie and the Blowfish? I always thought he tried to sound like Ed when I first heard their album.

    Absolutely. That band formed in 86 and its like they waited 8 years to pick a popular lead singer to impersonate before they released an album.

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