Bin Laden urges Americans to convert to Islam

Bu2 · September 2007

bomb his ass. Can't we find him now via satellite? Let's fly over his hideout and bomb him once, bomb him twice, and then tell all the world that terrorism is over...and that middle eastern men can now let their beards grow without having to worry.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

let me get this straight... israel blows up muslims to make it seem like muslims are blowing up muslims so that americans/israelis can tell themselves muslims blow up muslims to justify blowing up more muslims and thus provoking muslims into blowing up americans and israelis?

yeah, that seems a much more likely story.

Have you looked into it at all? or are you just talking blindly?

catefrances · September 2007

well osama's won me over. i'm converting. oh oops... hang on a minute...i'm not american...

Gary Carter · September 2007

puremagic wrote:

If they know binny speaks on video tape just before 9/11 EVERY YEAR why not monitor the communications in that area. Hell its not like EVERYONE has electricity. Maybe if they thought of it as wiretapping instead of video tapping we could catch him.

its called brainwashing. bush and his buddies always somwhow get a tape of osama 3 weeks before 9-11 then bush gives us one of these this is why where in iraq or this is why theres a war on terror type of speeches and the american slurp it up every year. its really sick what bush and his buddies get away with

catefrances wrote:

well osama's won me over. i'm converting. oh oops... hang on a minute...i'm not american...

i cant convert, my bread wont grow in fast enough

g under p · September 2007

metsfan531941 wrote:

its called brainwashing. bush and his buddies always somwhow get a tape of osama 3 weeks before 9-11 then bush gives us one of these this is why where in iraq or this is why theres a war on terror type of speeches and the american slurp it up every year. its really sick what bush and his buddies get away with

i cant convert, my bread wont grow in fast enough

Yeah they really do seem to come out around this time of year. I also noticed our US intelligence had to look over this video before it's release. I wonder how close they really looked?

Peace

RolandTD20Kdrummer · September 2007

g under p wrote:

Yeah they really do seem to come out around this time of year. I also noticed our US intelligence had to look over this video before it's release. I wonder how close they really looked?

Peace

I wonder why they didn't look it over first before the media pimped it out? Oh wait they "did"

as you said...what a joke...

beachdweller · September 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Are there there stats on this? I'd be curious to see this reported past reactionary face value in the media.

Do you ever wonder about false flag operations going on over there at all?

When a bomb goes off somewhere over there in a public place how do they know it was a terrorist? There is no evidence. They (the media) just assume it was a suicide bomber.

Ever ask yourself that?

doesn't matter whether it's a suicide bomber or not, just whether another Muslim was behind it or now, which in Iraq is the likely case when a bomb erupts. Shiite vs Sunni, Sunni vs Sunni, Shiite vs Shiite, tribe vs tribe, throw in Al Qaeda members, and other forces (including the U S), does anyone think this is like Vietnam? the Japanese or German occupations after WWII? that Bush is completely incompetent and unable to understand what he's done? He's saying wait 50 yrs I'll be a genius...under his rule our species would be extinct in 50 yrs...WTF is up with the constant change in reasoning for the war, the constant misrepresentation of the situation, and now the changing of what is and what isn't a reportable violence...here we go again, and most of American will take up the wahzoo as they have the past 5 yrs without complaint...they may not like it, but they want take any action...sorry just a rant by now huh?

Bu2 · September 2007

beachdweller wrote:

doesn't matter whether it's a suicide bomber or not, just whether another Muslim was behind it or now, which in Iraq is the likely case when a bomb erupts. Shiite vs Sunni, Sunni vs Sunni, Shiite vs Shiite, tribe vs tribe, throw in Al Qaeda members, and other forces (including the U S), does anyone think this is like Vietnam? the Japanese or German occupations after WWII? that Bush is completely incompetent and unable to understand what he's done? He's saying wait 50 yrs I'll be a genius...under his rule our species would be extinct in 50 yrs...WTF is up with the constant change in reasoning for the war, the constant misrepresentation of the situation, and now the changing of what is and what isn't a reportable violence...here we go again, and most of American will take up the wahzoo as they have the past 5 yrs without complaint...they may not like it, but they want take any action...sorry just a rant by now huh?

It's the way we all feel. Well, most of us, anyway. And it's our job to rant and rave beyond this message board, and keep ranting and raving until we turn blue.

