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why cant obama admit it?
musicismylife78
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he has legitimate problems with americas race problem, yet talks little about race, poverty, the inner city, drugs and all that? Why?
He makes jokes about not being able to get a cab in NY because of his skin, yet refuses to talk about race in any other way than the big speech he gave earlier this year. I dont get it.
His wife talks about being happy for the first time with her country, I can understand completely what she means. But neither he nor she discuss deeply what was meant.
This is what I dont like about obama. Everyone acts like his is JFK or RFK or Jesus. He is none of them. All those people had big ideas and delivered. They werent hype.
To have problems with americas race problem is legitimate and justified. To speak vaguely on it, and act like you plan on doing something grand about it in inescusable.
RFK if elected would have been the first radical president. he would have ended vietnam. He would have been a friend and supporter of the poor and downtrodden. He would have made race a huge issue to debate and repair. There isnt a question about that.
With obama, you dont know. Is he for Iraq, or not. Will he get them out by 2013 or not. Will he attack Iran?
He makes jokes about not being able to get a cab in NY because of his skin, yet refuses to talk about race in any other way than the big speech he gave earlier this year. I dont get it.
His wife talks about being happy for the first time with her country, I can understand completely what she means. But neither he nor she discuss deeply what was meant.
This is what I dont like about obama. Everyone acts like his is JFK or RFK or Jesus. He is none of them. All those people had big ideas and delivered. They werent hype.
To have problems with americas race problem is legitimate and justified. To speak vaguely on it, and act like you plan on doing something grand about it in inescusable.
RFK if elected would have been the first radical president. he would have ended vietnam. He would have been a friend and supporter of the poor and downtrodden. He would have made race a huge issue to debate and repair. There isnt a question about that.
With obama, you dont know. Is he for Iraq, or not. Will he get them out by 2013 or not. Will he attack Iran?
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it looks like the spin works
Obama doesn't talk about race? Seriously? He spent all of March and April talking about race non-stop. He gave one of the greatest speeches this country has ever seen in regard to race.
Michelle has answered that claim hundreds of times. A 15 second google news search will answer that for you.
If you don't know where he stands on Iraq or Iran, than you haven't done your civic duty to be an informed voter.
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Agreed!
A little dramatic, don't ya think?
-- Glenn Reynolds, Instapundit
The Left is very invested in both preemptively delegitimizing criticism of Obama and framing opponents as de facto bigots.
http://thenextright.com/jon-henke/left-watch-2008-tactics
And so far, the most prominent bigot I've seen in this campaign?
Wright.... Nobody would ever take a candidate cozied up to Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell seriously at all. Wright is arguably worse than either.
In case you havn't noticed, Obama is a Black man running for president of the United States of America. First of all, it wouldn't probably further his cause much to stir the racial pot. RFK could theoretically discuss these issues much more forwardly being that he was a white fella. Couldn't really marginalize him as the angry Black candidate. What i don't get is just what news you've been paying attention to. Obama has already addressed race issues more than he should have to. Again, to echo what someone else has already stated, there was nothing "vague" about Obama's addresss on race.
he voted against iraq, but wasnt one of the radical people like kucinich or mckinney or robert byrd who really spoke out. he was asked if he was going to pull troops out, and refused to commit to pulling them out by the end of his first term.
and then both he and clinton recently, as in the last 4 months or so have been saying they will end the war in the first few acts they ever do as president.
gee I wonder why I would be confused? Yeah maybe its just me!
Or the little quoted excerpt from CSPAN back in 2002 when he said he wasnt a pacifist and felt that attacking iran and north korea was justified.
yet all these antiwar folks, love him.
gee why would I be confused.
I did my civic duty pal. I remain pledged to not vote for him. Thats doing my duty. You earn my vote. I dont just go gaga for the next "it" item of the year. I vote for tried and true people. The only person with a resume to lead the country and end the war is Nader. Case closed.
clarence thomas is black and so is larry elder it doesnt make them spokesman for the black underclass!
just because someone is black doesnt make them radical or mean that they speak for their race.
obama is previledged. He is a millionaire. A senator. He hasnt been on the south side of chicago that he talks about nonstop for awhile now. Or if he is, it isnt in a 1 room shack! Its in a mansion.
If their isnt anything vague about race issues and obama, why cant he talk about how Jeremiah Wright is right on, in his anger over race. Or why people have legitimate anger over race in america.
He speaks a sentence on it in the speech, but thats it. Wright speaks for some in the black community, doesnt address racial animosity.
he is a centrist.
he isnt left wing.
yet people act like he is god.
i personally dont get it
he is the same politically as every president before him.
then maybe 1 month later both started acting like pulling troops out of iraq would be one of their first acts.
this isnt something I dreamed up
people only see what they want to see.
people want obama to be this messiah and savior and a person of change so much, that the reality is hidden.
obama isnt radical
so why vote for him. if he is the same old same old, being a different shade of skin is basically negated.
