Never had the urge to beat a child until now....

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  • dawng
    dawng Posts: 644
    Without knowing all the facts around this, my first reaction is that the parents are totally at fault here. I could see the kid perhaps getting out of site for a minute or two - but to go off alone for 30 minutes? I would have been frantically searching for my kid if he was out of my sight for more than a few seconds!

    This is really sad, hopefully this kid will get some psychiatric help!
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    it IS a disgusting and vile act, at ANY age....and a sign of cruelty and amorality at any age as well.
    .

    you have obviously never been to a alligator/reptile park
    feeding a live chicken to the gators is the best part!

    and those saltwater crocs are even more vicious!

    how about feeding a live mouse to a pet python?

    your little sister's goldfish to the family cat?

    are those vile acts of cruelty that will result in a person becoming a serial killer?

    the kid is 7-this is about the parents, how they are raising him and where the hell were they?
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Get_Right wrote:
    you have obviously never been to a alligator/reptile park
    feeding a live chicken to the gators is the best part!

    and those saltwater crocs are even more vicious!

    how about feeding a live mouse to a pet python?

    your little sister's goldfish to the family cat?

    are those vile acts of cruelty that will result in a person becoming a serial killer?

    the kid is 7-this is about the parents, how they are raising him and where the hell were they?


    obviously...animals eat other live animals, out in the wild...and sure, as pets. NOT the same thing. this child willfully threw different animals to this croc, and he ALSO bashed in the heads of a few lizards? do children usually do THAT?


    btw - feeding the goldfish to your cat IS cruel. it's cruel towards the sister, and cruel towards the fish. most healthy individuals would not want to willingly harm a pet. now, a one-time incident may or may not lead to anything. this incident may or may not. however, it was willful, it was filled with intent and cruelty, particularly the bashing of heads...so to me a sign *something* is wrong. and if you want to argue against him ever being a serial killer, be my guest. i have not once insinuated it is indeed guaranteed....just simply that cruelty and abuse of small animals as a child has indeed been a proven correlating facor of serial killers. me, no matter what...i think it unhealthy behavior that i would want checked out. and child or adult, there should be consequences for such actions. harming animals 'just because you can'...should NOT be tolerated. if he abused a human in such a way it would be a whole other story....there most definitely should be consequences even if it's 'just' an animal.


    and since my FIRST post in this thread, i have called out to the parents responsibility!
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Get_Right wrote:
    you have obviously never been to a alligator/reptile park
    feeding a live chicken to the gators is the best part!

    and those saltwater crocs are even more vicious!

    how about feeding a live mouse to a pet python?

    your little sister's goldfish to the family cat?

    are those vile acts of cruelty that will result in a person becoming a serial killer?

    the kid is 7-this is about the parents, how they are raising him and where the hell were they?

    exactly, maybe the kid just was trying to be like the croc hunter guy? Kids do that, copy what they see. It should be about the parents more. How they didnt keep an eye on the child for starters.
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    MrBrian wrote:
    exactly, maybe the kid just was trying to be like the croc hunter guy? Kids do that, copy what they see. It should be about the parents more. How they didnt keep an eye on the child for starters.


    did the croc hunter guy ever bash in the heads of lizards just for the fuck of it?


    believe me, i am well aware of copy-cat behavior in children and then some. i was an educator and am well schooled in child psych. imo, this is 'beyond' all that.


    bottomline...absolutely it;s on the parents. none the less, the child absolutely should have a psych evaluation imo. better safe than sorry...and already it's a damn sorry state. some animal's lives cruelly ended, and from a species perspective, supposedly difficult or near irreplaceable...which is very sad for all. however, better to check out the child, the family situation, for the good of the child...and society.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    obviously...animals eat other live animals, out in the wild...and sure, as pets. NOT the same thing. this child willfully threw different animals to this croc, and he ALSO bashed in the heads of a few lizards? do children usually do THAT?
    Usually, no. We dont know the kid's background. Could be he lives on a ranch or someplace where killing animals is common and is indifferent to the treatment of animals. So many unknown variables.

    btw - feeding the goldfish to your cat IS cruel. it's cruel towards the sister, and cruel towards the fish.

    Im sorry about your fish really I am. ;)
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Get_Right wrote:
    Usually, no. We dont know the kid's background. Could be he lives on a ranch or someplace where killing animals is common and is indifferent to the treatment of animals. So many unknown variables.




