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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    sounds like it was a much more than fair offer. 1 year guaranteed, $5 million base salary, $1 million bonus for making the playoffs, another $1 million for making the ALCS, and another $1 million bonus for making the WS. By making the WS, Torre is guaranteed another year for $8 million. Very, very fair. Just the base salary is $1.5 million more than any other manager.
  • Champagne Breakfast
    Champagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    The Yanks have are at least on the right track thinking JOE.....its just need to be the other Joe. GIRARDI.

    I don't blame Torre at all. Good for you.

    Oh and if Mattingly is appointed manager I will jump out my 22nd floor window
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    It was fair. To me this is Joe basically telling the Yankees to fuck off after having to read the threats of his boss during a playoff series that he was trying to win.
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I can see that, but why didn't he do it a week ago?
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    sounds like it was a much more than fair offer. 1 year guaranteed, $5 million base salary, $1 million bonus for making the playoffs, another $1 million for making the ALCS, and another $1 million bonus for making the WS. By making the WS, Torre is guaranteed another year for $8 million. Very, very fair. Just the base salary is $1.5 million more than any other manager.

    Well Torre's base last year was 7.5 million with a million dollar bonus for a World Series victory. I'm thinking Torre wasn't too happy about the incentives in this offer and the 33% cut in base salary considering what he's done for the franchise the last decade plus and the fact that the Yanks are full of money.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well Torre's base last year was 7.5 million with a million dollar bonus for a World Series victory. I'm thinking Torre wasn't too happy about the incentives in this offer and the 33% cut in base salary considering what he's done for the franchise the last decade plus and the fact that the Yanks are full of money.


    can't say i fault him for that, especially that he managed the team that is responsible for the most profitable era in the history of the yankees.
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    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
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    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well Torre's base last year was 7.5 million with a million dollar bonus for a World Series victory. I'm thinking Torre wasn't too happy about the incentives in this offer and the 33% cut in base salary considering what he's done for the franchise the last decade plus and the fact that the Yanks are full of money.


    It should also be noted that when the Yankees hired him, he was flat broke. He is now a very, very rich man.
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Champagne Breakfast wrote:
    Oh and if Mattingly is appointed manager I will jump out my 22nd floor window

    what address will this be taking place at ?
    Morbidly enough, i think i might like to see that !
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    It should also be noted that when the Yankees hired him, he was flat broke. He is now a very, very rich man.

    That may be the case - I don't know.

    But to give the man who took your team to the playoffs 12 years straight a pay cut when you're going to have greater revenues in the next three years (with the closing of Yankee Stadium and opening of New Yankee Stadium) is insulting.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    Solat13 wrote:
    That may be the case - I don't know.

    But to give the man who took your team to the playoffs 12 years straight a pay cut when you're going to have greater revenues in the next three years (with the closing of Yankee Stadium and opening of New Yankee Stadium) is insulting.

    and even more insulting is to threaten the manager during a playoff series.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    well, if they made the playoffs again, he would have made $6 million. If they won the first round, he would have made $7 million. Double what any other manager in baseball makes. Is there a manager or coach in any sport that makes $5 mil or more?
  • Champagne Breakfast
    Champagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    It should also be noted that when the Yankees hired him, he was flat broke. He is now a very, very rich man.
    Unless he had some issues I don't know about, how was that possible after spending 35 years in pro baseball?
    PJ - 36
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    anyone listenting to the conference call on wfan? a performance-based model, is this guy levine delusional?
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I'll try to find specific details, but I think it had something to do with a brother in law, from a previous marriage, ripping him off in some real estate scam. It's pretty well known, if not talked about very often
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    anyone listenting to the conference call on wfan? a performance-based model, is this guy levine delusional?


    i am listening intently

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    well, if they made the playoffs again, he would have made $6 million. If they won the first round, he would have made $7 million. Double what any other manager in baseball makes. Is there a manager or coach in any sport that makes $5 mil or more?

    For example, Mike Holmgren, the Seattle Seahawks coach, will earn $8 million this season, Joe Gibbs, Washington Redskins coach gets $5.7 million, and Brian Billick of the Baltimore Ravens will get $5 million.

    * The first part was from an article on forbes.

    Phil Jackson makes $6 million. Larry Brown had a huge contract with the Knicks.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    yeah, I've never been a fan of Levine. I don't think he knows much about baseball. he was brought from the Guiliani administration to help them get a new stadium
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Solat13 wrote:
    For example, Mike Holmgren, the Seattle Seahawks coach, will earn $8 million this season, Joe Gibbs, Washington Redskins coach gets $5.7 million, and Brian Billick of the Baltimore Ravens will get $5 million.

    * The first part was from an article on forbes.

    Phil Jackson makes $6 million. Larry Brown had a huge contract with the Knicks.

    Wow $8 mil for Holmgrem? That is amazing. I know he's a good coach, but wow. and I forgot about the larry Brown fiasco
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Wow $8 mil for Holmgrem? That is amazing. I know he's a good coach, but wow. and I forgot about the larry Brown fiasco

    I can't find Brown's salary from a few years ago, but the Celtics are paying Doc Rivers $5 million, Utah is paying Jerry Sloan $5.5 million and the Kings were paying Rick Adelman $7 million before they fired him.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,431
    Solat13 wrote:
    I can't find Brown's salary from a few years ago, but the Celtics are paying Doc Rivers $5 million, Utah is paying Jerry Sloan $5.5 million and the Kings were paying Rick Adelman $7 million before they fired him.


    the knicks bought out larry brown for 18.5. they fired him with four years and 40 million left on the deal and it took over a year for the settlement to happen.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."

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