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  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    thought I'd bump this so people would know for those who haven't seen it.
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  • lukin321lukin321 Charlotte, NC Posts: 865
    Wow, this is pretty disappointing news. I was looking forward to the vault shows as much as the new album. That NYE boot was terrible.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    red mos wrote:
    the 10 club version will contain internet only stuff that will be ongoing. Meaning I think it will have a code that will enable you excess to a special site that will continually be updated with pearl jam stuff. She did not go into detail as to what the materials would be as she isn't exactly sure right now. It will be an ongoing thing. Sounds pretty cool actually.

    Boy, I'm so glad they throw this sort of thing in as a perk with pre-ordering the new album. I mean, imagine how much it would suck if 10c members could access a special site updated with PJ stuff. We might actually get our money's worth from this club!
  • No disrespect dude, but I'm with Spencer on this one. Casual fan or diehard, I don't think we'll get boots that sound like the Academy show.

    From wiki:

    "Though this is an official bootleg, the quality is similar to that of common bootlegs, because the band used DAT recorders until the middle of 1992."

    Hopefully mods will step in to squash this...
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    burgandy75 wrote:
    No disrespect dude, but I'm with Spencer on this one. Casual fan or diehard, I don't think we'll get boots that sound like the Academy show.

    From wiki:

    "Though this is an official bootleg, the quality is similar to that of common bootlegs, because the band used DAT recorders until the middle of 1992."

    Hopefully mods will step in to squash this...

    I'm guessing that at least Kelly Curtis recognizes just what kind of goldmine they're sitting on with "The Vault." We're basically talking about the band's retirement fund here. And their childrens' trust funds, for that matter. I imagine the "real" vault (any and all soundboard recordings the band has) will be slowly doled out once the band calls it a career. There's no reason for the band to give away the goldmine for a silly promo. So I'm not terribly surprised if they end up throwing crappy audience boots out there.
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  • burgandy75 wrote:
    From wiki:

    "Though this is an official bootleg, the quality is similar to that of common bootlegs, because the band used DAT recorders until the middle of 1992."

    That is incorrect. The NYC boot is taken from a recording that a fan made. It even has clicks between the tracks like a badly burned CDR.
  • burgandy75 wrote:
    From wiki:

    "Though this is an official bootleg, the quality is similar to that of common bootlegs, because the band used DAT recorders until the middle of 1992."

    That is incorrect. The NYC boot is taken from a recording that a fan made. It even has clicks between the tracks like a badly burned CDR.

    Why would they use an audience recording? That kind of goes against the reason they started releasing boots themselves.
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,077
    Wow. Another reason I'm glad I ordered from the 10c.
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  • demetrios wrote:
    Cool! But how does one who doesn't have a Target shop in their province (Nova Scotia) get those downloads .. from Target? :(

    pm me and i will ship one out to you D.
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,002
    arthurdent wrote:
    There's no reason for the band to give away the goldmine for a silly promo. So I'm not terribly surprised if they end up throwing crappy audience boots out there.

    Except that it's a great way to give fans a taste of what they might buy in the future. giving fans crap now will not make it more likely that those same fans will spend the money when the real vault is opened. if you dont agree, consider the 12/31/92 release and the effect that its poor quality is having on the fanbase now. the last 3 archive releases by the band (12/31/92, MTV Unplugged and Drop in the Park) have all been flawed (missing songs, edited, poor quality) and have created a cloud of skepticism over any such shows the band releases in the future. this is an opportunity to wipe the memories of the fans clean and release shows the way the band knows they should, complete, unedited, and in professional, lossless quality.
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  • Let's not forget that before the '06 Tour, the Constitution Hall show from 1.14.95 was on Basecamp as a test of sorts for FLAC releases. I consider that part of the vault, even though it was never officially released. And aside from the first few tracks having dropouts that show is stellar.
  • They better be soundboards and they better be available in FLAC, otherwise a lot of people are going to be furious.
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    non-entity wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:
    There's no reason for the band to give away the goldmine for a silly promo. So I'm not terribly surprised if they end up throwing crappy audience boots out there.

    Except that it's a great way to give fans a taste of what they might buy in the future. giving fans crap now will not make it more likely that those same fans will spend the money when the real vault is opened. if you dont agree, consider the 12/31/92 release and the effect that its poor quality is having on the fanbase now. the last 3 archive releases by the band (12/31/92, MTV Unplugged and Drop in the Park) have all been flawed (missing songs, edited, poor quality) and have created a cloud of skepticism over any such shows the band releases in the future. this is an opportunity to wipe the memories of the fans clean and release shows the way the band knows they should, complete, unedited, and in professional, lossless quality.

    But releasing audio boots for the "Vault" requires almost no effort on the part of the band or their management. Basically as somebody said, just download the show off the internet and repackage it for this promo.
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,002
    arthurdent wrote:
    But releasing audio boots for the "Vault" requires almost no effort on the part of the band or their management. Basically as somebody said, just download the show off the internet and repackage it for this promo.

    sorry, but I dont see how your post is a response to mine. additionally, have you EVER heard of a band releasing an audience recording? I have not, and that is part of the reason I was so incredibly disappointed by 12/31/92.
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  • They better be soundboards and they better be available in FLAC, otherwise a lot of people are going to be furious.

    Two free FLAC shows would be the gift that keeps on giving, but I won't hold out hope for that. It really stings a little when I see Counting Crows, DMB , and Phish..bands that I don't hate, yet don't care about as much as PJ offering up their vault...and in FLAC.
  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,002
    burgandy75 wrote:
    Two free FLAC shows would be the gift that keeps on giving, but I won't hold out hope for that. It really stings a little when I see Counting Crows, DMB , and Phish..bands that I don't hate, yet don't care about as much as PJ offering up their vault...and in FLAC.

    yes. and yes.
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  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    non-entity wrote:
    burgandy75 wrote:
    Two free FLAC shows would be the gift that keeps on giving, but I won't hold out hope for that. It really stings a little when I see Counting Crows, DMB , and Phish..bands that I don't hate, yet don't care about as much as PJ offering up their vault...and in FLAC.

    yes. and yes.

    I really feel that PJ is going to milk their vault releases in the same way the estates of Jimi Hendrix and Jeff Buckley have :cry:
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  • arthurdent wrote:
    I really feel that PJ is going to milk their vault releases in the same way the estates of Jimi Hendrix and Jeff Buckley have :cry:

    I sure as hell hope so! Why not?
  • DF691DF691 Posts: 12
    Is it safe to assume that the copy we'll be able to purchase in indie record stores is identical to the "10C version", in that the same "extras" will be offered in the indie store versions?
  • VarisVaris Posts: 39
    Like I've said elsewhere, I'm pretty sure the OP spoke to the work experience girl at the 10C - no way they are putting out auds, no way in hell.
  • SpencerSpencer Posts: 867
    Varis wrote:
    Like I've said elsewhere, I'm pretty sure the OP spoke to the work experience girl at the 10C - no way they are putting out auds, no way in hell.
    G'day ol' chum! 8-)

    Listen to this man, he speaketh the truth.

    They're not audience recordings.

    Will they be old shows or just post-2000 shows?

    That remains up for debate...

    Time will tell.
  • VarisVaris Posts: 39
    Hey Spenno.

    What's a nice guy like you...never mind

    It is gonna be very interestings seeing what ends up being available with these. I'm hoping for 2 things - quality and something new. And some new 98 shows would be the shit too.
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