Iraqi shoe thrower

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I wonder what would happen if I through my shoe at one of his spiritual leaders...I'm sure they would be completely fine with it and I would only serve a jail sentence...yeah right.

    Depends on why you'd throw a shoe at a spiritual leader. Depends on what spiritual leader you chose to throw your shoe at. You make it sound like the fella just decided to throw his shoe at any random politician. I feel you're missing the point here. The people of Iraq had their country devastated with over a million people killed. Despite George W Bush being a moron who was probably up in his bedroom playing his Playstation when the big decisions were being made, he still represented to much of the world the person responsible for this carnage. The Iraqi people had, and continue to have, every right to feel angry. Throwing a shoe at this jackass was the least expression of their anger and frustration. I get the impression that you don't have much respect for Iraqi's?
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Cosmo wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    WHile I understand the sentiments...

    I don't think any idiot that throws shoes at someone (no matter the cultural significance) is any kind of hero. It was an idiot move by an idiot.

    I wonder what would happen if I through my shoe at one of his spiritual leaders...I'm sure they would be completely fine with it and I would only serve a jail sentence...yeah right.
    ...
    A better example... say you threw your shoe at Iran's President at a press conference in Washington, D.C.
    Sure, maybe the Iranians wouldn't be happy... but, you would definately be MY HERO!!!
    ...
    as for their spiritual leader... I wouldn't give a shit. and I'm guessing, most Americans wouldn't care, either.
    Yeah, that is a good example.

    Except for the fact that Ahmadinejad did not kill a million Americans and is not occupying the United States. He also does not support a nation like Israel that kills thousands upon thousands of innocent people. He is also not waging an illegal occupation in a country near here, killing thousands of those people as well. Should I keep going? The most Ahmadinejad has done was talk. And that has everyone up and going crazy. Now here is a guy like Bush who got a shoe thrown at him and people are actually trying to say the guy who threw the shoe should be punished for doing that? Are you kidding me? If there was any justice in this world, and I do not hesitate to say this, Bush would be hanged for his crimes well before any shoe was thrown at him.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    _outlaw wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    WHile I understand the sentiments...

    I don't think any idiot that throws shoes at someone (no matter the cultural significance) is any kind of hero. It was an idiot move by an idiot.

    I wonder what would happen if I through my shoe at one of his spiritual leaders...I'm sure they would be completely fine with it and I would only serve a jail sentence...yeah right.
    ...
    A better example... say you threw your shoe at Iran's President at a press conference in Washington, D.C.
    Sure, maybe the Iranians wouldn't be happy... but, you would definately be MY HERO!!!
    ...
    as for their spiritual leader... I wouldn't give a shit. and I'm guessing, most Americans wouldn't care, either.
    Yeah, that is a good example.

    Except for the fact that Ahmadinejad did not kill a million Americans and is not occupying the United States. He also does not support a nation like Israel that kills thousands upon thousands of innocent people. He is also not waging an illegal occupation in a country near here, killing thousands of those people as well. Should I keep going? The most Ahmadinejad has done was talk. And that has everyone up and going crazy. Now here is a guy like Bush who got a shoe thrown at him and people are actually trying to say the guy who threw the shoe should be punished for doing that? Are you kidding me? If there was any justice in this world, and I do not hesitate to say this, Bush would be hanged for his crimes well before any shoe was thrown at him.
    ...
    For shits and giggles... let's just PRETEND he did... okay?
    Let's pretend that Iran came across the ocean and killed a bunch of us Americans trying to... save us from our decadent lives of money and porn... make us closer to Allah (a.k.a. God) by giving us the religion Iran has. And Iranian president Achemenninjodad came to tell us how well off we are... when all of a sudden, CincyBearCat leaps up a fires a size 11 Doc Marten at him and is wrestled to the ground and placed in a U.S. jail.
    He (Cincy) would be my hero and Ty Pennington would probably be building him a new 4 story house for when he is released. While the Iranian people in Iran would call for his death by stoning.
    ...
    The point being... 'Hero' can be seen differently... depending on who's shoe you are wearing.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Seriously, that difficult to see the other side?

    I said "spitirual leader" because we al know who rules that part of the country. And we all know their atrocities as well.

    Is it that hard to understand why someone would think that anyone that threw a shoe at someone at a press conference is an ass clown?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Is it that hard to understand why someone would think that anyone that threw a shoe at someone at a press conference is an ass clown?

    I can understand someone thinking that way when they fail - or refuse - to look at the bigger picture.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Byrnzie wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Is it that hard to understand why someone would think that anyone that threw a shoe at someone at a press conference is an ass clown?

    I can understand someone thinking that way when they fail - or refuse - to look at the bigger picture.


    Ok, you keep your 'big picture" shoe throwers...they'll change the world!!!!!

    Too blinded by yoru hatred of GW to know an ass clown when you see one...it's sad really. Mayeb the Chinese government is changing your posts.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    It's no wonder polticians are such dumbasses when the electorate love shoe throwing...

    Lots of hypocritical people here. Talk about diplomatic solutions...cheer shoe throwing...you get what you ask for.
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Seriously, that difficult to see the other side?

    I said "spitirual leader" because we al know who rules that part of the country. And we all know their atrocities as well.

