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petrocs
petrocs Posts: 4,342
edited July 2009 in The Porch
Gawd...I friggin hate scalpers...

I wish they would make this a paperless tour...cut out these idiots..

check out the local websites.. *thanks Lukin*


PAPERLESS ticketing tour. You will NOT receive a physical ticket for entry, and you are required to bring the credit card you used to buy your ticket and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and your party access to the event.
If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made. Hey if it works for Miley why not our boys!
Shows:
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    there's no stopping it. things like this have gone on for centuries and will continue to evolve and piss us off.
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    edited July 2009
    No stopping it?

    look at this...and shes sold out EVERYWHERE...paperless tour man..stops it

    check out the local websites and type in Miley Cyrus...NO TICKETS TO SCALP!
    Post edited by petrocs on
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    edited July 2009
    That is great idea.

    On the No Doubt tour this summer I joined the fan club to get good tickets. We lined up to pick up the tickets on the day of the show. The fan club staff were set up on tables. The tickets had your name printed on them and they escorted you right into the venue. You could not leave once you were in.

    For all of their (10C) anti-scalper talk, which is great, they aren't going the extra mile.
    Post edited by Flagg on
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    :o
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    still don't think any system is drum tight. scalpers find ways.
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Gues what...19,000 + tickets x 3 x paperless tour = a lot of happy jammers
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Pushin Forward Back
    Pushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    edited July 2009
    their called "Flash Tickets" AC/DC only offered Flash tickets for their tour last year to help prevent it.


    Its up to the artist to request and enforce this as well as the venue having the capable technology to be able to handle it.

    I would say that Seattle and the Spectrum do not have it because they do not have the revenue in the arena that is generated by an NBA team. Almost all NBA team arenas have the flash ticket technology in place except for a select few (NOLA, Memphis)
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    still don't think any system is drum tight. scalpers find ways.

    how you gonna find a way when you have to physically scan your CC on your way INTO the venue?
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    Flagg wrote:
    That is great idea.

    On the No Doubt tour this summer I joined the fan club to get good tickets. We lined up to pick up the tickets on the day of the show. The fan club staff were set up on tables. The tickets had your name printed on them and they escorted you right into the venue. You could not leave once you were in.
    My only concern with that is that Ticketbastard could theoretically switch things around - they could sell their own paperless tickets to Ticketsnow, and then monopolize the scalper industry as well.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    Petrocs, you may want to pull that Stubhub link down, the mods don't like when we post scalper links. Just don't want to see you get in trouble.
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    benjs wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    That is great idea.

    On the No Doubt tour this summer I joined the fan club to get good tickets. We lined up to pick up the tickets on the day of the show. The fan club staff were set up on tables. The tickets had your name printed on them and they escorted you right into the venue. You could not leave once you were in.
    My only concern with that is that Ticketbastard could theoretically switch things around - they could sell their own paperless tickets to Ticketsnow, and then monopolize the scalper industry as well.

    Paperless means exactly that...I cant find a way how the scalpers or ticketmaster could monopolize this
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    petrocs wrote:
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    still don't think any system is drum tight. scalpers find ways.

    how you gonna find a way when you have to physically scan your CC on your way INTO the venue?

    :lol: you win mate. my run as a brainless devil's advocate has come to an end!
    www.cluthelee.com
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    still don't think any system is drum tight. scalpers find ways.

    how you gonna find a way when you have to physically scan your CC on your way INTO the venue?

    :lol: you win mate. my run as a brainless devil's advocate has come to an end!

    LOL...now lets convince the powers that be to do this!
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    petrocs wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    That is great idea.

    On the No Doubt tour this summer I joined the fan club to get good tickets. We lined up to pick up the tickets on the day of the show. The fan club staff were set up on tables. The tickets had your name printed on them and they escorted you right into the venue. You could not leave once you were in.
    My only concern with that is that Ticketbastard could theoretically switch things around - they could sell their own paperless tickets to Ticketsnow, and then monopolize the scalper industry as well.

