Bush lifts ban on offshore drilling

Drop The Leash 10
Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
dont post here much but i thought this deserved recognition

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/14/bush.offshore/index.html
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  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    haha you beat me to it!

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    is this a good or bad thing? i can't tell.
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  • haha you beat me to it!

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    is this a good or bad thing? i can't tell.
    good. gas prices SHOULD drop.
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    wildlife??????????
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,067
    good. gas prices SHOULD drop.
    so we waste money looking for oil and paying corrupt oil companies to take care of it, instead of looking for alternative fuel sources?

    I guess that makes sense in a total nonsensical way. :p
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    its like trying to fix a decapitation by using a band-aid.
  • _outlaw wrote:
    so we waste money looking for oil and paying corrupt oil companies to take care of it, instead of looking for alternative fuel sources?

    I guess that makes sense in a total nonsensical way. :p
    who says we cant do both???
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    its like trying to fix a decapitation by using a band-aid.

    that's my opinon too.
    in the long run, it's not going to do a bit of good.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    _outlaw wrote:
    so we waste money looking for oil and paying corrupt oil companies to take care of it, instead of looking for alternative fuel sources?

    I guess that makes sense in a total nonsensical way. :p

    there are plenty of alternative energy sources out there ... they just don't happen to control congress ...
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Conspiracy theory:
    What if somebody has invented a better car than a hybrid, and the Bush admin has had them killed quietly.
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    _outlaw wrote:
    so we waste money looking for oil and paying corrupt oil companies to take care of it, instead of looking for alternative fuel sources?

    I guess that makes sense in a total nonsensical way. :p


    Ridiculous argument.

    Can't do both huh?

    Can't possibly investigate other methods while drilling?

    Explain why not
    I'll keep taking punches
    Untill their will grows tired
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    This is the biggest red herring since going to war with Iraq.

    There's no such thing as "American Oil". Its pumped then enters world market not the US market.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    The highest bidder will get the offshore oil. This isn't cheap stuff for the U.S only.. in 5 years when gas prices are $10 a gallon, the offshore drilling will knock it back to $9.50 and save the economy. :rolleyes:
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,655
    Well hopefully Congress will not be as short sighted. Bush lifting the ban is useless, without Congressional approval they can't start drilling.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,067
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Ridiculous argument.

    Can't do both huh?

    Can't possibly investigate other methods while drilling?

    Explain why not
    If you don't mind spending your taxpayers' money on this shit, then be my guest. I, on the other hand, don't really want these temporary "solutions" to do nothing but just DELAY the ACTUAL big problem on hand...

    No one except the oil companies win in this scenario... the environment suffers tremendously, and as I said in the post you quoted:
    so we waste money looking for oil and paying corrupt oil companies to take care of it, instead of looking for alternative fuel sources?
    The oil companies do what they want with it. Meaning it all won't make its way back to the US, they can make more money exporting to other countries/companies...

    We don't need 5 more years of looking for oil, we need to start turning to other sources of energy...
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,067
    polaris wrote:
    there are plenty of alternative energy sources out there ... they just don't happen to control congress ...
    callen wrote:
    This is the biggest red herring since going to war with Iraq.

    There's no such thing as "American Oil". Its pumped then enters world market not the US market.
    The highest bidder will get the offshore oil. This isn't cheap stuff for the U.S only.. in 5 years when gas prices are $10 a gallon, the offshore drilling will knock it back to $9.50 and save the economy. :rolleyes:

    agreed...
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,888
    good. gas prices SHOULD drop.

    sure they will...
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,655
    This new initiative to drill for oil of shore is laughable. Best estimates is that off shore drilling would yield 18 billion barrels of oil over time. Currently the US consumes a little over 20.5 million barrels of oil per day. Do the math kiddies and that is only enough oil to feed our addiction for a little over two years. Now that 18 billion barrel estimate is not what they can produce years from off shore drilling but what can be produced over the entire life span of those reserves.

    So our illustrious president's solution to the problem is to risk the environment of our coastal waters to produce, over the span of several years, enough oil to feed us for a little over two years. The yearly output of these wells wouldn't be enough to even make a dent in the worldwide supply so the price wouldn't even dip.

    You have to wonder why he would be pushing such a solution when the only benefit would be to the companies that actually extract, refine and produce petroleum.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,888
    mammasan wrote:
    You have to wonder why he would be pushing such a solution when the only benefit would be to the companies that actually extract, refine and produce petroleum.

    ding ding ding
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  • Did anyone catch the part of this where the profits are going TO THE TREASURY!!?!!

    I need to check the record, but up on CNBC they had a bullet point talking about this, and they said like

    50% of the profits from this will go to the treasury.
    20% will go to "conservation"
    30% will go to the state the drilling takes place in or something?

    WHEN DID WE GO FULL OUT SOCIALIST?

    What is this crap?
    Nationalized oil ?!?!

    And what we need is MORE REFINERIES,
    not more oil.
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  • peacegirl
    peacegirl Posts: 841
    its like trying to fix a decapitation by using a band-aid.

    agreed