anyone ever do Salvia Divinorum?

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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Jennytree wrote:
    I'm very curious about this - I've never seen it in head shops, then again I haven't looked for it. It sounds lovely but would probably make me sick - drugs tend to do that to me :o
    Like I say, I've never had a BAD trip but I would never call salvia "lovely". It will knock you on your ass if you don't go into it prepared. You won't be able to comprehend just how it affects you until you try it. It can completely disintegrate reality in a way that you cant even describe in words. It's not like an acid or mushroom trip where you might see things or whatever, with salvia, seeing things is a moot point because 'seeing' and 'things' aren't necessarily fixed notions when you are tripping on it. Perception is very different.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Like I say, I've never had a BAD trip but I would never call salvia "lovely". It will knock you on your ass if you don't go into it prepared. You won't be able to comprehend just how it affects you until you try it. It can completely disintegrate reality in a way that you cant even describe in words. It's not like an acid or mushroom trip where you might see things or whatever, with salvia, seeing things is a moot point because 'seeing' and 'things' aren't necessarily fixed notions when you are tripping on it. Perception is very different.


    I read one account where the guy said "everything was strawberries. I can't fucking explain it but everything was literally, strawberries."


    Plus you got lateralus guy. This shit sounds crazy intense.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I read one account where the guy said "everything was strawberries. I can't fucking explain it but everything was literally, strawberries."


    Plus you got lateralus guy. This shit sounds crazy intense.
    The first time I broke through, which was maybe the third attempt, the last thing I could remember before it hit me was the taste of the smoke. Then the drug literally overwhelmed me and the taste was still the main focus. Thing is, I couldn't just taste it in my mouth. Suddenly every inch of my body was a sensory receptor for taste. I could taste the smoke from head to toe, as weird as that sounds. That was the weakest trip I have had on it as well. Just shows how it can blur your senses and perception. I think it is capable of simulating synaesthesia, the condition in which your senses overlap so you can smell sounds etc.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012 wrote:
    The first time I broke through, which was maybe the third attempt, the last thing I could remember before it hit me was the taste of the smoke. Then the drug literally overwhelmed me and the taste was still the main focus. Thing is, I couldn't just taste it in my mouth. Suddenly every inch of my body was a sensory receptor for taste. I could taste the smoke from head to toe, as weird as that sounds. That was the weakest trip I have had on it as well. Just shows how it can blur your senses and perception. I think it is capable of simulating synaesthesia, the condition in which your senses overlap so you can smell sounds etc.

    I'm pretty torn. Want to try it, but everyone has such a different experience, kinda worried about what would happen. But, you only live once.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I'm pretty torn. Want to try it, but everyone has such a different experience, kinda worried about what would happen. But, you only live once.
    I neither recommend nor discourage anyone using it. I only discourage it if you intend to use it as a recreational drug. It's not. Stick to weed if you just want to get blazed. Salvia isn't exactly fun, it's more interesting and thought-provoking. It's such an intense and short-lived high with no side-effects that I know of that if you DO have a bad time, it will be over in a few minutes. I have never heard anything about flashbacks or any problems stemming from it's use. Just be careful if you do it, have a trip-sitter if you know anyone you can trust or if not, prepare a safe environment to do it in. Don't sit on a balcony for example ;)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I neither recommend nor discourage anyone using it. I only discourage it if you intend to use it as a recreational drug. It's not. Stick to weed if you just want to get blazed. Salvia isn't exactly fun, it's more interesting and thought-provoking. It's such an intense and short-lived high with no side-effects that I know of that if you DO have a bad time, it will be over in a few minutes. I have never heard anything about flashbacks or any problems stemming from it's use. Just be careful if you do it, have a trip-sitter if you know anyone you can trust or if not, prepare a safe environment to do it in. Don't sit on a balcony for example ;)


    Yea, I read that a dimly lit, enclosed room is the best place to do it if you don't have a friend there. I don't plan to use it as a past time, but I would like to experience once or twice. As for the getting messed up for the fun of it, if me and my g/f break up I'll try weed more than that one time but right now I'm with alcohol.
  • MCGMCG Posts: 780
    details. I'm looking for all and any advice.


    It is just that it can be a very intense trip. Like reality fades away and is replaced by a dream world. Sometimes I couldn't stop laughing but other times it was scary as fuck.

