I dont get it...whats is the deal with ARC?

irieinindy wrote:

If you met me on the street and said the exact same thing, it wouldn't even phase me, but here-I just have a hard time letting someone say that and not letting them know that I think they are an idiot.

I do appreciate the debate back and forth, I learn as well. pjgirl2010 and I went at it all afternoon, but we agree to disagree. Pulaski on the other hand, just doesn't get it, at all-in my opinion.

I personally like conversation that makes you think, such as today. I don't always have to be right, I see other points of view, just not his and I can't help it but to let him know.

I agree (yay!) with what you're saying about debating and making you think about things in a different way...that's a great thing, even if it's hard to get what you're trying to say in writing...sometimes it doesn't come across the same (like sarcasm or NOT sounding sarcastic!!)

i enjoyed going back and forth--got my brain working! thanks :-)

irieinindy wrote:

I got your name wrong! Won't happen again.
I also suck because I assumed Pulaski is a guy, sorry.

yeah...I can't believe you called me pjgirl2010 and not pearljgirl2010...the nerve of you

(see, this is one of those times when you can't hear the sarcasm)

doin'the-evolution wrote:

arc was beautiful last night.
completely, utterly, unquestionably beautiful.

surreal. he sounded out of this world. unforgettable moment.

pulaski wrote:

why is everyone so crazy about this song? its garbage, trash, its not even a song. why does everyone make a big deal about it?

i dont get it

Have you seen/heard it live? Its been a while since the hair on my neck has stood up like it did at Vancouver II...

JaneNY wrote:

If you don't know, maybe you don't deserve to know. Figure it out.

Seriously? Nice attitude.

doin'the-evolution wrote:

i know right... did you get goosebumps as well?
not many people between us looked like fans... very few anyways... i dont think they realised how lucky they were....

I totally got goosebumps!!! I had never heard it before and didn't even realize why he wrote it until I asked yahamita about it later. Even so, I knew it was beautiful and special and want to hear it again!!!

I know, a little bit late to respond to this, but i gotta say something. ;-)

augustwest wrote:

im not saying the only way to express feelings/emotions is through words...rather just that i have a difficult time understanding the TRUE meaning of a song without any words in it.

who knew arc was about Copenhagen?...when you heard it for the first time did you automatically say "oh, thats about Copehagen"? i didn't.

personally speaking i have a hard time knowing what a song is about without any words. sure it's still a song, but not necessarily everyone thinks the same way as me.

keep in mind some classical songs/instrumentals are actually about actual specific things...not just merely aboutconveying general emotions/feelings.

Right, but what about hearing a song in a foreign language? Although it has lyrics you don’t immediately (or will never) understand what it’s about. You don’t know the meaning, but does that mean you can’t enjoy or even love it?

I guess most of you are native-english-speakers, and most songs on the radio etc. are in English, so you can understand the lyrics at first or second listen. But people whose mother tongue isn’t English, sometimes never know what all the songs on the radio are about. The still have favourite songs etc.
I’m not saying that lyrics aren’t important. A big factor about my love for pj are the lyrics, but it’s not the lyrics you respond to first. If it where, people would never enjoy songs they don’t understand.

pulaski wrote:

ive read all the comments, and what i take out of it is, that if Eddie made a 1 min moment of silence track on Riot Act instead of ARC, would you all feel just as moved and attached to that kind of song because it had "meaning"? even though the track is nothing but dead air (no pun intended).

Like many have said before, “arc” gives me goosebumps. I really like it. It touches me emotionally, and this has not so much to do with it’s originally meaning. Songs should touch you emotionally; they should make you dance, sing or cry. If they do, they’re good.
Even if you don’t know the initial meaning of a chant like “wolf” or “arc”, you can feel the emotion. Words wouldn’t describe the feelings (pain etc.) better.


Alright, that’s my two cents. I just love ed’s chants and I wouldn’t mind if he’d make a whole record with songs (or whatever you will call them ;-) ) like this.

brainofme wrote:

I know, a little bit late to respond to this, but i gotta say something. ;-)



Right, but what about hearing a song in a foreign language? Although it has lyrics you don’t immediately (or will never) understand what it’s about. You don’t know the meaning, but does that mean you can’t enjoy or even love it?

I guess most of you are native-english-speakers, and most songs on the radio etc. are in English, so you can understand the lyrics at first or second listen. But people whose mother tongue isn’t English, sometimes never know what all the songs on the radio are about. The still have favourite songs etc.
I’m not saying that lyrics aren’t important. A big factor about my love for pj are the lyrics, but it’s not the lyrics you respond to first. If it where, people would never enjoy songs they don’t understand.



Like many have said before, “arc” gives me goosebumps. I really like it. It touches me emotionally, and this has not so much to do with it’s originally meaning. Songs should touch you emotionally; they should make you dance, sing or cry. If they do, they’re good.
Even if you don’t know the initial meaning of a chant like “wolf” or “arc”, you can feel the emotion. Words wouldn’t describe the feelings (pain etc.) better.


Alright, that’s my two cents. I just love ed’s chants and I wouldn’t mind if he’d make a whole record with songs (or whatever you will call them ;-) ) like this.

right, foreign language songs are something i forgot about and i am a fan of them(spanish cumbias). i guess what im saying is that if i dont know/understand the lyrics the song doesn't usually hit on the same level as it could when i know/understand the words. bottomline is that it's a personal thing and some people have to have lyrics to be able to fully connect to the song.

brainofme wrote:

see, for me, like for so many people around the world, most of the songs i/we hear - whether it's cds or radio - are in a foreign language. i always wondered what it's like to understand all the sh** that gets airtime everywhere. i'm often very thankful that i don't understand everything on the radio. bad songs would be even worse. ;-)

but of course you're right: meaningful and awesome lyrics raise a song to another level. they turn the song to a poem. but they are not necessary to feel the emotion.

imagine...loving a song...not knowing what the words mean...and then, finding out one day, what the words mean...only to be disappointed that it wasn't as great as you originally thought...

i think i'd rather know the words up front lol

pulaski wrote:

why is everyone so crazy about this song? its garbage, trash, its not even a song. why does everyone make a big deal about it?

i dont get it

Nice respect for those 9 fans lost at Roskilde, jerk as you might say!!