verbal agreements vs. contracts

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    mammasan wrote:
    Gue_Barium did you go to college? Because if you did then you have signed a contract. Ever belong to a gym or any type of membership to an organization? Ever have a subscription to any type of publication? Ever own or use a library card? All of these are contracts that you may have entered in to.

    I kind of want to know how he/she is online? I had to sign something for my cable internet at home, and I had to sign a usage agreement here at work (which I am obviously not abiding too :) )

    edit: nevermind... i saw your answer in an earlier post....1
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    soulsinging wrote:
    ooooooooh shit!

    If you go back and read the small print P.J. owns 50% of everything we have.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    gue_barium wrote:
    Interesting to note that 'verbal agreement' has yet to make an argument in this topic. Everyone focuses on the contract.
    It's just the world we live in, I suppose, huh.

    Solution: Join the mafia, where your word is your life.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If you go back and read the small print P.J. owns 50% of everything we have.

    based on the amount of money that I have spent in the past 10+ years of my life because of Pearl Jam, I would say that's about right :)
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You've got it backwards. Honest people don't have anything to fear from contracts. Honest people use contracts to ensure that their expectations and commitments are in writing.
    Exactly. Contracts ensure that all parties know exactly what is expected of them, and what they may expect in return. Even when all parties are honest, a contract can avoid costly misunderstandings.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If you go back and read the small print P.J. owns 50% of everything we have.

    I'm not looking for solutions to this. I was just looking to see how my opinion stacked up against the norm.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    Exactly. Contracts ensure that all parties know exactly what is expected of them, and what they may expect in return. Even when all parties are honest, a contract can avoid costly misunderstandings.

    As long as bankers and lawyers are kept out of it, I can see myself signing a contract as long as I have a hand in writing it up.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    gue_barium wrote:
    As long as bankers and lawyers are kept out of it, I can see myself signing a contract as long as I have a hand in writing it up.
    You can always have a hand in writing it up. You cross out what you don't agree to, and write in what you find necessary. As long as all parties initial all of the changes and sign it, you're all set. Of course, if you don't know what you're doing you might render the entire thing unenforceable, but I guess that's the risk you'll have to take if you want to keep the lawyers out.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    More of a verbal agreement, I think.


    marriage is a contract.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    You can always have a hand in writing it up. You cross out what you don't agree to, and write in what you find necessary. As long as all parties initial all of the changes and sign it, you're all set. Of course, if you don't know what you're doing you might render the entire thing unenforceable, but I guess that's the risk you'll have to take if you want to keep the lawyers out.

    Oh, come on, that's not how it works for the majority, and you know it. A couple goes into the bank for a home loan, a home they really need to raise a family in...where is that thread that was posted a few days ago about all the default mortgages? that's the reality of the contracts I'm talking about avoiding, and the reality that it is easy pickings for the banks and the way our laws are made.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jlew24asu wrote:
    marriage is a contract.

    I'll have to see you in person before I decide on that. :)
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    gue_barium wrote:
    Oh, come on, that's not how it works for the majority, and you know it. A couple goes into the bank for a home loan, a home they really need to raise a family in...where is that thread that was posted a few days ago about all the default mortgages? that's the reality of the contracts I'm talking about avoiding, and the reality that it is easy pickings for the banks and the way our laws are made.
    You didn't specify that you were talking about predatory mortgage contracts. You were talking about contracts very generally, and there are thousands of excellent reasons for signing them. Are there bad contracts? Of course there are. Are they all bad? No, most of them are beneficial to all parties.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    You didn't specify that you were talking about predatory mortgage contracts. You were talking about contracts very generally, and there are thousands of excellent reasons for signing them. Are there bad contracts? Of course there are. Are they all bad? No, most of them are beneficial to all parties.

    I think the banks are predatory.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    gue_barium wrote:
    I think the banks are predatory.
    So what is this thread about, banks or contracts?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    So what is this thread about, banks or contracts?

    Financial contracts with the banks, perhaps, and the laws/lawyers that make financial predation acceptable in this country. That would be most of the Washington, DC contingent, you know, our representative government.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hippiemom wrote:
    So what is this thread about, banks or contracts?

    neither....verbal agreements :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    neither....verbal agreements :D

    Finally!

    This moment brings a tear to my eye.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    gue_barium wrote:
    Financial contracts with the banks, perhaps, and the laws/lawyers that make financial predation acceptable in this country. That would be most of the Washington, DC contingent, you know, our representative government.
    I really don't understand how we got here from the thread title. You're not suggesting that anyone lend hundreds of thousands of dollars based on a verbal agreement, are you?
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    gue_barium wrote:
    Cable, credit cards, and rental cars I can do without. Utilities and internet are part of the rental agreement I have. I have a savings account at a credit union...and that was kind of a necessity in order to cash my payroll checks.

    You don't carry a credit card?......even if you don;t like to use it, it is handy in an emergency.

    do you not have a retirement plan?...that involves entering into a contract.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    vergal agreements aren't worth the paper they are printed on!

    thats an old saying!

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