    I have smoked it with people who have had a very, very shitty time and said they would never do it again. Most of those people were quite innexperienced drug users.

    My advice:
    1) get at least 10x or you won't get any real benefit
    2) use a water bong
    3) hold your hit in as long as you can, you will probably not even remember blowing it out if you hold it in long enough
    4) do it in a dark, quiet, comfortable environment
    5) I have found music can really influence it, but make sure you know what will be playing for the next 15mins or so.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    ive done it around 15 times.....with using 20x. it was very messed up

    read up on erowid.
    http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
    this is a VERY helpful guide and you can read about various experiences of others. scroll down to find them.
    be very careful. its not a social drug.
    be safe and do not underestimate it.

    it is a very uncomfortable feeling for most and when i think of doing it now, i just shiver and cringe. the oncoming effects make your extremeties VERY prickly and then you just go to salvia land for a bit. lots of geometric shapes involved in my trips and you are just GONE to this place for a bit, engulfed in a very real trippy world that you believe you are experiencing. i was afraid a few times..but i was amazed and in wonder and in beautiful places other times too....with mushrooms, i always know im high, but with this stuff, sometimes you FORGET that you have smoked anything at all and it can be scary. i did it at home alone a couple times during the day and MAJOR paranoia hit....i thought my neighbors were listening at the door and shit...and i wasnt taking big hoots this day either, just playing with it, going in and out of the zone.

    the hardest and realest trip i went on was at a buddies house, i smoked it and was taken away to a bustling train station, the train was very geometric, made of all sorts of shapes, there were people from the 40's trying to get on the train, there were clouds in the sky, it was a dusty old wooden platform and i was scared, i could taste the dust in my mouth, the sun was bright. i didnt want to be there, i was saying stuff (my friend tells me, like "help" and "get me, get me") then i put my hand out up in the air, as to reach for help and at this time he reached down to me. his hands came through the clouds in the sky over the train station and his hand was this biological thing coming through the clouds to save me in this all geometric place, two worlds colliding...and we reached eachothers hands and he pulled me out of the station and i was on the couch again and was a little shook up, slammed the pipe down and said laughing, thats it im going home!


    i have some sitting on my shelf and there it shall sit for all time. i will never touch the stuff again. it had some definite long term side effects (for me) that were unpleasant and were on and off for MONTHS after. since it is relatively new in north american culture there have been very few studies to do with side effects.

    be safe with that shit and READ UP ON IT.
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  • Thanks for looking out for me guys.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    Thanks for looking out for me guys.
    I recommend just doing mushrooms!

    Man, now they are fun!!!! :)
  • KellerKeller Posts: 177
    I read one account where the guy said "everything was strawberries. I can't fucking explain it but everything was literally, strawberries."

    Yeah i understand this quote very much so. The one time i tryed it i described everything as "striped hola hoops". I have never had a desire to do it since, that was 5 years ago. But i still enjoy mushrooms. Mushrooms are much better of an experience to me.
    "Be what you want to be, see what you came to see"
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,615
    hodge wrote:
    it annoys me slightly when people think they can use it as a substitute for marijuana and don't learn how to smoke it properly

    you have to really heat it up, and hold the smoke in as long as you can...when you exhale you will probably "break through" immediately and trip for probably 5 minutes although it definitely seems longer than that

    it also has a reverse tolerance so if you don't break through on your first try, try again

    i've had some really weird experiences on it but certainly nothing enlightening like shrooms

    it was cool seeing the tiles on my floor sing lateralus for me though in a female voice haha

    I love it when a stoner gets all elitist!
    :)
  • PJPixiePJPixie Posts: 3,026
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I love it when a stoner gets all elitist!
    :)


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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    that stuff made my friends arms turn into legos!
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  • ok...just to let everyone know this is my salvia trip...and the thing that happened to my friend ray has never happened to anyone on salvia before




    Tom picked me up to smoke a blunt. Tom's like I got salvia too, 40x. I was like WHATTTTT IM DEFF DOWN...but we didnt have a bong. So one of my best friends Ray was having people over to play bp and shit in his yard. So I'm about to do it and fuckin Tom loses the bag, but after an hour of finding it we find it.

