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is zero a number???

catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
edited December 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
what do you think? or does someone know for sure? i dont... mathematics isnt my thing. :)


i think its a place marker. or the absence of a number. which might well be the same thing. :)
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,563
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)

    Knock yourself out.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,439
    I was always taught that it isn't but I did a quick google search and everyone is saying it is. Now I'm all confused.
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  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    catefrances wrote:
    what do you think? or does someone know for sure? i dont... mathematics isnt my thing. :)


    i think its a place marker. or the absence of a number. which might well be the same thing. :)
    is white a color? how about black;) :p
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    For my students, it's important to learn..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    The Champ wrote:
    For my students, it's important to learn..

    well then teach me what it is. not that im your student. i just was wondering. :)
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    is white a color? how about black;) :p

    shades,

    and yes 0 is a number.

    Or just ask the ancient Arabs....or errr Indians?..Ummm Arabs in the 4th century.

    You can use the time machine...errr is time travel possible? Yes, just ask Albert, NO not Albert Einstein, Fat Albert.
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    if we took the time to invent "imaginary numbers" then we sure as hell better respect zero's right to be a number... i gave up on math when we reached "imaginary numbers"... im a grown up... i dont have time for that make believe bull shit

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  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    MrBrian wrote:
    shades,

    and yes 0 is a number.

    Or just ask the ancient Arabs....or errr Indians?..Ummm Arabs in the 4th century.

    You can use the time machine...errr is time travel possible? Yes, just ask Albert, NO not Albert Einstein, Fat Albert.
    FAT ALBERT knows ALL:D
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    sgossard3 wrote:
    if we took the time to invent "imaginary numbers" then we sure as hell better respect zero's right to be a number... i gave up on math when we reached "imaginary numbers"... im a grown up... i dont have time for that make believe bull shit

    MATH SUCKS
    that's why i went to art school. no math lol

    and as far as i know, zero is a number.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    catefrances wrote:
    well then teach me what it is. not that im your student. i just was wondering. :)

    Just think of it as a starting point and you'll be fine :)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Zero is a number. It is included in the Real Numberline, Rational Numberline, Integer Numberline, and Whole Numberline.
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    chiquimonkey wrote:
    that's why i went to art school. no math lol
    amen to that brutha!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    The Champ wrote:
    Just think of it as a starting point and you'll be fine :)..

    but what about 7089???
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    sgossard3 wrote:
    amen to that brutha!
    it's sistah but yeah, F math lol although i did take a class on sacred geometry which involved numbers, but it was badass. didn't give me a headache like math normally does lol
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    catefrances wrote:
    but what about 7089???

    It's okay..it's between 1 and -1..just holding the spot..or you can think of it as a number ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    The Champ wrote:
    It's okay..it's between 1 and -1..just holding the spot..or you can think of it as a number ;)..

    well that fits in with my place marker theory. :D
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    catefrances wrote:
    well that fits in with my place marker theory. :D

    As long as you understand in your particular way, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    I thought zero is a number in the same way negative numbers are :confused:
    Ah well, this is why I gave up on Maths as soon as possible...
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  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    0 is the number your left with when you have diminished all quantites.
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  • TrixieCatTrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Zero is on the number line so I am going with yes.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    walrus wrote:
    zero not a number
    black - absence of color
    That's not true. Black IS a colour, the colour of an object that emits and reflects no light at all.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    urbanhippie wrote:
    I thought zero is a number in the same way negative numbers are :confused:
    Ah well, this is why I gave up on Maths as soon as possible...
    Maths is evil.

    I am absolutely hopeless with numbers. So bad at Maths at school. The day my GCSE exam was done and dusted was one of the best feelings ever. I think it's because maths is logical and I have no place for logic in my life.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Maths is evil.

    I am absolutely hopeless with numbers. So bad at Maths at school. The day my GCSE exam was done and dusted was one of the best feelings ever. I think it's because maths is logical and I have no place for logic in my life.
    Yeah me too. Although I got a pretty good grade in my Maths GCSE. A long, long time ago mind :o I'm sooo glad now my eldest has moved onto A-level maths...it means I can abandon all pretence at helping him with his homework ;)
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    urbanhippie wrote:
    Yeah me too. Although I got a pretty good grade in my Maths GCSE. A long, long time ago mind :o I'm sooo glad now my eldest has moved onto A-level maths...it means I can abandon all pretence at helping him with his homework ;)
    Hah :D I got a B in GCSE which was above my expectation but considerably lower than the expectations of my teacher who had forced me into staying in the top set as if to give me mathematical ability by osmosis or something :rolleyes:

    I then dropped it and found A-level Physics excruciating until I dropped it after AS-level :p The level of Maths needed to do it, in the words of my teacher, exceeded that of GCSE and yet he made no attempt to help me out, he just liked saying to the whole class "So who here doesn't do Maths again?", meaning me.

    Bastard.

    I do think 0 is a number though. If 1 is a numerical representative of a single item then surely 0 is a numerical representative of no items, it shouldn't matter that it represents nothingness, the signifier is still something.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    off the top of my head....

    yes zero is a number.
    if zero was not a number then what would the negative digits be?

    numbers are everything and everywhere.

    i could go into further detail about the universe and mathematics
    but i am cooking breakfast and have a head ache.

    what about mathematics in word problems?

    that shit is brutal most times.

    edit:
    had fun actually in class doing this shit last week.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    walrus wrote:
    black - absence of color
    hahaha, this makes no sense.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    _outlaw wrote:
    hahaha, this makes no sense.

    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    chadwick wrote:
    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
    Subtractive Colour Theory says it is :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    chadwick wrote:
    sure it does.
    black isn't a color.

    http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
    darkness is the absence of light. Black is a color.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    _outlaw wrote:
    darkness is the absence of light. Black is a color.
    to me its the same shit.
    i could be wrong, darkness is black, yes?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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