Extra tax dollars for WHAT?

GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
edited July 2009 in A Moving Train
Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

Ahhh.... The good old days....
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  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    we wouldn't even have to pay extra tax dollars. stop funding the war and put that money towards looking after our own citizens. seems simple to me.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    sure, I would. how about you define extra first. how much more would you be willing to pay? 20%? 30%?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    edited July 2009
    we wouldn't even have to pay extra tax dollars. stop funding the war and put that money towards looking after our own citizens. seems simple to me.

    if both wars stopped today, we still wouldn't have enough money for healthcare. that said, I'd love to see the wars stop and our military budget cut 25%.
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....

    "The good old days" will always be the present day until we the people actually care enough to keep Washington in check. "Extra" dollars for Social Security clearly aren't going towards their intended purpose, which is SOCIAL SECURITY. Our money, no matter the current cause that it claims to support will NEVER be spent the way we expect it to be.

    Hold the government accountable first, and then we can talk about giving them more than we already do.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....


    I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

    What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

    It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    We cannot play into the hands of power and agree to more taxation- this is what they want from us.
    Lets account for the taxation in place and the interest charged by the Federal Reserve first. Call for an audit of the Federal Reserve(private bank not audited). The American people have to know now, they have to see the interest (through taxation) they are paying on a debt that is growing, growing from the actions of our government that is being controlled by this private bank.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    pandora wrote:
    We cannot play into the hands of power and agree to more taxation- this is what they want from us.
    Lets account for the taxation in place and the interest charged by the Federal Reserve first. Call for an audit of the Federal Reserve(private bank not audited). The American people have to know now, they have to see the interest (through taxation) they are paying on a debt that is growing, growing from the actions of our government that is being controlled by this private bank.

    275 co-sponsors in the House, 18 in the Senate to Audit the Fed. It's getting mainstream media attention at this point. Keep the info coming!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    we wouldn't even have to pay extra tax dollars. stop funding the war and put that money towards looking after our own citizens. seems simple to me.


    and have actual accounting and accountability! how do companies who are proven to have committed fraud in billing and other areas, like feeding our troops spoiled meat and dirty water, awarded bonuses?? and they announced during the Bush administration trillions were unaccounted for in the defense budget over the years and there's billions unaccounted for in Iraq
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....

    Save babies???!!! HELL no!! We don't want to save no fucking babies! As I'm sure you've noticed, I'm all about killing babies! Glad to see so many of the conservatives around here have come around to my side on this.....

    DOWN WITH HEALTHCARE!! DOWN WITH BABIES!! :twisted:
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

    What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

    It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?[/quote]


    well stated........i agreee.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....


    I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

    What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

    It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?
    ...
    So... how would your system work? Would the patient come to you and ask for $1.07 to help pay for his operation... and knock on enough doors to reach the required amount? Or, do you pay it straight to the doctor or hospital... or the Insurance Company that the doctor sends the bills to?
    I'm just trying to figure out the logistics.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    So... how would your system work? Would the patient come to you and ask for $1.07 to help pay for his operation... and knock on enough doors to reach the required amount? Or, do you pay it straight to the doctor or hospital... or the Insurance Company that the doctor sends the bills to?
    I'm just trying to figure out the logistics.

    Easy, I'd donate to private organizations set up to help people with medical bills.

    The government fails at everything it does except squeezing more money from all of us and taking away more of our freedom.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    it and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....

    As a Veteran I tak offense to the above statement. So you are saying all our troops do is kill women and children?
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    know1 wrote:
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Would you be willing to pay extra tax dollars to help pay for healthcare to the millions and millions that don't have it? To help save a few babies and maybe provide their parents with some healthcare, preventative medicine and antibiotics too?

    DAMN!!! I miss the days where there was no talk of this healthcare bullshit and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....


    I'm absolutely willing (and do) to give extra dollars and my time to help people with health care and other way.

    What I'm not willing to do is give TAX dollars to a greedy government who can't be trusted to spend it to really help people. Just like your reference to the Iraq War, once the government gets our money who knows what they'll do with it.

    It makes a heck of a lot more sense to me to give my money and time directly to the people who need it. Why do we need a government to (allegedly) do our charity for us?

    It's pretty simple really. You hold your government accountable. If they don't spend your money in the right places and as efficiently as possible you get them the fuck outta there. The problem is the country is torn in 2. By a bunch of narrow minded god loving hicks that love war and 60% of the people, much of whom don't give a shit about anything other than reality television and fast food.
  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    it and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....

    As a Veteran I tak offense to the above statement. So you are saying all our troops do is kill women and children?