    I'm fuckin nervous as fuck cuz its 40x, and theres like 15 people around me. So I take a big ass rip, hold it for like 10-15 seconds, and blow it out. All the sudden my eyes became droopy, and my eyes NEVER get droopy. Then I just start laughing for no reason, and I can't stop laughing. I start running in a random direction...Marc catches up to me and hes like take another rip! So i take a small rip and just laugh all the smoke out. I go back to the fire pit where we were playing bp and im just laughing hysterically and I have no idea whats going on...people look like clowns to me, i forgot where I was.

    It seemed like laughter was evil, and I was trying to fight it by not laughing but i couldnt, and it was taking over my life...it felt like i was fuckin fighting a wall of laughter until it collapsed on me

    OK now for the crazy shit

    Im sitting down still trippin and Ray decides to rip it. At this time i stop laughing and this kid Jae looks at me and hes like are u ok? I just broke out into this HUGE sweat, and things were moving that shouldn't be. Then I see ray just standing infront of me and he's not moving...and he just starts coughing and he wont stop coughing...then he like freaks out. Like switches like a retard moving around...then I see his eyes roll behind his head! and i thought it was an alien taking over his body...then he starts foaming at the mouth and snot is coming out of everywhere and hes approaching me, and i think hes a monster...so i fuckin jump and im still trippin and i think hes having a sezure...and im like NO FUCKIN WAY that one of my best friends is going to die...my trip was to save my best friends life...so i run away up to rays house to see if his sister was in the kitchen and i was about to call 9 1 1 but i run back...and all the sudden i just stop and fall for a second and i woke up out of the salvia trip...and all of us are watching ray...he wasnt having a sezure he was just tripping like crazy...and i was still confused as fuck

    im freakin out sitting down and all the sudden i trip again for another 30 seconds and my life went from being 18 and having ray die and what my life would be like w/o him...and then he just stands up and starts laughing and is like "what happened? lol"...we told him and he was like idk what happened i was in another world

    i check my phone and i had it in emergency mode cuz i was on an adventure to save him...i get back in the car, and i feel so wierd, nothing like ive ever felt in my life...i cant describe it...i get home and i cant sleep until 7am, with flashbacks of what happened just coming to me and i was like sweating and shit...then i fell asleep and woke up normal
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,979
    ok...just to let everyone know this is my salvia trip...and the thing that happened to my friend ray has never happened to anyone on salvia before




    Tom picked me up to smoke a blunt. Tom's like I got salvia too, 40x. I was like WHATTTTT IM DEFF DOWN...but we didnt have a bong. So one of my best friends Ray was having people over to play bp and shit in his yard. So I'm about to do it and fuckin Tom loses the bag, but after an hour of finding it we find it.

    I'm fuckin nervous as fuck cuz its 40x, and theres like 15 people around me. So I take a big ass rip, hold it for like 10-15 seconds, and blow it out. All the sudden my eyes became droopy, and my eyes NEVER get droopy. Then I just start laughing for no reason, and I can't stop laughing. I start running in a random direction...Marc catches up to me and hes like take another rip! So i take a small rip and just laugh all the smoke out. I go back to the fire pit where we were playing bp and im just laughing hysterically and I have no idea whats going on...people look like clowns to me, i forgot where I was.

    It seemed like laughter was evil, and I was trying to fight it by not laughing but i couldnt, and it was taking over my life...it felt like i was fuckin fighting a wall of laughter until it collapsed on me

    OK now for the crazy shit

    Im sitting down still trippin and Ray decides to rip it. At this time i stop laughing and this kid Jae looks at me and hes like are u ok? I just broke out into this HUGE sweat, and things were moving that shouldn't be. Then I see ray just standing infront of me and he's not moving...and he just starts coughing and he wont stop coughing...then he like freaks out. Like switches like a retard moving around...then I see his eyes roll behind his head! and i thought it was an alien taking over his body...then he starts foaming at the mouth and snot is coming out of everywhere and hes approaching me, and i think hes a monster...so i fuckin jump and im still trippin and i think hes having a sezure...and im like NO FUCKIN WAY that one of my best friends is going to die...my trip was to save my best friends life...so i run away up to rays house to see if his sister was in the kitchen and i was about to call 9 1 1 but i run back...and all the sudden i just stop and fall for a second and i woke up out of the salvia trip...and all of us are watching ray...he wasnt having a sezure he was just tripping like crazy...and i was still confused as fuck

