Karl Marx was right all along (about capitalism)

soulsinging wrote:

acoustic guy wrote:

Capitalism gives hard working people a chance to get ahead and better themselves and their families.
Like myself, I work 75 hours a week 7 months out of the year and 55 hours a week the rest of the time. Why? Because if I do I will have nicer things and give my children a better way of life.

Fuck that man, my kids can do their own damn work for their better lives. I'd rather enjoy things like... you know... spending time with them. Taking the occasional vacation. You know, livin... L-I-V-I-N. Sounds better than spending my life either in some shithole or in bed. Life is too short to spend the whole thing obsessed with getting more bling.

acoustic guy wrote:

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A perfect society? Hahahahahaha! Come visit Atlantic City my friend. I'll show you a perfect society. Its full of famlies that are filled with grand parents, parents and kids that ALL choose to not work EVER, live off the goverment and never ever try to get ahead to better themselves. All they do is take take take from the state and abuse the system. And its not just a few people. Its hundrends of thousands of people all over America. You wanna help out the less fortunate? Then get them a job! Dont just take away money from hard working people and give it to the ones for the most part just wanna be lazy bastards. YES yes I know, not all are lazy but ya know what, most are. Come to AC and see how peole choose to live. Its so easy to get a job for the most part if some one really really wants one. (This economy aside). Get up early, dress the part and WORK HARD! My father once told me "Work will set you free". Any time I had financial trouble I got a second job. I worked many jobs that were demeaning but I did not care. It was a job.
I hate it when people like you make excusses for the one who want to live off handouts.
And why do they do this???
Because they can. They see their grandma's and grandpa's not working yet still having food on their plate.
Dont you get it??
Capitalism gives hard working people a chance to get ahead and better themselves and their families.
Like myself, I work 75 hours a week 7 months out of the year and 55 hours a week the rest of the time. Why? Because if I do I will have nicer things and give my children a better way of life.
With out Capitalism I would not have that choice. I would work all those hours and still live in poverty under your choice of goverment.

Some of you in here are really bizzare to me.

Commy wrote:

Sludge Factory wrote:

I'd have to say most of that extra cash went away due to inflation and our horrible monetary policies. My point is, the same thing could've happened under communism under that example. Would being communistic stop the Federal Reserve from printing up more money whenever it was deemed necessary?

if anything that is another example of how we are getting less. with technology, the value of labor has actually increased. an individual is much more productive now than they were 50 years ago right? but in part because of inflation, the compensation the working class receives for their labor has actually decreased. a dollar today is worth less than it was 50 years, ago, due to inflation. but a worker is much more productive, due to technology. but an individual was able to purchase more 50 years ago than an individual today. ie we are getting screwed.

that's the inherent greed of capitalism affecting policy.

the value of the individual labor has increased, considerably increased, yet we are being paid less.


again, i'm not pointing out that communism is the way to go, far from it. what i'm trying to do is point out that capitalism IS NOT the way to go.