LukinFan · September 2007

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I thought that was what Castro said.

that's what she said

RolandTD20Kdrummer · September 2007

beachdweller wrote:

doesn't matter whether it's a suicide bomber or not, just whether another Muslim was behind it or now, which in Iraq is the likely case when a bomb erupts. Shiite vs Sunni, Sunni vs Sunni, Shiite vs Shiite, tribe vs tribe, throw in Al Qaeda members, and other forces (including the U S), does anyone think this is like Vietnam? the Japanese or German occupations after WWII? that Bush is completely incompetent and unable to understand what he's done? He's saying wait 50 yrs I'll be a genius...under his rule our species would be extinct in 50 yrs...WTF is up with the constant change in reasoning for the war, the constant misrepresentation of the situation, and now the changing of what is and what isn't a reportable violence...here we go again, and most of American will take up the wahzoo as they have the past 5 yrs without complaint...they may not like it, but they want take any action...sorry just a rant by now huh?

That's about the size of it. Arabs are the new bad guys. They don't deserve the right to have internal conflicts or raise their voices in protest even. They are all nothing but "trouble" and to be dealt with swiftly now.

The public is being played. It's happened before, it's happening now. It will happen again unless people wise up.

soulsinging · September 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Have you looked into it at all? or are you just talking blindly?

it's one thing to think the us has no business in iraq (we dont). it's one thing to think we have made a mess of things there (we have). it's one thing to think our motives in iraq and the middle east in general are suspect (they are). it's one thing to say israel has not exactly been saintly in its actions towards its palestinian and arab nrighbors (it hasnt). it's one thing to say israel has given as good as it's gotten over there (it has).

but it's something totally different to act like there is no fundamentalist muslim fringe that is responsible for its own fair share of senseless violence over there. there is. there are plenty of islamic terrorist groups willing to kill to achieve their goals just as readily as the us and israel are. they are not pure innocent victims. they're over there mixing it up as bad as anyone else. there are no right or innocent parties here. just a lot of fucked up and selfish groups using violence to achieve their ends... be it zionism, capitalist imperialism, or religious fascism.

Flagg · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

it's one thing to think the us has no business in iraq (we dont). it's one thing to think we have made a mess of things there (we have). it's one thing to think our motives in iraq and the middle east in general are suspect (they are). it's one thing to say israel has not exactly been saintly in its actions towards its palestinian and arab nrighbors (it hasnt). it's one thing to say israel has given as good as it's gotten over there (it has).

but it's something totally different to act like there is no fundamentalist muslim fringe that is responsible for its own fair share of senseless violence over there. there is. there are plenty of islamic terrorist groups willing to kill to achieve their goals just as readily as the us and israel are. they are not pure innocent victims. they're over there mixing it up as bad as anyone else. there are no right or innocent parties here. just a lot of fucked up and selfish groups using violence to achieve their ends... be it zionism, capitalist imperialism, or religious fascism.

Thank you.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

it's one thing to think the us has no business in iraq (we dont). it's one thing to think we have made a mess of things there (we have). it's one thing to think our motives in iraq and the middle east in general are suspect (they are). it's one thing to say israel has not exactly been saintly in its actions towards its palestinian and arab nrighbors (it hasnt). it's one thing to say israel has given as good as it's gotten over there (it has).

but it's something totally different to act like there is no fundamentalist muslim fringe that is responsible for its own fair share of senseless violence over there. there is. there are plenty of islamic terrorist groups willing to kill to achieve their goals just as readily as the us and israel are. they are not pure innocent victims. they're over there mixing it up as bad as anyone else. there are no right or innocent parties here. just a lot of fucked up and selfish groups using violence to achieve their ends... be it zionism, capitalist imperialism, or religious fascism.

Of course there are. There are also staged operations going on as well to perpetuate and progress the hatred in a very calculated manner. Do you think these people (Islamists) just woke up one day and decided to hate America without cause?

You don't ever see anything on TV portraying these people as human beings or as patriots fighting for their country's sovereignty do you?

Ever wonder why?

Would you like to tell me why?

soulsinging · September 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Of course there are. There are also staged operations going on as well to perpetuate and progress the hatred in a very calculated manner. Do you think these people (Islamists) just woke up one day and decided to hate America without cause?

You don't ever see anything on TV portraying these people as human beings or as patriots fighting for their country's sovereignty do you?

Ever wonder why?

Would you like to tell me why?

no, i don't wonder why... but please enlighten me oh brilliant one. im just a poor ignorant brain washed american needing your wisdom imparted upon me. anyway, as long as it doesnt involve watching some 45 minute youtube jackoff in his basement ranting between monkey spanking sessions, ill listen. but i doubt it's going to make an impact on me.

would you like me to tell you why?

becos apparently we're watching different tv channels. i have never gotten the impression american media is as insidious as you make it out to be. i've seen all sorts of portrayals of all sides. i think you're oversimplifying things just a bit in your "all america does is evil and wrong and no americans see muslims as anything other than terrorists." sure, there's a large ignorant contingent that are that way. but they were born raised and bred that way. i dont think people that stupid even watch the news, or if they do it's only fox radio news. it's not like there's some concerted effort to villify all of islam. at least not that i've ever perceived.

