Update on the situation with my good friend
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blackredyellow wrote:Does she have any close girl friends that she trusts? Maybe talking to one of them could be an option, I would think they are seeing the same things that you are seeing.
Most of our close group knows that this guy is a prick but I don't think any of us realized the extent, the verbal abuse. I know her best friend and was contemplating calling her to see if she was aware of the entire situation."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:Most of our close group knows that this guy is a prick but I don't think any of us realized the extent, the verbal abuse. I know her best friend and was contemplating calling her to see if she was aware of the entire situation.
That might be a good idea, maybe at first not tell her everything you know, but feel her out a bit. I dunno... it could make this girl pissed at her best friend if she expresses her concerns to her (especially if the friend is married).My whole life
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My advice is always the same on these types of threads... let her marry him, divorce him, then take half his money.:D Hopefully it's more than $55,000!!;)
Which by the way is a lot of fucking money for a wedding. Actually, I don't know too much about the costs of weddings.. but that seems like a lot.Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.0 -
Trailer wrote:My advice is always the same on these types of threads... let her marry him, divorce him, then take half his money.:D Hopefully it's more than $55,000!!;)
Which by the way is a lot of fucking money for a wedding. Actually, I don't know too much about the costs of weddings.. but that seems like a lot.
Only problem with that is that they guy does not have a job. He was booted from the Correction's Officer academy about 6-8 months ago and hasn't had a real job since then. He picks up some odd jobs here and there but drinks what little money he makes away. She on the other hand has a good career plus works a second job to pay for the wedding as well as all their bills. So what would most likely happen is that he would take half her money."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
lot of great advice already on here, just gonna throw in my two cents:
okay, if he's leaving for the weekend, and her friends already suspect him of being a douche, why not have her friends and you take her out this weekend, then calmly and nonjudgementally explain to her all of your concerns for her. give her a chance to speak as well. with him not there to isolate her and make her feel like she's alone maybe there's a chance you guys can get through to her. good luck...
ugh, a failed corrections officer? i can picture this guy perfectly. maybe a bat to the face could be a good fallback option. not that i'm condoning violence!0 -
mammasan wrote:Only problem with that is that they guy does not have a job. He was booted from the Correction's Officer academy about 6-8 months ago and hasn't had a real job since then. He picks up some odd jobs here and there but drinks what little money he makes away. She on the other hand has a good career plus works a second job to pay for the wedding as well as all their bills. So what would most likely happen is that he would take half her money.
So this situation is worse than I thought. hmmmm Yeah, I'd get her the fuck away real quick like.NERDS!0 -
jesus. i don't really get why some girls put up with all that.... it sounds horrible.
she's lucky she has you there to support her, hopefully she makes the right choice, whatever it is.
you seem like a great guy and i hope everything works out for you and your friend. just remember to stay safe yourself, if the guy is as much of a douche as you say he is - and does all those things to the so-called woman he 'loves', he seems like the type of guy who would do something stupid and drastic if he felt need be.live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
mammasan wrote:if I ever find out that he has hit her or continues to verbal abuse her that I found fucking bury him. He gets defensive and starts telling me to fuck off and mind my own business. I tell him that the happiness and well being of my friends is my business and that he had better tread lightly when dealing with me and get back in my car and drive off.
I know I shouldn't have approached him but I just couldn't stop myself. I didn't like this guy before but now after hearing how he talks to her I just want to kill him.
So you basically threatened him? Why am I the only person who thinks you are wrong? Are you and your 8 friends going after him with pitchforks and axes if he does something wrong?
You are women's hero on this board. In reality, you may have lost your friendship with her b/c of his rules. It's her choice to marry him. I've been in an abusive relationship with a boyfriend after my divorce. The victim often (oddly enough) protects the abuser, it can be a boyfriend/spouse/or parent.
The other day, when I first read about your concerns for her, I forgot to tell you this. I was married at a very young age to a verbally abusive man who also drank too much and was gone doing his own thing, but he was different that the fiance, in that he worked very hard. At the pool one day, as usual, I was complaining about his drinking, partying with the female college students at work, etc. to my sister's sister in law. Her brother was best friends with my husband. She got sick of my bitching and moaning and finally said, "how long are you going to put up with this?" I was shocked she said that to me, but it made me think. I think your best bet is to be a good listener. And yes weddings cost $55,000. I had a stripped down bare minimum non church wedding 11 years ago, nothing fancy and it cost $5,000, maybe $6,000.
You have a child, right? You may need to count to 10 and think first before threatening this verbally abusive drunk, you can't take care of your family if you are in jail. What if he hits you first and there are no witnesses? He could say you started it.9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
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iluvcats wrote:So you basically threatened him? Why am I the only person who thinks you are wrong? Are you and your 8 friends going after him with pitchforks and axes if he does something wrong?
You are women's hero on this board. In reality, you may have lost your friendship with her b/c of his rules. It's her choice to marry him. I've been in an abusive relationship with a boyfriend after my divorce. The victim often (oddly enough) protects the abuser, it can be a boyfriend/spouse/or parent.
The other day, when I first read about your concerns for her, I forgot to tell you this. I was married at a very young age to a verbally abusive man who also drank too much and played golf, but he was different that the fiance, in that he worked very hard. At the pool one day, as usual, I was complaining about his drinking, partying with the female college students at work, etc. to my sister's sister in law. Her brother was best friends with my husband. She got sick of my bitching and moaning and finally said, "how long are you going to put up with this?" I was shocked she said that to me, but it made me think. I think your best bet is to be a good listener. And yes weddings cost $55,000. I had a stripped down bare minimum non church wedding 11 years ago, nothing fancy and it cost $5,000, maybe $6,000.
You have a child, right? You may need to count to 10 and think first before threatening this verbally abusive drunk, you can't take care of your family if you are in jail. What if he hits you first and there are no witnesses? He could say you started it.
What's wrong with playing golf?'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
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The Champ wrote:What's wrong with playing golf?
nothing -- for those who can afford (to buy an expensive set of clubs) it or those who spend equal quality time with their mate and then play golf. I guess I said that b/c it was one more way for him to not be home. that's enough about my situation.9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
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Why do so many women stay in abusive relationships?
I don't get it...
she is as much of her own problem as the guy is....Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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He's verbally abusive, unemployed, not even paying for the $55,000 wedding...and probably more that's she's not telling you.
Hopefully she'll come around and realized he's worthless. I dunno...
Best of luck to you and your friend.PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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You did the right thing in talking to your friend. This is a tough situation to be in. Sometimes people see things a little clearer once they see them through someone else's eyes - I hope that's the case with your friend.
My best friend married a guy under similar circumstances - started off as verbal abuse, then she started having all these unexplained injuries. He wanted to give her a beautiful engagement ring - so he charged one for $10,000 on her credit card :rolleyes: He was unemployed, meanwhile she was working 3 jobs. I told her my concerns - I was her maid of honor and just cried throughout the wedding (def not tears of joy)! On her wedding day, she told me she understood why I was concerned and that they could always get divorced...which they did - almost exactly 1 year later. The breaking point was when she found out he had been cheating on her with the same woman since before they even got married. Fortunately no kids, so a pretty easy divorce, but not before he abused her even more physically. She wound up having to file bankruptcy. She really thought things would get better after they got married - she thought he just needed to know how much she loved him :rolleyes: But she's out now and doing a whole hell of a lot better without him.
Your friend may or may not go through with the wedding - she's gonna have to make that choice on her own. But it will definitely help her down the road just to know that you will be there for her.There's a light when my baby's in my arms0
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