anyone ever do Salvia Divinorum?

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  • Posts: 7,170
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    what's the best way to purchase this stuff? I've only smoked pot once and have absolutely no idea how to go about this. Helpz.
    I am in no way recommending it, you need to make your own choices. I would first go to http://www.erowid.org, read up on it if you havent already, then buy a bong. It's the only way to get a proper hit. Buy some 15x/20x salvia from any Head Shop (people say start with 5x but it doesn't do shit, just don't overdo the quantity and you'll be fine) then just take a hit and hold it in for about 30 seconds. Take another if you can. The effects come on fast and, if you are susceptible, damn strong. It is a very powerful drug. I have had no desire to do it since I last did a couple of months ago because, though I have never had a BAD trip, it is VERY powerful and I decided I don't need to be messing about without it at the moment. I did have some thought-provoking experiences though.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Just take some Acid :D
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  • Posts: 2,535
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I am in no way recommending it, you need to make your own choices. I would first go to http://www.erowid.org, read up on it if you havent already, then buy a bong. It's the only way to get a proper hit. Buy some 15x/20x salvia from any Head Shop (people say start with 5x but it doesn't do shit, just don't overdo the quantity and you'll be fine) then just take a hit and hold it in for about 30 seconds. Take another if you can. The effects come on fast and, if you are susceptible, damn strong. It is a very powerful drug. I have had no desire to do it since I last did a couple of months ago because, though I have never had a BAD trip, it is VERY powerful and I decided I don't need to be messing about without it at the moment. I did have some thought-provoking experiences though.


    Yea, I'm currently reading up on it right now. The experiences vary so wildly that i can't get a definite answer on what to expect. By all info, there is no definite info on what to expect. But, thank you for the advice! Like I said...completely unexperienced here.
  • Posts: 780
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    what's the best way to purchase this stuff? I've only smoked pot once and have absolutely no idea how to go about this. Helpz.


    If you have only smoked pot once, I can't say I reccommend this.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • Posts: 2,535
    MCG wrote:
    If you have only smoked pot once, I can't say I reccommend this.


    details. I'm looking for all and any advice.
  • Posts: 5,340
    I'm very curious about this - I've never seen it in head shops, then again I haven't looked for it. It sounds lovely but would probably make me sick - drugs tend to do that to me :o
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  • Posts: 14,125
    ill stick to a nice purple sativa thank you
  • Posts: 2,535
    Jennytree wrote:
    I'm very curious about this


    You and me both.
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    it annoys me slightly when people think they can use it as a substitute for marijuana and don't learn how to smoke it properly

    you have to really heat it up, and hold the smoke in as long as you can...when you exhale you will probably "break through" immediately and trip for probably 5 minutes although it definitely seems longer than that

    it also has a reverse tolerance so if you don't break through on your first try, try again

    i've had some really weird experiences on it but certainly nothing enlightening like shrooms

    it was cool seeing the tiles on my floor sing lateralus for me though in a female voice haha
    ..and you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable
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    hodge wrote:
    it annoys me slightly when people think they can use it as a substitute for marijuana and don't learn how to smoke it properly

    you have to really heat it up, and hold the smoke in as long as you can...when you exhale you will probably "break through" immediately and trip for probably 5 minutes although it definitely seems longer than that

    it also has a reverse tolerance so if you don't break through on your first try, try again

    i've had some really weird experiences on it but certainly nothing enlightening like shrooms

    it was cool seeing the tiles on my floor sing lateralus for me though in a female voice haha


    I've looked at about three sites worth on potency, how to consume, etc. I'm doing my homework. And, I think I'd pay money to have the floor sing lateralus to me. Just as long as it doesn't turn into something heavy and scary....like opiate.
  • Posts: 7,170
    Jennytree wrote:
    I'm very curious about this - I've never seen it in head shops, then again I haven't looked for it. It sounds lovely but would probably make me sick - drugs tend to do that to me :o
    Like I say, I've never had a BAD trip but I would never call salvia "lovely". It will knock you on your ass if you don't go into it prepared. You won't be able to comprehend just how it affects you until you try it. It can completely disintegrate reality in a way that you cant even describe in words. It's not like an acid or mushroom trip where you might see things or whatever, with salvia, seeing things is a moot point because 'seeing' and 'things' aren't necessarily fixed notions when you are tripping on it. Perception is very different.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Like I say, I've never had a BAD trip but I would never call salvia "lovely". It will knock you on your ass if you don't go into it prepared. You won't be able to comprehend just how it affects you until you try it. It can completely disintegrate reality in a way that you cant even describe in words. It's not like an acid or mushroom trip where you might see things or whatever, with salvia, seeing things is a moot point because 'seeing' and 'things' aren't necessarily fixed notions when you are tripping on it. Perception is very different.


    I read one account where the guy said "everything was strawberries. I can't fucking explain it but everything was literally, strawberries."


    Plus you got lateralus guy. This shit sounds crazy intense.
  • Posts: 7,170
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I read one account where the guy said "everything was strawberries. I can't fucking explain it but everything was literally, strawberries."


