Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye

catefrances · January 2009

patrickredeyes wrote:

evenkat wrote:

Anyone else hear the crowd signing 'Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye' to Bush while he was flying over the crowd in the helicopter on this way back to Texas?

Yea and it was disgraceful to hear that. IMo that wasn't the time for that display of freedom of speech.

so you think there should be certain designated times deemed appropriate to display your freedom of speech??
once were told WHEN we can show dissent the next step is WHAT we can show dissent against. as someone else said fuck bush! hes fucked enough people for 2 life times.

what better time than NOW!!!

WaveCameCrashin · January 2009

Commy wrote:

gvn2fly74 wrote:

patrickredeyes wrote:

Yup and there were groups that hated us b4 Bush became president. Always have and always will.

that's not being old fashion that's called respect

communist I mean commy needs to learn a little.

I know my history.

a recent poll of Arab countries asked what is the biggest threat to world peace-the answer was the US and Israel. Both Israel and the US have proven that poll to be true...their actions support the feelings of the pollsters. The US has invaded Iraq, Israel has invaded Gaza...its obvious who the aggressors are.

groups have hated the US for a reason...and will continue to do so as long as we perpetuate our militant foreign policy...as long as we continue to give them a reason to hate.

I say we, but mean the US government. We has become the term, but I think its inaccurate.

there are better ways to deal with terrorists/

please explain on how you would deal with terrorisim,I dont think you get it commy those SCUM BAGS would cut your head off and not even think twice, theres only one way and its a bullet in the head.

Drew263 · January 2009

What wonderful class shown by liberals. So enlightened, so classy.

:roll:

know1 · January 2009

Just more proof that an unfortunately large segment of the population treat politics with utter childishness.

Byrnzie · January 2009

know1 wrote:

Just more proof that an unfortunately large segment of the population treat politics with utter childishness.

Heatherj43 · January 2009

I didn't watch the innaugaration, but I found it neat that it was the day after Martin Luther King Day. I also notice that I am just now really feeling the impact of Obama becoming president. He's young, vibrant, afro-american, and I think really "gets it". I know he has a lot of work to do. A lot has been dumped in his lap. I hope he gets re-elected so he has the time to really do what we need.
Hip Hip Horray!!!! And I have no sympathy for Bush at all. I honestly believe he was incompetent and has mental issues. He should had been removed based on that a long time ago. I am a social worker. I don't say that about Bush out of anger, etc. I honestly, professionally, believe he had mental issues that interfered with his job.
Its a new day.

Heineken Helen · January 2009

know1 wrote:

Just more proof that an unfortunately large segment of the population treat politics with utter childishness.

Is there a BETTER way to treat it?

Heineken Helen · January 2009

Drew263 wrote:

What wonderful class shown by liberals. So enlightened, so classy.

:roll:

I suppose it would have been MUCH classier to shout up racist remarks a la Sarah Palin supporters? Or was it a death threat? Remind me... either way it sure does ooze class

fanch75 · January 2009

Pointing to worse behavior doesn't justify bad behavior.

If you murder person A, does that mean I'm a good chap because I only mug person B? Well you murdered, so who are you to talk crap about me?

Commy · January 2009

gvn2fly74 wrote:

please explain on how you would deal with terrorisim,I dont think you get it commy those SCUM BAGS would cut your head off and not even think twice, theres only one way and its a bullet in the head.

first of all-they are pissed off for a reason. no one blows themselves up at a bus stop without cause. you need to address that.

so in Gaza you end Israeli apratheid, sign some sort of agreement to the 67 borders-its a complex issues but over the years all Israel has done is take and bomb and build walls and set up checkpoints----they've turned Gaza into a concentration camp, its a breeding ground for desperation and terrorists. helping gaza to build some sort of production based economy would also go a long way.

with al qaeda-the US has troops stationed near mecca, Islam's holiest site. they take that religious fanaticism to new levels, that's part of it. part of it is the destruction caused by numerous US wars-pay reparations and get the fuck out, that would go a long way to prevent terrorism. stop supporting the unpopular royal family in saudi arabia-each case is different. I"m not even sure there really is a global group of terrorists called al quaeda, just individual groups working in their own specific areas. you need to deal with each individually.

each case is different, but one thing is constant. the more bombs you drop the more terrorists you create. you can't win a war against terrorism. its like war against jealousy or something like that-its not winnable.

catefrances · January 2009

fanch75 wrote:

Pointing to worse behavior doesn't justify bad behavior.

If you murder person A, does that mean I'm a good chap because I only mug person B? Well you murdered, so who are you to talk crap about me?

i agree, but explain to me how it was bad behaviour?
freedom of speech is a great thing. i suggest it be used wherever and whenever. certainly a giant public speactacle such as the inauguration is a good place to voice your opinion of the outgoing president. some of you americans just seem to get too darn uptight about the wrong things sometimes.

fanch75 · January 2009

Well, that's like your opinion, man.

Yeah, you have the right be disrespectful at an inauguration, but it doesn't mean that IMO that you should do it. I don't think one should heckle Obama as he is sworn in. I don't think one should heckle Bush as he ceremoniously leaves. Can, yes. Should, no.

catefrances · January 2009

fanch75 wrote:

Well, that's like your opinion, man.

