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I don't think I'll ever listen to the old Ten mix again
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I listened to Ten a few weeks ago knowing that it would probably be my last time. Like a dork, I even said, "goodbye old friend" as I put it back on the shelf. The new mix of Porch lived up to my expectations and maybe even exceeded them a little. This is how these songs were meant to sound. A job well done by Brendan O'Brien. It's awesome.
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I loved the re-release especially because of the inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down" whose abscence from the original album always boggled my mind.
It's a difficult task to do especially when the original album is such a classic.
Pearl Jam was faced with the same problem when it came to "TEN".
Here you have an album that is world famous, sold 12 million copies, listed as one of the greatest ever...but like "Let It Be"...The band was never happy with the sound and never felt comfortable that it represented their sound.
I love the fact that they are giving us both versions. This way it makes everyone happy. It celebrates the classic, yet at the same time gives you some insight as to what the band originally wanted the album to sound like.
Based on what I've heard so far...(Porch, Once) The Brendon O'Brien remix is going to breathe a whole new life into an album I've heard a million times.
I'm fairly certain that if the rest of the album comes out sounding as good as "Porch" and "Once" I'll probably end up listening to the re-mix album more than the original.
Either way...Cool Shit
It's a good time to be a fan
I agree, I can't wait to hear the remixes. I am really curious as to what Release is going to sound like.
The only reason I'm not selling mine is that I've got the version w/ I've Got a Feeling on it
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
I feel I have to play devil's advocate for Spector's Let It Be. I, like Paul and many others, have been very critical of the "Wall of Sound" added to Long and Winding Road. Ialso think the recording of Across the Universe he used for the album was a complete abortion. Forget the horrible overdubs, it's just a bad recording. The "Wildlife" version and Anthology 2 versions are much better.
But other than those two songs, I feel that Spector did a very good job with Let It Be. I think he did a good job with the songs that were recorded live (One after 909, I've got a Feeling, Dig a Pony, Two of Us). I also think he did a good job with I Me Mine....string overdubs included. And I like the studio chatter a stuff like Maggie Mae.
I feel that Let It Be...Naked is overproduced. That sounds odd because the whole point of the album was to strip the production down. And while Across the Universe and Long and Winding Road finally sound as they should without Spector's overdubs, the rooftop songs are a little too churched up for my tastes. Listen to One After 909 from the orignal album and then listen to it from the Naked album and you'll tell the difference.
The copy of Let It Be that I burned for myself is the orginal album with only Long & Winding Road and Across the Universe replaced with the naked versions and Let It Be replaced by the single version. Otherwise, I prefer the original album's tracklisting and songs. I agree with you that including Don't Let Me Down on the Naked album was a good idea. I don't know how it was left off the orginal in favor of Dig a Pony in the first place.
Don't sell you copy of Ten. First off, you need it for it's historic signicance and secondly you'll get like four dollars for it.
That's a damn good reason not to... that's one of their best covers. I don't know why they stopped doing it.
Probably more like $3 in store credit, but that's a new album I'll actually listen to right there...
I need to make up my mind about the Gorge. I feel like the sound quality on it isn't very good... very thin and tinny in places. I've been downloading a couple old bootlegs I used to have and they sound as good if not better, so I can't see myself reaching for the Gorge over Soldier Field 95, or the 2 shows I went to in 06. But it looks so cool
$120????
not in a million years...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
At that price, I wouldn't listen to it either... That's why I'm buying the cheap version.
i have no idea what remix even fucking means....hehehe
i listen to music because i ...well i just like the fucking music...hehehehe
i would listen to the new version....and i am sure i couldnt figure out one difference between the new and the old...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I think I agree with both of you. I think generally that I prefer Let It Be Naked, but I do think at times they went a bit too far in an attempt to make it seem more worthwhile to collectors... using alternate vocals and things of that sort. The Long and Winding Road and Across the Universe sound tons better, I couldn't listen to the former before this album. But why cut the little jam at the end of Get Back? Why cut all the studio chatter? Don't Let Me Down belonged there, but why not use the version everyone knows and loves and that the band was satisfied with enough to release it as a single?
Overall, it's an improvement, but still.
That's what I find exciting about the Ten remix, I think they're going to avoid doing this, not change the vocal melodies, not use alternate takes or completely chop songs up... just strip it down, leave it nice and raw, and give us the album we remember with a just a cleaner, more immediate sound.
I thought so too, but I can definitely tell the difference between the remixes of Once, Alive, and Black on the greatest hits album and the original versions on Ten. I can't listen to Ten anymore at all... it sounds like a Bon Jovi album to me.
the first time i listened to that album....it was instantly the best music i had ever heard in my entire life...
it was better than any band i had ever listened to...better than zeppelin..pink floyd... the who...the stones...bowie.....blah blah blah...
it boggles my mind how much i enjoyed listening to 10 and Vs. ....back in the day....i literally listen to those albums along with vitalogy THOUSANDS of times...
i havent listened to riot act once in the last year or 2.......and i havent listend to avocado since the first week it was released....
now things are different.....i got older...the band got older...and the music changed.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I feel that way about No Code and Yield... both came out in junior high-high school for me. That might give it a different perspective for me, because I don't really have a nostalgic or sentimental attachment to it... I didn't hear it until they'd already had 3-4 albums. If I had been listening in 91-92, maybe I'd feel different. As is, I just look forward to hearing it without all the gloss.
I listened to Avocado non-stop for about 2 months... and haven't listened once since then. I throw on Riot Act every now and again just to see if maybe I missed something... and I always remember why I hadn't listened in months
I agree that the re-mix is way superior to the original. Brendan O'Brien always seems to get the best out of the band -- even if he wasn't the one to record them. I wonder how Rick Parashar must feel with everyone hating on his production (even the band) to the extent that they actually ended up having O'Brien do this all these years later.
fuck me, how good will Deep sound? thats the one song i always felt was so overproduced that loads of the instruments got lost in the sound. (another example is the bass on the intro of remixed Porch that i never could hear clearly on the old version), hopefully BOB's Deep will melt our faces...a little "Leash"-esque quality to it.
and Oceans, Garden, Release? ...not to mention GOAT! cant wait to hear that, haha!
again, not having listened to the band when Ten was originally out i dont have the same attachment to them. the first album I got was a 2000 bootleg, so Ten sounded nothing like how i knew those songs.
I think Tim Palmer is more to blame for the "reverb issue" than Rick Parashar. As Tim was the one who took the TEN recordings off to England to do the final mix.
Palmer added alot of reberb to the songs, spliced up McCready's guitar solo on Alive, and most notably, directly responsible for butchering the intro to "Black".
We've got to remember that this was...1991 and this was the production of the time.
The band obviously learned from their mistakes on the first album and with that knowlege...took it with them into their next album.
I just love the fact that we are finally getting the album the band originally intended for us to hear.
i'm sure parashar's crying all the way to the bank on this one.... : )
it's still gotta be the biggest thing he's ever done.... a lot of people bought that album for how "shitty" it sounded.... at the time, we all thought it was the shiz-nit and we should just admit it....
It's only like $35 for the two CD, one DVD set. That's the one I'm getting. that deluxe edition is just another way to get money from the obsessed collectors.
But you said you can't tell the difference between the orginal mix and the remix (which is the most insane thing I've ever heard on this board that's actually music-related) so you probably shouldn't even bother with it.