    im freakin out sitting down and all the sudden i trip again for another 30 seconds and my life went from being 18 and having ray die and what my life would be like w/o him...and then he just stands up and starts laughing and is like "what happened? lol"...we told him and he was like idk what happened i was in another world

    i check my phone and i had it in emergency mode cuz i was on an adventure to save him...i get back in the car, and i feel so wierd, nothing like ive ever felt in my life...i cant describe it...i get home and i cant sleep until 7am, with flashbacks of what happened just coming to me and i was like sweating and shit...then i fell asleep and woke up normal

    I tried 30x a few months back and should of shut the tv off. Colbert Report was on, and I swear his attention was focused on me.Colors started coming out of the TV, and the sound was very sloooow.I tried to stand up off my bed and my legs were weak

    Overall it is something to try if your curious like me. Other than that nothing too great
  • battan1120battan1120 Posts: 310
    Why not just eat blotter.Don't you young kids know any hippies?Last I knew you can get a hit for 5$ or less and trip for most of the day.
    The bus came by and I got on!!!!!
  • Purple PuppyPurple Puppy Posts: 149
    A Buddha gave it to me. In a pipe and it took the soul out of me. Thought I was going to be a zombie forever. I would take San Pedro Cactus instead.
    Signed it, grind it.
    Corroding and foreboding.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    alright, I just purchased online a rather nice metal and wooden pipe plus some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds (containing LSA, which is chemically similar to LSD. these are unrelated items, the Woodrose is ingested orally but I will try to find a nice cheap head shop in london that sells salvia quite cheap.

    incidentally, has anyone ever done Woodrose or LSA? it was really cheap but 90% of users suffer severe nausea... I think I can handle it.

    I tried woodrose, which didn't work for me. I also tried morning glory, which did work (the bag said seeds of the gods, which is I think the "brand" name).

    I would recommend these caps : http://everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Dionysos.cfm?iProductID=2399

    They worked for me everytime and they were freakin' awesome!

    Saw four of my friends smoke salvia last year, the all had an amazing time.

    Oh yeah, the nausea was rather annoying a but it's nothing a joint won't fix ;)
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    I've done this a few times... the first time I did it I thought I was becoming "one with the wall." I literally thought I was being sucked into the wall that the couch was sitting next to, I was sort of leaning against it.

    I thought i was going crazy and that I had permanently fucked myself up!!!

    but yeah, smoke 30x extract, out of a bowl, get it HOT HOT HOT, and smoke as much as you can, two huge hits and HOLD IT IN YOUR LUNGS as long as possible! 10 seconds after you blow out the smoke you won't know what the fuck hit you.

    its like the deepest vestiges of an acid trip, but for 30 to 60 seconds instead of 12 hours.
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  • its like the deepest vestiges of an acid trip, but for 30 to 60 seconds instead of 12 hours.

    mine lasted for 11 minutes...felt like 11 years
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    mine lasted for 11 minutes...felt like 11 years

    no shit? I have a friend that used to do this shit all the time... usually at my place... and it never lasted more than a minute or two!

    The residual can be felt for a while... but the intense part usually fades pretty quickly.

    anywho... its still no 6 hour "fear trip" like the last time I did acid. Looking back it was a very spiritual and positive experience because some demons that I didn't even know I had came out... it really helped me get through some issues. But at the time I was in absolute hell...
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  • no shit? I have a friend that used to do this shit all the time... usually at my place... and it never lasted more than a minute or two!

    The residual can be felt for a while... but the intense part usually fades pretty quickly.

    anywho... its still no 6 hour "fear trip" like the last time I did acid. Looking back it was a very spiritual and positive experience because some demons that I didn't even know I had came out... it really helped me get through some issues. But at the time I was in absolute hell...


    oh yeah the after effects make you feel drunk as fuck even though your not, lol
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    oh yeah the after effects make you feel drunk as fuck even though your not, lol
    Yes.

    Made me feel very clumsy for a while.

    Always feel great the next day though. Seems to sweep away negative vibes.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • HushBullHushBull Posts: 996
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    Yes, many times.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Drugs are bad mmkay?
    Why go home

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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Drugs are bad mmkay?

    lol had to...

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