    Im sorry about your fish really I am. ;)



    i will give you that there are many unknown variables, but even living on a ranch...i'm sorry...absolute indifference to life i find doubtful. you want to disagree with the severity of the behavior...a-ok of course! who am i to say? i am merely expressing my own opinion on it. bottomline, i think it's fucked...and an investigation into his psych...and into his parents and their parenting, is certainly warrented.




    no one has ever killed one of my pets. thankfully. :)
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  • How are you people even arguing about this?maybe he lived on a ranch? what the fuck ? who cares? what this kid did was wrong at any age. next some people are going to be saying, "oh he is just a kid, he doesn't know any better." maybe killing animals is commonplace where he comes from? yeah ok, bashing animals heads in is ok at any family ranch! woohoo!

    if my kids grow up playing violent video games and watching violent tv, will it be "ok" if they go kill someone and now its excusable because we condone that kind of activity in my house?!!?? Give me a break.
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    How are you people even arguing about this?maybe he lived on a ranch? what the fuck ? who cares? what this kid did was wrong at any age. next some people are going to be saying, "oh he is just a kid, he doesn't know any better." maybe killing animals is commonplace where he comes from? yeah ok, bashing animals heads in is ok at any family ranch! woohoo!

    if my kids grow up playing violent video games and watching violent tv, will it be "ok" if they go kill someone and now its excusable because we condone that kind of activity in my house?!!?? Give me a break.




    ahhhhh...thank you. :)


    seriously, it's just plain fucked.
    the end.
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  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    i don t want to read that anymore ...
    it makes me ...
    something had be wrong ..what did his parents or other person did to him
    he needs help
    and his parents too
  • :eek: Ditto to those that say the parents should be held accuntable. This is just screwed up beyond belief.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    wow. isn't cruelty to animals considered the first sign of mental illness ?


    hmmm... i'm pretty sure its when you set fire to your face? or staple your mother to a submarine?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    smg9779 wrote:

    i'm just gutted i dont sponsor any of those rare animals, or i'd be off work for at least 7 weeks for pet funerals and such like.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    How are you people even arguing about this?maybe he lived on a ranch? what the fuck ? who cares? what this kid did was wrong at any age. next some people are going to be saying, "oh he is just a kid, he doesn't know any better." maybe killing animals is commonplace where he comes from? yeah ok, bashing animals heads in is ok at any family ranch! woohoo!

    if my kids grow up playing violent video games and watching violent tv, will it be "ok" if they go kill someone and now its excusable because we condone that kind of activity in my house?!!?? Give me a break.


    jeeze I dunno, perhaps watching the ole man shoot, trap vermin or slaughtering pigs or chickens or or crocs or cows or lambs or sheep or ostrich might have an influence on how a person feels about animals in general, maybe even a 7 year old kid who is highly influenced by his father.

    not saying its right. just saying the conclusions here about giving the kid a beating or feeding him to a croc are a bit extreme.

    actually, if a person doesn't know the difference between what is right and what is what is wrong-and the commits a violent act, our society does excuse that behavior-its called not guilty by reason of insanity.

    if you cant teach your kids the difference between what is a game or actors on TV, and they go out an kill someone, it just might be excused.

    But of course, Im just playing devils advocate, which I love to do. I dont condone the kids actions, just saying, the kid could be mentally handicapped-YOU DONT KNOW.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Get_Right wrote:
    jeeze I dunno, perhaps watching the ole man shoot, trap vermin or slaughtering pigs or chickens or or crocs or cows or lambs or sheep or ostrich might have an influence on how a person feels about animals in general, maybe even a 7 year old kid who is highly influenced by his father.

    not saying its right. just saying the conclusions here about giving the kid a beating or feeding him to a croc are a bit extreme.

    actually, if a person doesn't know the difference between what is right and what is what is wrong-and the commits a violent act, our society does excuse that behavior-its called not guilty by reason of insanity.

    if you cant teach your kids the difference between what is a game or actors on TV, and they go out an kill someone, it just might be excused.

    But of course, Im just playing devils advocate here. I dont condone the kids actions, just saying, the kid could be mentally handicapped-YOU DONT KNOW.


    totally agree. the people who say 'lets beat the kid up' or suggest throwing him to the crocs are just as bad... i mean its a kid?! he might have grown up the son of a hunter or something.

    ok so he threw some rare Guatemalan pygmy hamster to a crocodile.. do you really want him dead, or do you really want to beat up a tiny kid? ... weird :confused:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    if the kid is mentally challenged (as in retardation) he shouldn't have been left alone at *any* point.

    at first my gut feeling was to feed him to the croc, but as i think about it, feed the *parents* to the croc and get that kid some help.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    but as i think about it, feed the *parents* to the croc and get that kid some help.

    EXACTLY
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    dunkman wrote:

    ok so he threw some rare Guatemalan pygmy hamster to a crocodile..:confused:
    classic
  • oh obviously people saying "lets throw the kid to the crocs" are way off base as well but naturally there is no excuse for a person of any age to treat ANYTHING like this, I know that at like the age of 2 right after my sister was born I knew that hurting her or anyone or anything is wrong. As for the argument of watching daddy slaughter animals, its ludicrous. even if that kind of behavior is common place then the dad is at fault for not setting the boundaries of " this is why were doing this to these animals, son , its not alright to do it anywhere else." and if anything kids that grow up on ranches and farms have MORE respect and love for animals then most people because of being raised around them.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,344
    i have to laugh at the last few responses classic comedy holy shit you guys are great ,yeah beat the kid mean while the parents were probaly screwing in the bushes trying to get her pregnant so the kid can have someone to play with :eek:
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