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Commy
Commy Posts: 4,984
edited May 2009 in A Moving Train
power corrupts. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

one way to avoid that is to spread the power out amongst the people.


structure a system around a non-system.

companies have no more say than the individuals that make them up. no laws governing or protecting anyone, its all about public will. there may need to be some kind of declaration before we begin...to prevent majority rules in situations where the majority is ill informed...but true, absolute democracy, with a socialist environment, leaves no chance for a curruptible official or institution. it ends the evcils of authority.


pure anarchy. the way to go.
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    edited May 2009
    spreading the decisions amongst the populace will never be successful...........even the animal kingdom follows a power structure.

    the ants have it figured out......

    pure ant colony. the way to go.
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    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Commy wrote:
    power corrupts. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

    one way to avoid that is to spread the power out amongst the people.


    structure a system around a non-system.

    companies have no more say than the individuals that make them up. no laws governing or protecting anyone, its all about public will. there may need to be some kind of declaration before we begin...to prevent majority rules in situations where the majority is ill informed...but true, absolute democracy, with a socialist environment, leaves no chance for a curruptible official or institution. it ends the evcils of authority.


    pure anarchy. the way to go.


    So which is it? Anarchy or give in to a larger government? Because your quote, http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=99258&start=30, "the only institution with the authority to end war is the UN, and in order for it implement its policies, the US needs to get in line, to cede a little sovereignty for the common good., but nationalism and pride and rednecks get in the way of that goal, so we may have a ways to go yet." makes me think you don't know where you stand. An anarchist, or anyone with any common sense would never want to conform into a larger government.

    Can you straighten this out for us?
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Commy wrote:
    power corrupts. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

    one way to avoid that is to spread the power out amongst the people.


    structure a system around a non-system.

    companies have no more say than the individuals that make them up. no laws governing or protecting anyone, its all about public will. there may need to be some kind of declaration before we begin...to prevent majority rules in situations where the majority is ill informed...but true, absolute democracy, with a socialist environment, leaves no chance for a curruptible official or institution. it ends the evcils of authority.


    pure anarchy. the way to go.


    not going to work on a large scale, with over 300 millions individuals
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Commy wrote:
    power corrupts. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

    one way to avoid that is to spread the power out amongst the people.


    structure a system around a non-system.

    companies have no more say than the individuals that make them up. no laws governing or protecting anyone, its all about public will. there may need to be some kind of declaration before we begin...to prevent majority rules in situations where the majority is ill informed...but true, absolute democracy, with a socialist environment, leaves no chance for a curruptible official or institution. it ends the evcils of authority.


    pure anarchy. the way to go.
    :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: yeah dude what ever you say... anarchy???? are you serious or are you just trying to get attention??????
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Gaddafi tried to implement a system in Libya which gave power to the people. The system had a lot of flaws and the fact that he would not relinquish power was pretty much pissing on the system he tried to set up but it was interesting nonetheless. I'm no expert on it but I think he tried to structure the state as a web of communities which form some kind of power hierarchy.
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    ajedigecko wrote:
    spreading the decisions amongst the populace will never be successful...........even the animal kingdom follows a power structure.

    the ants have it figured out......

    pure ant colony. the way to go.


    such is the great paradox of humanity. We continue a lifestyle and way of life that is completely unsustainable, unhealthy, and against nature. Yet, we continue down this route, not driving cautiously. But barreling down the highway.

    Capitalism and civilization will never be successful either. They are contrary to nature. our way of life is murdering the planet.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.

    Capitalism has worked and it will always work unless people abuse it. You sound like a big hypocrite if you ask me .If you support this Green anarchy or whatever it is you want to call it.why dont you go sell all your shit and go live on some deserted island with commy somewhere
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    spreading the decisions amongst the populace will never be successful...........even the animal kingdom follows a power structure.

    the ants have it figured out......

    pure ant colony. the way to go.


    such is the great paradox of humanity. We continue a lifestyle and way of life that is completely unsustainable, unhealthy, and against nature. Yet, we continue down this route, not driving cautiously. But barreling down the highway.

