FOX --Report: Israel Preparing to Strike Iran Without U.S. Consent

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  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    my2hands wrote:
    why is a canadian so obsessed with the US Federal Reserve?

    i mean seriosuly bro, dont you have local issues you could be helping out with in your area?

    not to mention, this happens to be the wealthiest and most prosperous country on the planet right now, and has been for almost a century now, so alot fo your bitching and moaning about the fed and the monetary system looks pretty silly if you ask me

    find a real cause, you could really be beneficial


    Oh, yeah?

    I could've sworn our country was going through some economic troubles....

    I never understood this concept of we're weal
    thy while we have trillions in debt....i'm rich but I owe a couple thousand to my credit cards, behind on my car and house payment and owe all my friends lots of money....other than that im filthy rich!!
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Saturnal wrote:
    Under Hitler, Germany was extremely prosperous...more than they ever had been. The economic growth was actually amazing if you go back and take a look. Should we use that as an argument in favor of fascism?

    Just because something produces or maintains "prosperity" doesn't make it right.
    and I think when you look at the standard version of "prosperity" it rarely counts things like wealth gap, well being of the poor, education, number of hospitals, things like that.

    Iraq is entering a stage of prosperity right now too.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Saturnal wrote:
    Under Hitler, Germany was extremely prosperous...more than they ever had been. The economic growth was actually amazing if you go back and take a look. Should we use that as an argument in favor of fascism?

    Just because something produces or maintains "prosperity" doesn't make it right.

    Well said....
    --

    I would just like to add that their is nothing special about America, it is not some 'blessed' country. The only reason it is where it is...simply is because it bullied,killed and destroyed whatever stood in it's way.

    It's rich? it's wealthy My2Hands? Sure, how did it get that way? The great will of the American people? No! America raped and stole from other countries.

    If America was under occupation, or had sanctions on it. Where would it be?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Saturnal wrote:
    Under Hitler, Germany was extremely prosperous...more than they ever had been. The economic growth was actually amazing if you go back and take a look. Should we use that as an argument in favor of fascism?

    Just because something produces or maintains "prosperity" doesn't make it right.

    Not to mention, MOST of the wealth the Fed has created is concentrated in the hands of the top 1-5% of this country's population.

    Inflation has managed to DESTROY the wealth of the average American, and has made the saver in to a real LOSER.

    The Fed has overseen multiple severe stock market crashes, recessions, rate spirals, and bubble bursts ... has utterly failed to maintain either price stability or full employment (its so called "dual mandates") in the dark times where it's self-created crisis' have put their charge to the test.

    In short.
    It is beyond worthless to the average american.
    It does not work at doing the things it was allegdly created to do,
    and it performs disturbingly well as a wealth funnel, redistrubting real wealth from the hands of the taxpayer in to the hands of the elite group of international bankers sitting at the top of the pyramid.

    ALL of this is coming home to roost now,
    and we still have people arguing that the Fed is somehow related to some great period of prosperity in America?
    WAKE UP, for fucks sake.

    Is this like the mother and father,
    where "hes your son when he fucks up, and he is my son when he does good"
    ?

    The Fed is RESPONSIBLE for most of the economic ills we have faced in the last 100 years, it is NOT the great provider of wealth and happiness to all!
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Not to mention, MOST of the wealth the Fed has created is concentrated in the hands of the top 1-5% of this country's population.

    Inflation has managed to DESTROY the wealth of the average American, and has made the saver in to a real LOSER.

    The Fed has overseen multiple severe stock market crashes, recessions, rate spirals, and bubble bursts ... has utterly failed to maintain either price stability or full employment (its so called "dual mandates") in the dark times where it's self-created crisis' have put their charge to the test.

    In short.
    It is beyond worthless to the average american.
    It does not work at doing the things it was allegdly created to do,
    and it performs disturbingly well as a wealth funnel, redistrubting real wealth from the hands of the taxpayer in to the hands of the elite group of international bankers sitting at the top of the pyramid.

    ALL of this is coming home to roost now,
    and we still have people arguing that the Fed is somehow related to some great period of prosperity in America?
    WAKE UP, for fucks sake.

    Is this like the mother and father,
    where "hes your son when he fucks up, and he is my son when he does good"
    ?

    The Fed is RESPONSIBLE for most of the economic ills we have faced in the last 100 years, it is NOT the great provider of wealth and happiness to all!


    the average income has also gotten smaller compared to where it was in the '70's
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    How wealthy is everyone feeling now?

    http://130.94.230.21/debtclock.html

    In 2003, it was just over 100,000 per household.

    That's some sweet usury right there.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How wealthy is everyone feeling now?

    http://130.94.230.21/debtclock.html

    In 2003, it was just over 100,000 per household.

    That's some sweet usury right there.

    That clock is actually A TRILLION OFF.
    Better Debt Clock
    Updated YESTERDAY with OFFICIAL Treasury statistics.

    10.5 TRILLION and counting in current debts.

    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Mutiny! he cried
    Mutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    Commy wrote:
    Israel needs US support. Publicly they may say they are going solo, but if you put billions into Israel's military every year you have some more than a little say when it comes to who they can or can't invade.

    If they do bomb Iran it will be with US consent.


    very, very good point

    it's illegal for the US to sell Israel weapons the way they use them in their invasions and occupations....all those cluster bombs they dropped, especially. If Israel bombs Iran it's w/ US supplied weapons.

    they're a spoiled trust fund brat
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Not to mention, MOST of the wealth the Fed has created is concentrated in the hands of the top 1-5% of this country's population.

    Inflation has managed to DESTROY the wealth of the average American, and has made the saver in to a real LOSER.

    The Fed has overseen multiple severe stock market crashes, recessions, rate spirals, and bubble bursts ... has utterly failed to maintain either price stability or full employment (its so called "dual mandates") in the dark times where it's self-created crisis' have put their charge to the test.

    In short.
    It is beyond worthless to the average american.
    It does not work at doing the things it was allegdly created to do,
    and it performs disturbingly well as a wealth funnel, redistrubting real wealth from the hands of the taxpayer in to the hands of the elite group of international bankers sitting at the top of the pyramid.

    ALL of this is coming home to roost now,
    and we still have people arguing that the Fed is somehow related to some great period of prosperity in America?
    WAKE UP, for fucks sake.

    Is this like the mother and father,
    where "hes your son when he fucks up, and he is my son when he does good"
    ?

    The Fed is RESPONSIBLE for most of the economic ills we have faced in the last 100 years, it is NOT the great provider of wealth and happiness to all!

    Just an honest question, your parent/child image made me think about :
    Since the fed started wasn't there a moment were average wealth went up in the us(like directly after ww2?) before it started going down?

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