    No of course that is not what i am saying and i am very sorry i offended you.

    I forgot to mention the 30,000- 100,000 estimated americans wounded and the almost 5000 killed ... in iraq and afghanistan... since 2001... at the cost of about $900 billion american dollars.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    it and they just took my money to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers... and then blow up their schools and other institutional structures so we could put out no-bid contracts and pay kellogg brown and root... and other halliburton subsidiaries... to rebuild them.

    Ahhh.... The good old days....

    As a Veteran I tak offense to the above statement. So you are saying all our troops do is kill women and children?
    As a guy who knows the basic rules of the English language, I can tell you that she's clearly saying that money taken by the government was used to blow off the faces of Iraqi children and kill their mothers. As a literate guy who knows how to read, I can tell you that no where in that sentence was the word "troops" mentioned, let alone what all of them do. I doubt she'd know that kind of information. Then again, I'm just a guy who can read, so what do I know.

    As for the topic itself, I agree with the OP, it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    _outlaw wrote:
    it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

    AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

    AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?

    You're not going to find many of them. Patriotism is really about money these days.
  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    scb wrote:
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

    AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?

    You're not going to find many of them. Patriotism is really about money these days.

    money and FEAR... i mean... why learn the truth when we can be scared of that which we needn't be scared of.... NOT learn the truth and the facts... and spend our free time learning about how many drugs Anna Nicole Smith and Michael Jackson had in their bodies at the times of their deaths... or more importantly... who Lindsay, Paris and the kids from High School Musical are fucking... OR even more imprortantly... who won dancing withthe stars and american idol this season?

    (oh and oh yeah.... how the poor people in america are the ones fucking the middle class out of their money... ) :shock:
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    scb wrote:
    Patriotism is really about money these days.

    :roll: Only on AMT
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

    AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?

    And what is it that we exactly plan to do? I would really like to know. The Messiah doesen't even know. It looks like hope is starting to turn to disdain.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Patriotism is really about money these days.

    :roll: Only on AMT
    i dunno, i kind of do think that it is about money. i would have liked to own an american flag and/or a red white and blue ribbon making company at the time of the beginning of the war. or how about the person that invented those stupid ribbon magnets for your car that everyone and their mom bought? i guarantee those people are alot more patriotic now that they are millionaires off of suffering of their fellow citizens.

    remember "the patriot pack" they sold on infomercials on tv in like 2003? you could order like 12 or 14 american flags of different sizes to show everyone else you are a bigger patriot than they are, as if it was a manhood measuring contest, but back then it was..... and a ton of people bought them.

    that said, would the patriotic thing to do here be to stop funding wars in the middle east, instead making sure everyone has health insurance, public option included, or leave things as they are with 47 million uninsured and millions more underinsured and trillions going down the toilet in iraq and afghanistan? i choose the former.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    oh and by the way, i really wish people would stop calling obama "the messiah". lardass rush beat all of you to that a year ago. besides, a huge number of us that voted for him are not religious and do not consider ANYONE a messiah. let alone a two-bit politician. i think if we were we would have voted another way. so come up with another title for him please....
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  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    oh and by the way, i really wish people would stop calling obama "the messiah". lardass rush beat all of you to that a year ago. besides, a huge number of us that voted for him are not religious and do not consider ANYONE a messiah.....


    yeah. the messiah. that's some lame ass lard ass unoriginal bullshit. :roll:
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,626
    I would pay extra tax dollars for a few years if they spent the $$ on making the govt administer its programs more efficiently. Hopefully the $$ they'd spend would improve the efficiency for years to come.

    A fella can dream!
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    it's amazing how apathetic the American public is towards the government using our tax money to terrorize another people, but when it comes to using it for our own healthcare and helping the tens of millions who need it, it's just absolutely ridiculous.

    AND... it's amazing how PATRIOTIC the American people are when it comes to WAR. How and why is it NOT patriotic to try and take care of our own people? Where are the flag waving America lovers in regard to LOVING THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE (SWIFTLY GROWING) HEALTH CARE CRISIS?


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  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    remember "the patriot pack" they sold on infomercials on tv in like 2003?

    WOO HOO!! Let's wave our flags !

    I'm buying me a Patriot Pack!

    ;)
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    oh and by the way, i really wish people would stop calling obama "the messiah". lardass rush beat all of you to that a year ago. besides, a huge number of us that voted for him are not religious and do not consider ANYONE a messiah. let alone a two-bit politician. i think if we were we would have voted another way. so come up with another title for him please....
    "the messiah" ?
    now thats scary
    working with the "antichrist"
    thats even scarier
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