verbal agreements vs. contracts

gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
I have no contractual agreements in my life at this time, and I'm happy about that. None at all. If I can eke my way through the rest of my life avoiding contracts I will be a happy man.
Anyone else feel this way?
Or, is "the contract" an unavoidable fact of life?

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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    gue_barium wrote:
    I have no contractual agreements in my life at this time, and I'm happy about that. None at all. If I can eke my way through the rest of my life avoiding contracts I will be a happy man.
    Anyone else feel this way?
    Or, is "the contract" an unavoidable fact of life?
    Wow, you live without insurance of any type. Pretty risky.
    I don't have a problem with contracts as I know I'll keep my end of whatever I sign on to. Current contracts are insurance, mortgage, credit cards, cable, hydro power.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    I have no contractual agreements in my life at this time, and I'm happy about that. None at all. If I can eke my way through the rest of my life avoiding contracts I will be a happy man.
    Anyone else feel this way?
    Or, is "the contract" an unavoidable fact of life?

    No you can live your entire life without ever having to sign a contract but it's pretty damn hard. It means no marriage, no house, no new car, no credit cards, no school loans or loans of any type. The list goes on but I think these are the major things in life that require a contract.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    surferdude wrote:
    Wow, you live without insurance of any type. Pretty risky.
    I don't have a problem with contracts as I know I'll keep my end of whatever I sign on to. Current contracts are insurance, mortgage, credit cards, cable, hydro power.

    I do have health insurance. Though it is a contractual agreement, it goes hand-in-hand with my employment, so I sort of blur the line on that one. Other than that, nada.

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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    gue_barium wrote:
    I do have health insurance. Though it is a contractual agreement, it goes hand-in-hand with my employment, so I sort of blur the line on that one. Other than that, nada.
    No home insurance of any type like fire or theft, or life insurance. You are either happy to risk your family's financial situation or still young and without a family.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    mammasan wrote:
    No you can live your entire life without ever having to sign a contract but it's pretty damn hard. It means no marriage, no house, no new car, no credit cards, no school loans or loans of any type. The list goes on but I think these are the major things in life that require a contract.

    I don't understand the 'marriage' contract. I understand being born in somebody else's debt, hence my desire to avoid contracts.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    I don't understand the 'marriage' contract. I understand being born in somebody else's debt, hence my desire to avoid contracts.

    Marriage in essence is a contract between two people.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    surferdude wrote:
    No home insurance of any type like fire or theft, or life insurance. You are either happy to risk your family's financial situation or still young and without a family.

    As soon as I can buy a home sans a contract, I might consider insurance of some sort, but I doubt it.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    mammasan wrote:
    Marriage in essence is a contract between two people.

    More of a verbal agreement, I think.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    As soon as I can buy a home sans a contract, I might consider insurance of some sort, but I doubt it.

    The banks hold your balls two handed with spiked gloves.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Contracts are wonderful devices. Not only are they unavoidable, I see no reason to avoid them.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    More of a verbal agreement, I think.

    No it's a contract. You have to sign on the dotted line when you get that Marriage license which makes it a contract.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Contracts are wonderful devices. Not only are they unavoidable, I see no reason to avoid them.

    I hate people like you.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    I hate people like you.

    That's a shame. But hate on, if that works for you.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    mammasan wrote:
    No it's a contract. You have to sign on the dotted line when you get that Marriage license which makes it a contract.

    Who says you need a marriage license to get married?

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    That's a shame. But hate on, if that works for you.

    Hate may be a strong word, but I disagree with you on the unavoidable part of which you speak.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    Who says you need a marriage license to get married?

    Well if you don't get the license then technically you are not married, in the laws eyes.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    Who says you need a marriage license to get married?

    The state.

    Now, I'm with you, I don't think the state should be involved. But if you have any issues of benefits or probate, without a marriage contract or domestic partner contract, your spouse will have a battle on his/her hands.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    mammasan wrote:
    Well if you don't get the license then technically you are not married, in the laws eyes.

    Oh, I guess that explains it.

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  • contracts bind...

    binding sucks...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    gue_barium wrote:
    Who says you need a marriage license to get married?

    In the US if you want to be legally married (medical benefits, tax benefits, next of kin type things, etc) you need a marriage license.

    Do you plan of ever getting a will?
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  • gue_barium wrote:
    Hate may be a strong word, but I disagree with you on the unavoidable part of which you speak.

    You can disagree all you like. I guess it probably comes down to a differing idea on the meaning of "contract". If you think it's possible and desirable to avoid contracts at all costs, more power to you. I certainly don't believe people should have to contract with others, I simply think it's in their best interests to do so and the fundamental meaning of exchange requires it.

    But if contracts aren't your thing, that's totally fine by me.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    Or, is "the contract" an unavoidable fact of life?

    Why would you want to avoid them? I guess I don't understand your basic premise. A contract, freely entered into by consenting adults, for a mutually beneficial reason sounds like a great idea.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jeffbr wrote:
    The state.

    Now, I'm with you, I don't think the state should be involved. But if you have any issues of benefits or probate, without a marriage contract or domestic partner contract, your spouse will have a battle on his/her hands.

    I fully agree that the government has no business sticking their nose in this but if you do want to protect your family you have to do it.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    The state.

    Now, I'm with you, I don't think the state should be involved. But if you have any issues of benefits or probate, without a marriage contract or domestic partner contract, your spouse will have a battle on his/her hands.

    With who? Really, I want to spend my life avoiding these vampires. I'm sure my spouse will feel the same way. There wont be anything to battle over.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    mammasan wrote:
    I fully agree that the government has no business sticking their nose in this but if you do want to protect your family you have to do it.

    Baloney. If you want to protect your family you teach them to stay away from those assholes.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Gue_barium I don't understand your dislike for contracts. They are there to protect all parties involved.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    In the US if you want to be legally married (medical benefits, tax benefits, next of kin type things, etc) you need a marriage license.

    Do you plan of ever getting a will?

    Nope.

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    Baloney. If you want to protect your family you teach them to stay away from those assholes.

    Baloney. If you meet someone and love each other she/he will never be able to receive your health benefits or be the benficiary of your life insurance unless you have that license. It sucks but the government has made it so you need to sign that contract in order to protect the one you love.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    With who? Really, I want to spend my life avoiding these vampires. I'm sure my spouse will feel the same way. There wont be anything to battle over.

    With who? With the state, insurance companies, etc... Unless you plan to be penniless and destitute, there will certainly be something to battle over.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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