I stopped believing politicians could change things or would change things long ago.
obama supporters have another thing coming, if he wins.
he aint gonna do squat.
when the war continues on, and he refuses to pull them out even by 2013.
people are gonna be pissed. and I am one of those people
Pay attention. i'll type slowly. Obama has done well. He has achieved some level of success. (He is about to achieve even more success by becoming the next president. Choke on it.) He wasn't born into that priveledge, however. You have no point. Next point; Clarence Thomas is a conservative republican so there is no sense trying to draw similarities based on melanin alone. Next, and i'm now reiterating what i've already stated, Obama is seeking the presidency of the united states of America. Not the Black States of America. Seen? He isn't seeking to speak just for his "race" but for all US citizens. Does that make sense to you? Proabably not. Jeremiah Wright is not running for president. He can say whatever he wants to. Obama has acknowledged, very well, the source of such anger. He seeks to transcend that. Get it? Probably not.
i personally don't get it.
Hey, if there are people who think he's the antichrist then I'm sure there are people who think he's god.
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please.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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are you rude and insensitive and trite
probably
gravel and kucinich are undeniably left wing and radical and liberal.
did obama agree with either of them on any issues?
theres your answer.
yes I know kucinich isnt a senator but still...
and he certainly wouldnt refuse to pull all troops out by 2013.
basic stuff here folks. aint marxist radical theory.
kucinich was in opposition to every person running for president in his party. they disagreed on basically everything
is he pro-war with Iran or North Korea? Or pro-leaving-all-options-on-the-table?
And if it's the second thing, then what is wrong with that? I'm not even an Obama supporter at this point, but if he wasn't open to using any option necessary to deal with these kind of emerging threats, then he has no business running for president in this day and age.
for the least they could possibly do
I have done all my homework. I have probably been a democrat longer than you have been alive. I am also a member of Obama's base. I am a college professor. Yet, I cannot help feeling that Obama is like the rebound boyfriend. Everyone is just so sick of Bush, including me, that he is attractive simply for not being Bush. His policies are so vaguely defined that the only way I know what he stands for is most reports I read say he will basically do the same things as Hillary Clinton. He talks about big ideas, but what is his big idea? Kennedy has get us to the moon. I was a little kid then, but the vision he put forth had an enormous impact on every aspect of American life. One of the biggest problems facing our country is finding a new energy source. It is not enough to say "we have to end our dependence on foreign oil." Hell, McCain says that. How will we accomplish this? We need someone who will present a challenge like Kennedy did with the space program. Tom Friedman has presented such a plan. The longer I live the more I think South Park had it right: our only choice will be between a douche and turd.
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Oh god, he's pro-war because he said he'd consider all options?
Pretty interesting how you interpret that...
this isn't so vague:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf
cross the river to the eastside
yeah, he didn't vote for it b/c he wasn't in the senate yet (and to his credit it probably would've been in the 40+% of the votes he missed
he also said not too long ago
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
tell it to this guy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JfuHT9vsxPE
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
uhhh..uhhh...uhhmmm but...
CHANGE!
...just put all your blind trust and hope in an increasingly vague politician and believe.
Awesome...woo...full support.. yeah!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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hey, man, he like....doesn't want to throw the troops like under the bus and stuff, ya know??
his plastic signs says it's change i can believe in
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Oh well fuck , if it's on a plastic sign it has to be true...
what was I thinking?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Iran?
Somebody lay it out because I've been on ALL the candidates websites and I have yet to read any real plan layed out for Iraq. Not Nader, Not McCain, Not Paul, Not Barr.
this is Obama's plan straight from his site
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
here's the best I could find on Nader's site
..no plan here at all
http://www.votenader.org/issues/middle-east/
here's Paul...he's gonna make a plan when he gets in office
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/iraq/
here's McCain.. he plans on staying
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/fdeb03a7-30b0-4ece-8e34-4c7ea83f11d8.htm
these are all from the campaign sites so you people can read them and get your facts straight because most of you are just talking stupid shit you don't know....
you should spend some time on this site so you aren't so misinformed
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
i have read his site and quoted it quite often, like when i broke down his health care plan (to which no one could reply to)
his site says he will leave troops in iraq after the withdrawl, look it up
his site says he only wants 25% renewable energy by 2025 and is pushing coal and nuclear energy
he will still use private contractors like blackwater, right?
he will do as little as he can for the ppl while being sure to look out for his campaign donors like the nuclear industry
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way