    Plus you got lateralus guy. This shit sounds crazy intense.
    The first time I broke through, which was maybe the third attempt, the last thing I could remember before it hit me was the taste of the smoke. Then the drug literally overwhelmed me and the taste was still the main focus. Thing is, I couldn't just taste it in my mouth. Suddenly every inch of my body was a sensory receptor for taste. I could taste the smoke from head to toe, as weird as that sounds. That was the weakest trip I have had on it as well. Just shows how it can blur your senses and perception. I think it is capable of simulating synaesthesia, the condition in which your senses overlap so you can smell sounds etc.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    The first time I broke through, which was maybe the third attempt, the last thing I could remember before it hit me was the taste of the smoke. Then the drug literally overwhelmed me and the taste was still the main focus. Thing is, I couldn't just taste it in my mouth. Suddenly every inch of my body was a sensory receptor for taste. I could taste the smoke from head to toe, as weird as that sounds. That was the weakest trip I have had on it as well. Just shows how it can blur your senses and perception. I think it is capable of simulating synaesthesia, the condition in which your senses overlap so you can smell sounds etc.

    I'm pretty torn. Want to try it, but everyone has such a different experience, kinda worried about what would happen. But, you only live once.
  • Posts: 7,170
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I'm pretty torn. Want to try it, but everyone has such a different experience, kinda worried about what would happen. But, you only live once.
    I neither recommend nor discourage anyone using it. I only discourage it if you intend to use it as a recreational drug. It's not. Stick to weed if you just want to get blazed. Salvia isn't exactly fun, it's more interesting and thought-provoking. It's such an intense and short-lived high with no side-effects that I know of that if you DO have a bad time, it will be over in a few minutes. I have never heard anything about flashbacks or any problems stemming from it's use. Just be careful if you do it, have a trip-sitter if you know anyone you can trust or if not, prepare a safe environment to do it in. Don't sit on a balcony for example ;)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I neither recommend nor discourage anyone using it. I only discourage it if you intend to use it as a recreational drug. It's not. Stick to weed if you just want to get blazed. Salvia isn't exactly fun, it's more interesting and thought-provoking. It's such an intense and short-lived high with no side-effects that I know of that if you DO have a bad time, it will be over in a few minutes. I have never heard anything about flashbacks or any problems stemming from it's use. Just be careful if you do it, have a trip-sitter if you know anyone you can trust or if not, prepare a safe environment to do it in. Don't sit on a balcony for example ;)


    Yea, I read that a dimly lit, enclosed room is the best place to do it if you don't have a friend there. I don't plan to use it as a past time, but I would like to experience once or twice. As for the getting messed up for the fun of it, if me and my g/f break up I'll try weed more than that one time but right now I'm with alcohol.
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    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    details. I'm looking for all and any advice.


    It is just that it can be a very intense trip. Like reality fades away and is replaced by a dream world. Sometimes I couldn't stop laughing but other times it was scary as fuck.

    I have smoked it with people who have had a very, very shitty time and said they would never do it again. Most of those people were quite innexperienced drug users.

    My advice:
    1) get at least 10x or you won't get any real benefit
    2) use a water bong
    3) hold your hit in as long as you can, you will probably not even remember blowing it out if you hold it in long enough
    4) do it in a dark, quiet, comfortable environment
    5) I have found music can really influence it, but make sure you know what will be playing for the next 15mins or so.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • Posts: 6,952
    ive done it around 15 times.....with using 20x. it was very messed up

    read up on erowid.
    http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
    this is a VERY helpful guide and you can read about various experiences of others. scroll down to find them.
    be very careful. its not a social drug.
    be safe and do not underestimate it.

    it is a very uncomfortable feeling for most and when i think of doing it now, i just shiver and cringe. the oncoming effects make your extremeties VERY prickly and then you just go to salvia land for a bit. lots of geometric shapes involved in my trips and you are just GONE to this place for a bit, engulfed in a very real trippy world that you believe you are experiencing. i was afraid a few times..but i was amazed and in wonder and in beautiful places other times too....with mushrooms, i always know im high, but with this stuff, sometimes you FORGET that you have smoked anything at all and it can be scary. i did it at home alone a couple times during the day and MAJOR paranoia hit....i thought my neighbors were listening at the door and shit...and i wasnt taking big hoots this day either, just playing with it, going in and out of the zone.

    the hardest and realest trip i went on was at a buddies house, i smoked it and was taken away to a bustling train station, the train was very geometric, made of all sorts of shapes, there were people from the 40's trying to get on the train, there were clouds in the sky, it was a dusty old wooden platform and i was scared, i could taste the dust in my mouth, the sun was bright. i didnt want to be there, i was saying stuff (my friend tells me, like "help" and "get me, get me") then i put my hand out up in the air, as to reach for help and at this time he reached down to me. his hands came through the clouds in the sky over the train station and his hand was this biological thing coming through the clouds to save me in this all geometric place, two worlds colliding...and we reached eachothers hands and he pulled me out of the station and i was on the couch again and was a little shook up, slammed the pipe down and said laughing, thats it im going home!


    i have some sitting on my shelf and there it shall sit for all time. i will never touch the stuff again. it had some definite long term side effects (for me) that were unpleasant and were on and off for MONTHS after. since it is relatively new in north american culture there have been very few studies to do with side effects.

    be safe with that shit and READ UP ON IT.
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    Be careful.
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    Thanks for looking out for me guys.

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