    Paperless means exactly that...I cant find a way how the scalpers or ticketmaster could monopolize this
    That's what I'm saying though - Ticketsnow is Ticketmaster's own "resale" website, so they could theoretically sell access to seats to Ticketsnow, and Ticketsnow could theoretically utilize the paperless ticket method as well, but no other scalping company could.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    [quote="benjsThat's what I'm saying though - Ticketsnow is Ticketmaster's own "resale" website, so they could theoretically sell access to seats to Ticketsnow, and Ticketsnow could theoretically utilize the paperless ticket method as well, but no other scalping company could.[/quote]

    You cant sell access to seats...then a representative from Ticketsnow would have to buy the tickets..meet you at the venue...sit next to you and yours...buy you a pretzel and a soda...and make small talk..not happening my friend
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    LOL...now lets convince the powers that be to do this![/quote]

    i like it! ready for a new thread?
    www.cluthelee.com
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    sit next to you and yours...buy you a pretzel and a soda...and make small talk..not happening my friend[/quote]

    i'd buy the ticketmater dude a bunch of beers and organise some passes backstage.
    www.cluthelee.com
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    petrocs wrote:
    Gawd...I friggin hate scalpers...

    I wish they would make this a paperless tour...cut out these idiots..

    check out the local websites.. *thanks Lukin*


    PAPERLESS ticketing tour. You will NOT receive a physical ticket for entry, and you are required to bring the credit card you used to buy your ticket and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and your party access to the event.
    If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made. Hey if it works for Miley why not our boys!




    that's a VERY cool idea!



    however, would that not mean that every single ticket for a show can never be resold? ALL sales are final, period? i mean, i do understand the rationale and overall support it....but for a lot of people, sometimes life gets in the way, and a show they bought tix for months ago, now they cannot attend. i understand it with our 10c tix, but idk if i truly think it's right for ALL tickets. i mean, someone dies, or you get sick, or you have an unforeseem business trip, kid's soccer game, whatever....i think for regular tix you should be able to pass em on to someone else.
    Stay with me...
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    decides2dream wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    Gawd...I friggin hate scalpers...

    I wish they would make this a paperless tour...cut out these idiots..

    check out the local websites.. *thanks Lukin*


    PAPERLESS ticketing tour. You will NOT receive a physical ticket for entry, and you are required to bring the credit card you used to buy your ticket and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and your party access to the event.
    If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made. Hey if it works for Miley why not our boys!




    that's a VERY cool idea!



    however, would that not mean that every single ticket for a show can never be resold? ALL sales are final, period? i mean, i do understand the rationale and overall support it....but for a lot of people, sometimes life gets in the way, and a show they bought tix for months ago, now they cannot attend. i understand it with our 10c tix, but idk if i truly think it's right for ALL tickets. i mean, someone dies, or you get sick, or you have an unforeseem business trip, kid's soccer game, whatever....i think for regular tix you should be able to pass em on to someone else.

    Then the venue has to be able to refund your money and resell the tickets..thats the trade off..basically scalpers make up for 90% of the resell..thats my guess...10% are good people who just cant go
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    petrocs wrote:
    decides2dream wrote:
    petrocs wrote:
    Gawd...I friggin hate scalpers...

    I wish they would make this a paperless tour...cut out these idiots..

    check out the local websites.. *thanks Lukin*


    PAPERLESS ticketing tour. You will NOT receive a physical ticket for entry, and you are required to bring the credit card you used to buy your ticket and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and your party access to the event.
    If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made. Hey if it works for Miley why not our boys!




    that's a VERY cool idea!



    however, would that not mean that every single ticket for a show can never be resold? ALL sales are final, period? i mean, i do understand the rationale and overall support it....but for a lot of people, sometimes life gets in the way, and a show they bought tix for months ago, now they cannot attend. i understand it with our 10c tix, but idk if i truly think it's right for ALL tickets. i mean, someone dies, or you get sick, or you have an unforeseem business trip, kid's soccer game, whatever....i think for regular tix you should be able to pass em on to someone else.

    Then the venue has to be able to refund your money and resell the tickets..thats the trade off..basically scalpers make up for 90% of the resell..thats my guess...10% are good people who just cant go


    oh well if that's the case, that does help enormously. sure, there may be some who still might not be able to get down the venue for a refund, but it definitely improves the #s of those who won't lose their $$$. although it does cut out the possibility of just giving away your tickets, but maybe they can do that at the box office too, idk. i guess there's always a way around things.


    however, for the 10c, it would be perfect just as is!
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


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