2007 Yankees

Allie wrote:

yeah but he looked better than Wang

there's something about that playoff experience, that veteran experience that doesn't show up on paper. ..

it probably didn't matter either way. everything was going right for cleveland. they got most of the calls. their balls were hit at the right spots. they hit a good pitch and got lucky. these games are all about luck. we got them in the 90's. also they were watching video of their last at bats. So maybe that helped also.

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

I'd be shocked if they don't pick up Abreu's option. I think they'll see if they can get something back for Damon, though they'll obviously have to eat some of his contract, which has 2 years and $26 million left. I'd like to see them go after Rowand, and split LF between Matsui and Melky. I'd also like to see Duncan get a real good look in the OF in spring training.

Im thinking since Giambis prolly done with us. Matsui wil DH more and if we dont wind up getting a free agent outfielder then try Duncan out there. It cant hurt and the kids got power. I juts hope he doesnt turn iinto Kevin Maas, or Shane Spencer

Allie wrote:

it's partially luck but it's also starting pitching and their pitching was just downright better than ours, except for Andy but his didn't factor into the decision


and their hitting was better. They kept showing that stat about 2 out hits, it was crazy. We had runners on base, the bases loaded, and nothing to show for it

which is why the pitching lineup should've been hughes , pettitte and wang then clemens. but nothing you can do now.

igotid88 wrote:

Wang gave up 4 and Mussina gave up 2. And Mussina was pitching when 2 ( i think) of Wang's runners came in to score. But they were charged to Wang cuz they were his responsibilty.

that's what I was saying

I mean yeah Moose gave up the runs but he was coming in the middle of an inning to clean up that mess

igotid88 wrote:

yea but it's still luck. A-rod had fouled a few pitches straight back if he were in an indians uniform they would've been homeruns or doubles off the wall. for instance.

I disagree

good pitching beats good hitting as the Indians proved.

Their pitching was simply better and as such our hitting faltered

and then there was the thing with the bugs. It was a bad omen for the whole series. It wasn't supposed to be our year.

Allie wrote:

the runs he gave up were charged to Wang though, weren't they?

I think moose should've started the game, actually. Wang may have had the better record but Moose has the post season experience to go on. Wang could've backed him up out of the pen.

Blech.

I told u about that..my feeling was go with Mussina...hes got more experience and if he gets in trouble u get Wang ready.
Joe being the guy that he is I think wanted to give Wang a chance to redeem himself and it was amazing what he told him afterwards. DOnt let it affect you or your career. The yankees are gonna miss that
Hopefully if we DO get Girardi the transition will be easier cause he's cut from the same cloth, AND he's cool with the remainding staff, like Mo and Jorge, Jeet.

Allie wrote:

that's what I was saying

I mean yeah Moose gave up the runs but he was coming in the middle of an inning to clean up that mess

i know but Mussina gave up 2 extra later on.

stickboy wrote:

I told u about that..my feeling was go with Mussina...hes got more experience and if he gets in trouble u get Wang ready.
Joe being the guy that he is I think wanted to give Wang a chance to redeem himself and it was amazing what he told him afterwards. DOnt let it affect you or your career. The yankees are gonna miss that
Hopefully if we DO get Girardi the transition will be easier cause he's cut from the same cloth, AND he's cool with the remainding staff, like Mo and Jorge, Jeet.

I had that same feeling about Moose from the get go but I can also see how Joe would go with his same starting rotation from the year...Wang was the #1 starter and 19 game winner, he just didn't have it tonight.

I didn't hear that he said that to Wang. That is really cool.

I hope Joe doesn't have to go out like that.
Girardi is a good guy but he's no Joe Torre. He will be after a while, but not in the beginning. They said in the papers and on TV that Girardi has the edge b/c he had managerial experience.
But I wonder how Mo and DJ and them will feel playing for a guy they used to play WITH, you know?

I hope that wasn't Joe's last game but it does seem kind of bleak for him at this point. That's sad.

igotid88 wrote:

i know but Mussina gave up 2 extra later on.

oh right
well he did the best he could

Allie wrote:

I had that same feeling about Moose from the get go but I can also see how Joe would go with his same starting rotation from the year...Wang was the #1 starter and 19 game winner, he just didn't have it tonight.

I didn't hear that he said that to Wang. That is really cool.

I hope Joe doesn't have to go out like that.
Girardi is a good guy but he's no Joe Torre. He will be after a while, but not in the beginning. They said in the papers and on TV that Girardi has the edge b/c he had managerial experience.
But I wonder how Mo and DJ and them will feel playing for a guy they used to play WITH, you know?

I hope that wasn't Joe's last game but it does seem kind of bleak for him at this point. That's sad.

yea during the press conference they asked Joe what he was telling Wang, and he had like a real heart to heart with him.

word tho...let joe decide his fate...george should just let it go for a bit and decompress for now like joe said

I think the guys wil be ok with playing for someone they played with. They are pro's and its a business..they'll be there someday too just like Guidry and Mattingly...keepin it in the family. Those guys got a lot of love for Girardi and I think they'll have an input on wether he gets hired or not or even reccomended for that matter