is zero a number???

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    walrus wrote:
    zero not a number
    black - absence of color
    That's not true. Black IS a colour, the colour of an object that emits and reflects no light at all.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    urbanhippie wrote:
    I thought zero is a number in the same way negative numbers are :confused:
    Ah well, this is why I gave up on Maths as soon as possible...
    Maths is evil.

    I am absolutely hopeless with numbers. So bad at Maths at school. The day my GCSE exam was done and dusted was one of the best feelings ever. I think it's because maths is logical and I have no place for logic in my life.
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  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Maths is evil.

    I am absolutely hopeless with numbers. So bad at Maths at school. The day my GCSE exam was done and dusted was one of the best feelings ever. I think it's because maths is logical and I have no place for logic in my life.
    Yeah me too. Although I got a pretty good grade in my Maths GCSE. A long, long time ago mind :o I'm sooo glad now my eldest has moved onto A-level maths...it means I can abandon all pretence at helping him with his homework ;)
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    urbanhippie wrote:
    Yeah me too. Although I got a pretty good grade in my Maths GCSE. A long, long time ago mind :o I'm sooo glad now my eldest has moved onto A-level maths...it means I can abandon all pretence at helping him with his homework ;)
    Hah :D I got a B in GCSE which was above my expectation but considerably lower than the expectations of my teacher who had forced me into staying in the top set as if to give me mathematical ability by osmosis or something :rolleyes:

    I then dropped it and found A-level Physics excruciating until I dropped it after AS-level :p The level of Maths needed to do it, in the words of my teacher, exceeded that of GCSE and yet he made no attempt to help me out, he just liked saying to the whole class "So who here doesn't do Maths again?", meaning me.

    Bastard.

    I do think 0 is a number though. If 1 is a numerical representative of a single item then surely 0 is a numerical representative of no items, it shouldn't matter that it represents nothingness, the signifier is still something.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    off the top of my head....

    yes zero is a number.
    if zero was not a number then what would the negative digits be?

    numbers are everything and everywhere.

    i could go into further detail about the universe and mathematics
    but i am cooking breakfast and have a head ache.

    what about mathematics in word problems?

    that shit is brutal most times.

    edit:
    had fun actually in class doing this shit last week.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HYHG3fuzvk
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    walrus wrote:
    black - absence of color
    hahaha, this makes no sense.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    _outlaw wrote:
    hahaha, this makes no sense.

    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    chadwick wrote:
    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
    Subtractive Colour Theory says it is :)
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    chadwick wrote:
    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
    darkness is the absence of light. Black is a color.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    _outlaw wrote:
    darkness is the absence of light. Black is a color.
    to me its the same shit.
    i could be wrong, darkness is black, yes?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    It's merely a point of reference. There's no such thing as nothing as a state of existence in the real world/universe....she no exist boss...

    Zero is an invention by man.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    chadwick wrote:
    to me its the same shit.
    i could be wrong, darkness is black, yes?
    if you want them to be the same thing, then that's fine, but I separate them into two different categories. sort of like how "lightness" and white shouldn't be the same thing, maybe. whatever, i guess.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's merely a point of reference. There's no such thing as nothing as a state of existence in the real world/universe....she no exist boss...

    Zero is an invention by man.

    i disagree.

    0 starts the ladder of digits that are positive or negative.
    -9 -8 -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

    zero is in fact a very important number.

    if you had 1,000,000 dollars and i all of a sudden had a magical wand
    and i erase 2 zeros, you don't have as much money as you once did.
    10,000.

    what if i am giving and give you extra zero.
    then you are getting pretty wealthy.
    100,000,000

    edit: my argument is lame i know.
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  • suns rival
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    O is a letter. :D
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    suns rival wrote:
    O is a letter. :D

    this much we know. and that is why when i repeat or give out a phone number i say zero not o for orange. :p:D
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  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    It has to be:

    -2,-1,0,1,2 Know what I mean?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Austicman wrote:
    It has to be:

    -2,-1,0,1,2 Know what I mean?

    it has to be? why so?

    it has no value within that number line. does a number have to have value i wonder. cause zero has none regardless of where it is placed. all it does is mark the absence of value. imo. ;):)
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Hey put another 0 next to end of my annual salary and IT'S a damn number to me!

    Nuff said.


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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    when in doubt, ask schoolhouse rock


    Zero is My Hero

    :D
  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    catefrances wrote:

    does a number have to have value i wonder.

    Your the edumacated one you figure it out! :p
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