Abortion

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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    My ex-gf had one about 12 years ago, but i wish i had a say in the matter, but of course i didn't :(and i still wonder what it would be like to have a child.
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    know1 wrote:
    Wonder why many people support abortions so adamantly, but are usually ashamed to talk about them if they had one.

    It's not about shame.

    In a world where people get shot for simply working at clinics that provide abortions, why do you think women would be comfortable sharing their stories with virtual strangers?

    Aside from that, it's just a very personal experience.
  • Indian Summer
    Indian Summer Posts: 2,296
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    Never had one, but I would have one if I became pregnant!
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    me too. the way I see it, I don't want to be pregnant, it's as simple as that.
    Whizbang wrote:
    neither do I.
    I'm quite happy being an auntie and have never once had the maternal urge.

    So why don't you three just get your tubes tied or something?
    "It's all happening"
  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    Indian Summer wrote:
    So why don't you three just get your tubes tied or something?
    It would save the guy some pain, if say he wanted a child.
    London 2005
    Toronto 2011 night 2
    Hamilton 2011
    London 2013
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Indian Summer wrote:
    So why don't you three just get your tubes tied or something?

    Ever had to ask a doctor to tie your tubes if you're under the age of 40?

    You should try it and see the bullshit dance.
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ever had to ask a doctor to tie your tubes if you're under the age of 40?

    You should try it and see the bullshit dance.

    So true. Unless you already have like 3 or 4 kids, or a health situation that makes pregnancy unsafe, it's almost impossible to find someone to tie your tubes if you're under 40.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    So true. Unless you already have like 3 or 4 kids, or a health situation that makes pregnancy unsafe, it's almost impossible to find someone to tie your tubes if you're under 40.

    Exactly. I've known women to BEG for years and be put off time and again.
    It's pathetic.
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    kenshunt wrote:
    It would save the guy some pain, if say he wanted a child.

    If he wants a child, then he should enter a relationship with a woman who wants a child with him.

    I'm sorry about your experience, but I doubt that you were the only one who experienced pain.
  • Indian Summer
    Indian Summer Posts: 2,296
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ever had to ask a doctor to tie your tubes if you're under the age of 40?

    You should try it and see the bullshit dance.

    what about and IUD?
    "It's all happening"
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Indian Summer wrote:
    what about and IUD?

    Again, it's very difficult to find a doctor willing to give you an IUD if you haven't already had a kid.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Indian Summer wrote:
    what about and IUD?


    Just had one of those removed because it was making my hair fall out. A common side effect apparently, not to mention a whole plethora of other side effects and problems that women can have with them. You like em so much, you get one.

    Face it, no birth control comes without problems. Well the only one I know of that has relatively low side effects is condoms and I don't see too many blokes jumping at the chance to use them and take responsibility for their products of conception do you?
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    If he wants a child, then he should enter a relationship with a woman who wants a child with him.

    I'm sorry about your experience, but I doubt that you were the only one who experienced pain.
    True, True, but she listened to her parents, but yeah i understand, if i want children i should find a female who also wants children.
    London 2005
    Toronto 2011 night 2
    Hamilton 2011
    London 2013
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Jeanie wrote:
    Just had one of those removed because it was making my hair fall out. A common side effect apparently, not to mention a whole plethora of other side effects and problems that women can have with them. You like em so much, you get one.

    Face it, no birth control comes without problems. Well the only one I know of that has relatively low side effects is condoms and I don't see too many blokes jumping at the chance to use them and take responsibility for their products of conception do you?

    Jeanie, that's horrible. What type of IUD did you have? Was it a progesterone one, or a copper one? (If you don't mind me asking, of course! I am considering getting one.)

    I know a woman whose IUD perforated her uterus and made it's way into her abdominal cavity. She got really sick, and then they figured out that was what happened. She had to have surgery to have it removed and they aren't sure if it'll impact her ability to become pregnant or carry to term. That's a pretty rare occurrence, but it does happen and it's kind of scary.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Jeanie, that's horrible. What type of IUD did you have? Was it a progesterone one, or a copper one? (If you don't mind me asking, of course! I am considering getting one.)

    I know a woman whose IUD perforated her uterus and made it's way into her abdominal cavity. She got really sick, and then they figured out that was what happened. She had to have surgery to have it removed and they aren't sure if it'll impact her ability to become pregnant or carry to term. That's a pretty rare occurrence, but it does happen and it's kind of scary.

    Yes I was fairly unimpressed by it.
    It was one of these, progesterone ones, and still no or little mention of hair loss as a side effect in the product information. BUT when I noticed that my hair was falling out I started searching around the internet on message boards and a lot of women were complaining of the same, so armed with that knowledge I went off to my doctor who rang a pharmacology specialist friend of hers who confirmed that it was most likely the IUD causing the problem. I had it removed that week. Hair is no longer falling out, I've lost 10 kilos with NO EFFORT since it went and no longer have painful periods and endless bloating.

    http://www.fpq.com.au/factsheets_brochures/Fs_Mirena.pdf

    Look it's not the worst thing I've ever had, and it may not have that effect on everyone but it's worth knowing about it before you give it a try. Some women have NO problems at all with IUDs others have endless problems.