Yeah, you have the right be disrespectful at an inauguration, but it doesn't mean that IMO that you should do it. I don't think one should heckle Obama as he is sworn in. I don't think one should heckle Bush as he ceremoniously leaves. Can, yes. Should, no.

yep it totally is my opinion. and i think bush should be heckled not only as he ceremoniously leaves office but he should also be questioned at every given opportunity. after what hes done he deserves no rest. he should be constantly reminded of what happened on his watch and how poorly it was handled.

chromiam · January 2009

Heatherj43 wrote:

I didn't watch the innaugaration, but I found it neat that it was the day after Martin Luther King Day. I also notice that I am just now really feeling the impact of Obama becoming president. He's young, vibrant, afro-american, and I think really "gets it". I know he has a lot of work to do. A lot has been dumped in his lap. I hope he gets re-elected so he has the time to really do what we need.

It's Day 1 and already calling for re-election.... way too early for that... let's see what he can do over the long haul.

The Juggler · January 2009

those people have absolutely no class. and it was when he was being introduced on the dais not when he was in the helicopter. scumbags.

decides2dream · January 2009

fanch75 wrote:

Well, that's like your opinion, man.

Yeah, you have the right be disrespectful at an inauguration, but it doesn't mean that IMO that you should do it. I don't think one should heckle Obama as he is sworn in. I don't think one should heckle Bush as he ceremoniously leaves. Can, yes. Should, no.

wow...we're so in agreement today! stranger things have happened, i'm sure.

that was the point i've tried to make a few times over on this subject, of course, not nearly as succinctly. you bet...can, yes....should, no...imo. and i said as much earlier - fuck bush, it's not about respect for him at all as i have none...it's of respect for the day, the event, and the new president. differing perspectives as ever.......

cincybearcat · January 2009

Heatherj43 wrote:

And I have no sympathy for Bush at all. I honestly believe he was incompetent and has mental issues. He should had been removed based on that a long time ago. I am a social worker. I don't say that about Bush out of anger, etc. I honestly, professionally, believe he had mental issues that interfered with his job.
Its a new day.

You are one hell of a social worker...diagnosing mental illness from snipets of TV. Funny, the only Social worker I ever knew needed her own shrink.

decides2dream · January 2009

catefrances wrote:

fanch75 wrote:

Pointing to worse behavior doesn't justify bad behavior.

If you murder person A, does that mean I'm a good chap because I only mug person B? Well you murdered, so who are you to talk crap about me?

i agree, but explain to me how it was bad behaviour?
freedom of speech is a great thing. i suggest it be used wherever and whenever. certainly a giant public speactacle such as the inauguration is a good place to voice your opinion of the outgoing president. some of you americans just seem to get too darn uptight about the wrong things sometimes.

uptight, as in, people who get annoyed if someone dares say 'bless you' when they sneeze?

i dind't know expressing an opinion on a topic constitutes being 'uptight.'

i've said it often enough....it was disrespectful to the DAY, to all of us, to obama. it was a celebration of our NEW president. obama managed to be utterly respectful and classy.....as he should be, and as the occasion warranted. there has been, and will continue to be, plenty of opportunity to express all dissent, outrage, etc, at bush...or whomever else.

imo it's akin to attending someone's wedding, and then being rude, 'expressing yourself'...b/c you do not approve one of the guests in attendance. sure, it may be your 'right'....but i do think it's in poor taste to the guests of honor, or your hosts. differing perspectives, absolutely. i don't think ANYone denies the *right* to such freedom of expression, just the appropriateness of the time/place. and so it goes......

Commy · January 2009

decides2dream wrote:

uptight, as in, people who get annoyed if someone dares say 'bless you' when they sneeze?

i dind't know expressing an opinion on a topic constitutes being 'uptight.'

i've said it often enough....it was disrespectful to the DAY, to all of us, to obama. it was a celebration of our NEW president. obama managed to be utterly respectful and classy.....as he should be, and as the occasion warranted. there has been, and will continue to be, plenty of opportunity to express all dissent, outrage, etc, at bush...or whomever else.

imo it's akin to attending someone's wedding, and then being rude, 'expressing yourself'...b/c you do not approve one of the guests in attendance. sure, it may be your 'right'....but i do think it's in poor taste to the guests of honor, or your hosts. differing perspectives, absolutely. i don't think ANYone denies the *right* to such freedom of expression, just the appropriateness of the time/place. and so it goes......

being a jackass at a wedding isn't even in the same ballpark as telling Bush to fuck off. he is a mass murderer...he has the blood of millions of people on his hands. if people are pissed about bush's decisions...as I think they should be-they should express that. as was said earlier -respect is earned. I don't care if its his dad's funeral, if I'm there I'm reminding him that what he has done will have consequences.

catefrances · January 2009

decides2dream wrote:

uptight, as in, people who get annoyed if someone dares say 'bless you' when they sneeze?

yep as uptight as that. maybe moreso. i do ask politely that the person not bless me in the future. and i tell them why. simple.

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