    Capitalism and civilization will never be successful either. They are contrary to nature. our way of life is murdering the planet.
    people now sustain themselves, are healthy, and are more aware of their environment........that is why we live longer.

    civilization will never be successful????? what is the current world population, approximatly 6billion?
    capitalism is successful.......the problem is, the level at which someone finally thinks that they are successful.

    i have several friends who own their own business.......they are successful, not "millionare successful" but they are able to pay their bills and feed their family.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578
    I dont know about Capitalism, it's all about making profit and getting the most out of something you can. Therefore someone has to loose out and someone has to win more. When man's greed for an increasing ridiculous amount of money stops maybe we could try another system.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    I BrisK I wrote:
    I dont know about Capitalism, it's all about making profit and getting the most out of something you can. Therefore someone has to loose out and someone has to win more. When man's greed for an increasing ridiculous amount of money stops maybe we could try another system.
    "ridiculous amont of money"..........it is easy to make this statement because we do not make the kind of money you are referring to.

    those of us who do not make alot of money, for whatever reason, we attempt to understand and imply that it is immoral for that person to have a ridiculous amount of money, when in all actuality, the person may be doing good with their money. they may be helping organizations or starting foundations to assist others.

    charles koch........comes to mind, i worked for his company and met him. the only billionare i have ever given a high five too.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Commy wrote:
    power corrupts. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

    one way to avoid that is to spread the power out amongst the people.


    structure a system around a non-system.

    companies have no more say than the individuals that make them up. no laws governing or protecting anyone, its all about public will. there may need to be some kind of declaration before we begin...to prevent majority rules in situations where the majority is ill informed...but true, absolute democracy, with a socialist environment, leaves no chance for a curruptible official or institution. it ends the evcils of authority.


    pure anarchy. the way to go.
    If everyone had a say, nothing would ever get done. People would just debate with each other the rest of their lives.
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.


    so why do have a computer and use the internet...... if you are going to go back to hunting and gathering

    I also hope you don't drive a car, fly in airplanes or got to Pearl Jam shows
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.
    Aw hell no!


    Getting rid of civilization and technology means getting rid of art, creativity, ways to express ourselves, challenge our minds.. you don't have time for that shit when you are hunting an gathering. You work to stay alive 24/7, make as many babies as you can and die a young age.

    No thank you. I will fight to the death to keep civilization alive! No way I'm living in a hunting and gathering world.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.
    Aw hell no!


    Getting rid of civilization and technology means getting rid of art, creativity, ways to express ourselves, challenge our minds.. you don't have time for that shit when you are hunting an gathering. You work to stay alive 24/7, make as many babies as you can and die a young age.

    No thank you. I will fight to the death to keep civilization alive! No way I'm living in a hunting and gathering world.
    wimp.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    ajedigecko wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Capitalism doesnt work. Flat out. Any attempts to reform it will fail miserably. It cant be reformed. It needs to be destroyed as does civilization. Green Anarchy or Anarcho-primitivism is what I closely adhere to or believe, in that it suggests return to the hunting and gathering days, and getting rid of civlization and technology.
    Aw hell no!


    Getting rid of civilization and technology means getting rid of art, creativity, ways to express ourselves, challenge our minds.. you don't have time for that shit when you are hunting an gathering. You work to stay alive 24/7, make as many babies as you can and die a young age.

    No thank you. I will fight to the death to keep civilization alive! No way I'm living in a hunting and gathering world.
    wimp.
    I'd like to thank society for keeping these nuts at bay by limiting them to only expressing their opinions on a pearl jam message board. :D

    Seriously, go live in the wild for a week.. these people will be back in society on their computers after a few days with a new revelation about life.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I think all groups of people need to be organized somehow.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    justam wrote:
    I think all groups of people need to be organized somehow.
    Into 6 billion different groups? ;)
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    I'd like to thank society for keeping these nuts at bay by limiting them to only expressing their opinions on a pearl jam message board. :D

    Seriously, go live in the wild for a week.. these people will be back in society on their computers after a few days with a new revelation about life.[/quote]

    correct........seems that most people who want to eliminate, are the people who have never experienced what they want to establish.

    if you get time..........check out the program on discovery called "out of the wild"..good show.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    ajedigecko wrote:
    I'd like to thank society for keeping these nuts at bay by limiting them to only expressing their opinions on a pearl jam message board. :D

    Seriously, go live in the wild for a week.. these people will be back in society on their computers after a few days with a new revelation about life.

    correct........seems that most people who want to eliminate, are the people who have never experienced what they want to establish.

    if you get time..........check out the program on discovery called "out of the wild"..good show.[/quote]


    You should check out expedition Africa :shock:

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