Extra tax dollars for WHAT?

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

Ahhh.... The good old days....

"The good old days" will always be the present day until we the people actually care enough to keep Washington in check. "Extra" dollars for Social Security clearly aren't going towards their intended purpose, which is SOCIAL SECURITY. Our money, no matter the current cause that it claims to support will NEVER be spent the way we expect it to be.

Hold the government accountable first, and then we can talk about giving them more than we already do.

TriumphantAngel wrote:

we wouldn't even have to pay extra tax dollars. stop funding the war and put that money towards looking after our own citizens. seems simple to me.

and have actual accounting and accountability! how do companies who are proven to have committed fraud in billing and other areas, like feeding our troops spoiled meat and dirty water, awarded bonuses?? and they announced during the Bush administration trillions were unaccounted for in the defense budget over the years and there's billions unaccounted for in Iraq

I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?[/quote]


well stated........i agreee.

Cosmo wrote:

So... how would your system work? Would the patient come to you and ask for $1.07 to help pay for his operation... and knock on enough doors to reach the required amount? Or, do you pay it straight to the doctor or hospital... or the Insurance Company that the doctor sends the bills to?
I'm just trying to figure out the logistics.

Easy, I'd donate to private organizations set up to help people with medical bills.

The government fails at everything it does except squeezing more money from all of us and taking away more of our freedom.

know1 wrote:

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

Ahhh.... The good old days....

I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?

It's pretty simple really. You hold your government accountable. If they don't spend your money in the right places and as efficiently as possible you get them the fuck outta there. The problem is the country is torn in 2. By a bunch of narrow minded god loving hicks that love war and 60% of the people, much of whom don't give a shit about anything other than reality television and fast food.

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

it and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

Ahhh.... The good old days....

As a Veteran I tak offense to the above statement. So you are saying all our troops do is kill women and children?

As a guy who knows the basic rules of the English language, I can tell you that she's clearly saying that money taken by the government was used to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers. As a literate guy who knows how to read, I can tell you that no where in that sentence was the word "troops" mentioned, let alone what all of them do. I doubt she'd know that kind of information. Then again, I'm just a guy who can read, so what do I know.

As for the topic itself, I agree with the OP, it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

GTFLYGIRL wrote:

_outlaw wrote:

it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?

You're not going to find many of them. Patriotism is really about money these days.

scb wrote:

Patriotism is really about money these days.

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