    I had the IUD for gynae problems not as a birth control and I'm not a suitable candidate for the birth control pill or depo provera shots OR implanon (that thing they implant under the skin) so my doctor suggested that if I was looking for birth control in the future I try this new thing called a nuvo ring

    http://www.epigee.org/guide/ring.html

    Maybe that would be more useful to you J? :)
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Jeanie wrote:
    Yes I was fairly unimpressed by it.
    It was one of these, progesterone ones, and still no or little mention of hair loss as a side effect in the product information. BUT when I noticed that my hair was falling out I started searching around the internet on message boards and a lot of women were complaining of the same, so armed with that knowledge I went off to my doctor who rang a pharmacology specialist friend of hers who confirmed that it was most likely the IUD causing the problem. I had it removed that week. Hair is no longer falling out, I've lost 10 kilos with NO EFFORT since it went and no longer have painful periods and endless bloating.

    http://www.fpq.com.au/factsheets_brochures/Fs_Mirena.pdf

    Look it's not the worst thing I've ever had, and it may not have that effect on everyone but it's worth knowing about it before you give it a try. Some women have NO problems at all with IUDs others have endless problems.

    I had the IUD for gynae problems not as a birth control and I'm not a suitable candidate for the birth control pill or depo provera shots OR implanon (that thing they implant under the skin) so my doctor suggested that if I was looking for birth control in the future I try this new thing called a nuvo ring

    http://www.epigee.org/guide/ring.html

    Maybe that would be more useful to you J? :)

    For whatever reason, the IUD is not as popular yet in the US as it is in Europe. I only know a few people that have had them. I've heard of a couple of people that hated them and then a few that loved them. I'm really not sure what I'm going to do...but I can't do the pill and I don't want to do the shot because of the weight gain associated.

    It's very complicated. Sometimes I'd like to just have my husband get a vasectomy and adopt kid #2, just to be able to relax about birth control!

    I will look into the nuvo ring. I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    For whatever reason, the IUD is not as popular yet in the US as it is in Europe. I only know a few people that have had them. I've heard of a couple of people that hated them and then a few that loved them. I'm really not sure what I'm going to do...but I can't do the pill and I don't want to do the shot because of the weight gain associated.

    It's very complicated. Sometimes I'd like to just have my husband get a vasectomy and adopt kid #2, just to be able to relax about birth control!

    I will look into the nuvo ring. I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.

    Yeah, it's fairly popular here, although the depo and implanon seem more so. The IUD is generally only recommended for older women, or women that have had kids, which tells you something in itself I think.
    Look it may be that it's highly advantageous for you. It's so hard to know because everyone is so different. But it is a very complicated business. One I find rather tiresome. The vasectomy sounds like an EXCELLENT idea! :D

    I haven't used the nuvo ring but it does look harmless enough and I've not heard bad things about it as yet. So not sure. Can't say that I've tried it but my doctor did give me one which I have poked at suspiciously and wondered about! ;) What about a diaphragm? A lot of mucking about but still?
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Jeanie wrote:
    Yeah, it's fairly popular here, although the depo and implanon seem more so. The IUD is generally only recommended for older women, or women that have had kids, which tells you something in itself I think.
    Look it may be that it's highly advantageous for you. It's so hard to know because everyone is so different. But it is a very complicated business. One I find rather tiresome. The vasectomy sounds like an EXCELLENT idea! :D

    I haven't used the nuvo ring but it does look harmless enough and I've not heard bad things about it as yet. So not sure. Can't say that I've tried it but my doctor did give me one which I have poked at suspiciously and wondered about! ;) What about a diaphragm? A lot of mucking about but still?


    In the US, they generally start pushing the IUD after you've already had a kid. They claim their reason for doing this is that they don't want you to rely solely on it for protection, since it doesn't protect against STD's. (And, the idea is that a woman who just had a kid is in a committed relationship...) But, obviously the pill doesn't protect against STD's, either, and that's marketed to everyone. So you may be onto something there.

    I'm gonna grill my doctor about the hair loss thing, for sure!

    I've thought about the diaphragm, but...eww. lol :D I don't think I'd want to mess with it!
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    In the US, they generally start pushing the IUD after you've already had a kid. They claim their reason for doing this is that they don't want you to rely solely on it for protection, since it doesn't protect against STD's. (And, the idea is that a woman who just had a kid is in a committed relationship...) But, obviously the pill doesn't protect against STD's, either, and that's marketed to everyone. So you may be onto something there.

    I'm gonna grill my doctor about the hair loss thing, for sure!

    I've thought about the diaphragm, but...eww. lol :D I don't think I'd want to mess with it!

    The only thing that protects against STD's is condoms and even they won't fully protect you against things like a genital wart in the wrong spot and if they break well it's game over anyway. There are definitely different contraceptives marketed at different age groups.

    With regard to the hair loss, my hair was falling out all over so it wasn't patchy, just got very thin and lifeless. Since it's been removed my hair has grown back, something I was really worried about but it's looking much healthier and it's much thicker again, thankfully. I guess you can only ask your doctor. A lot of them STILL don't advise that it's an issue because it's not in the product info or the doctor info as far as I'm aware. I guess it's pre statistics time. If you're not considering getting that particular one it might be a non issue for you.

    Yeah, the good old diaphragm really does have an eeeew factor don't it? :D
    NOPE!!!

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  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    IUD should be changed to PITPP (pokes in the peepee!) OUCH!!!! That thing hurts sometimes!
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Steve Dunne wrote:
    IUD should be changed to PITPP (pokes in the peepee!) OUCH!!!! That thing hurts sometimes!

    Oh no!!!

    I've heard about that. Does your wife know that she can get the strings clipped? That should help!!

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