AdmiralPepper · September 2007

RolandTD20K, Do you mind telling the rest of us where you get all of your information? I mean, are you currently undercover in the middle east seeing all of this stuff going down? Or have in your posession documents that you personally have stolen off of a desk at CIA headquarters? Or is all of your conspiracy talk just speculation? I don't doubt that we aren't always getting the complete unfiltered truth, but I also don't think everything we are being told is a lie. Yes, the powers that be can be dishonest, and I usually feel that Bush is a douche, but they aren't as evil and sinister as people sometimes make them out to be. Like the people who claim that the Bush Administration set up 9-11, that's a dispicable thing to say. I was always curious about one thing, and I'm sure others have too. With all of these conspiracy theorists claiming all of these awful things our governments has supposedly done, and saying that they basically lie without end. Why didn't they just plant some WMD's to legitimize the war?

g under p · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

no, i don't wonder why... but please enlighten me oh brilliant one. im just a poor ignorant brain washed american needing your wisdom imparted upon me. anyway, as long as it doesnt involve watching some 45 minute youtube jackoff in his basement ranting between monkey spanking sessions, ill listen. but i doubt it's going to make an impact on me.

would you like me to tell you why?

becos apparently we're watching different tv channels. i have never gotten the impression american media is as insidious as you make it out to be. i've seen all sorts of portrayals of all sides. i think you're oversimplifying things just a bit in your "all america does is evil and wrong and no americans see muslims as anything other than terrorists." sure, there's a large ignorant contingent that are that way. but they were born raised and bred that way. i dont think people that stupid even watch the news, or if they do it's only fox radio news. it's not like there's some concerted effort to villify all of islam. at least not that i've ever perceived.

Only Fox News my ass, the whole American media whether it's print or the boob tube tries to vilify middle Easterners. You must be running your race with blinders cause that's exactly what's happening, no different that what happened to Japanese Americans prior to WWII.

When we hate, we hate and the media makes that happen very well.

Peace

RolandTD20Kdrummer · September 2007

soulsinging wrote:

no, i don't wonder why... but please enlighten me oh brilliant one. im just a poor ignorant brain washed american needing your wisdom imparted upon me. anyway, as long as it doesnt involve watching some 45 minute youtube jackoff in his basement ranting between monkey spanking sessions, ill listen. but i doubt it's going to make an impact on me.

would you like me to tell you why?

becos apparently we're watching different tv channels. i have never gotten the impression american media is as insidious as you make it out to be. i've seen all sorts of portrayals of all sides. i think you're oversimplifying things just a bit in your "all america does is evil and wrong and no americans see muslims as anything other than terrorists." sure, there's a large ignorant contingent that are that way. but they were born raised and bred that way. i dont think people that stupid even watch the news, or if they do it's only fox radio news. it's not like there's some concerted effort to villify all of islam. at least not that i've ever perceived.

Are you familiar with Zionism? Do you know what they believe in? Have you read about PNAC and who the authors are? Are you familiar with Mossad and AIPAC and what they believe in and stand for?

You won't see or hear about this on the news. You will however glean it from independent lesser known documentaries and behind the scenes reporters that rarely get their observations published or picked up by any mainstream news sources.

You are missing the obvious though. America (and Israel) have been occupying foreign territory aggressively for years now and firing ammunition into those societies and killing a lot of innocent people. then ask yourself who is really defending/retaliating, and who is occupying?

Certain things you can refuse to agree on others you cannot refute. If you believe it is all about terrorism, then you need to take a harder look.

As goes the saying "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter".

really think about that statement for a few minutes.

OutOfBreath · September 2007

jlew24asu wrote:

what do you think? probably a good idea. I'm in

CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end.

The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington-based group that monitors terror messages. American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy earlier and intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it was authentic.

In the video, which was broadcast to the Arab world by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden sits as he talks, wearing a white robe and turban and beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an address to the American people from papers in front of him.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070907/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_video

What next? Pat Robertson telling us unbelievers to convert to christianity? :rolleyes:

Peace
Dan

LikeAnOcean · September 2007

Americans are generally Christian.. thats almost Islam. What does that fucker want!

Collin · September 2007

That's so kind of him.

Bin Laden urges Americans to convert to Islam

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