    Is it that hard to understand why someone would think that anyone that threw a shoe at someone at a press conference is an ass clown?
    This reporter has probably witnessed first hand, the death, murder & destruction in Iraq. I bet he's seen a whole lot more than we will ever be privvy too, and then to have to listen to Bush's bullshit and propaganda about how the war was necessary for peace blah blah blah, maybe, just maybe, the poor man eventually cracked. Just because some Americans have no problem with Bush's actions and stood by for 8 years while he, Cheney and their neocon friends destroyed their country, doesn't mean other people are able to do the same.

    This reporter did what most of us have been dying to do, show his contempt for this moronic war criminal.

    I have no problems understanding why he did it, and certainly do not consider him an ass clown.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's no wonder polticians are such dumbasses when the electorate love shoe throwing...

    Lots of hypocritical people here. Talk about diplomatic solutions...cheer shoe throwing...you get what you ask for.

    I'm not sure if I love shoe throwing or the shoe thrower but I know I can certainly understand why the anger that caused him to throw both his shoes in the first place. It's not like he did so without warning, I believe he did shout some words of anger before throwing his shoes.

    I must commend GWB for being heads up while on his feet, must be his advanced cheer-leading skills.

    Peace
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    g under p wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's no wonder polticians are such dumbasses when the electorate love shoe throwing...

    Lots of hypocritical people here. Talk about diplomatic solutions...cheer shoe throwing...you get what you ask for.

    I'm not sure if I love shoe throwing or the shoe thrower but I know I can certainly understand why the anger that caused him to throw both his shoes in the first place.
    Peace
    Agreed, i can definitely understand the anger that would've fired him up.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2009
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Ok, you keep your 'big picture" shoe throwers...they'll change the world!!!!!

    Too blinded by yoru hatred of GW to know an ass clown when you see one...it's sad really. Mayeb the Chinese government is changing your posts.

    'My' hatred of GW? What does this have to do with me? I thought we were discussing the feelings of the Iraqi people? Or are they an irrelevance in your scheme of things?
    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    g under p wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's no wonder polticians are such dumbasses when the electorate love shoe throwing...

    Lots of hypocritical people here. Talk about diplomatic solutions...cheer shoe throwing...you get what you ask for.

    I'm not sure if I love shoe throwing or the shoe thrower but I know I can certainly understand why the anger that caused him to throw both his shoes in the first place. It's not like he did so without warning, I believe he did shout some words of anger before throwing his shoes.

    I must commend GWB for being heads up while on his feet, must be his advanced cheer-leading skills.

    Peace
    ...
    Pretty much my take on it.
    And there are a LOT of variables involved here... it would be different if there wasn't... say... A WAR in the thrower's homeland by a country on the other side of the planet that was in his home on made up intelligence and the one who decided all of this was standing in front of him.
    Huge factors.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    throwing a shoe at a conquering leader is admirable. he risked his life to publicly show hos contempt for the invading army. i'm surprised he's still alive actually, the US military and intelligence machines usually don't do well with dissent in the countries they occupy.
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Byrnzie wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Ok, you keep your 'big picture" shoe throwers...they'll change the world!!!!!

    Too blinded by yoru hatred of GW to know an ass clown when you see one...it's sad really. Mayeb the Chinese government is changing your posts.

    'My' hatred of GW? What does this have to do with me? I thought we were discussing the feelings of the Iraqi people? Or are they an irrelevance in your scheme of things?


    Your hatred plays into what action you deem exceptable against him.

    Oh, and I love the last sentence...very nice. You are the people's champion.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    g under p wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's no wonder polticians are such dumbasses when the electorate love shoe throwing...

    Lots of hypocritical people here. Talk about diplomatic solutions...cheer shoe throwing...you get what you ask for.

    I'm not sure if I love shoe throwing or the shoe thrower but I know I can certainly understand why the anger that caused him to throw both his shoes in the first place. It's not like he did so without warning, I believe he did shout some words of anger before throwing his shoes.

    I must commend GWB for being heads up while on his feet, must be his advanced cheer-leading skills.

    Peace


    I completely understand the anger and frustration. Absolutely. But throwing a shoe? really? That's the kind of thing that if you did it, you'd feel like an idiot later. Letting your emotions cause you to act like a child.

    Now, seeing GW as the murderer who killed your family is certainly enough to make someone go and do something crazy, so I'm being kinda harsh with the "ass clown" comment. But to rally around throwing shoes is juvenille.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I completely understand the anger and frustration. Absolutely. But throwing a shoe? really? That's the kind of thing that if you did it, you'd feel like an idiot later. Letting your emotions cause you to act like a child.

    Now, seeing GW as the murderer who killed your family is certainly enough to make someone go and do something crazy, so I'm being kinda harsh with the "ass clown" comment. But to rally around throwing shoes is juvenille.

    you have to understand the significance of shoes and feet in arab culture to understand why they consider his act a considerable act of defiance ...

    in any case - i wouldn't be shocked to find that he's done more to protest the policies of the bush administration than any other person ...
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Commy wrote:
    throwing a shoe at a conquering leader is admirable. he risked his life to publicly show hos contempt for the invading army. i'm surprised he's still alive actually, the US military and intelligence machines usually don't do well with dissent in the countries they occupy.

    his life was never at risk. :roll:
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    his life was never at risk. :roll:

    You sound like you know this to be a fact. Care to share this information with us? Do you know exactly what security measures were in place during this incident?
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    his life was never at risk. :roll:

    You sound like you know this to be a fact. Care to share this information with us? Do you know exactly what security measures were in place during this incident?


    it's not like we shoot down italian agents after they rescue hostages or anything....
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