What is your concept of "death"?

rightondude wrote:

Well if you did live in a previous life, you have no recollection of it. Whomever you were, and all that you knew is dead anyways. So you might as well be dead, other than to comfort the person you are now.

Life does not end after death, only in the form that we know it. No part of us ever dies. It continues to live on in something else forever, adding, combining, multiplying giving birth to new life forms on a much smaller scale. But small and big is irrelevant. Be consoled in that statement alone if anything. The energy in our bodies never dies. It simply cannot. The configuration can change, but not the existence of.

Energy is never lost, it only changes shape. The carcass of a animal left alone in the artic tundra will enrich the soil and produce lush vegetation where the body once laid. Meanwhile, all around nothing grows. What parts or characteristics of you travel downwards in the chain of your existence into subsequent smaller microscopic nevending universes? For lack of a better term "God only knows". I bet we may be even be pleasantly surprised to get there and find out. If not, it won't matter to us anyways after the fact. It's a no lose situation depending on how you look at it. Odd way to put it eh?

However size downwards (or upwards) in magniutude is completely irrelevant when seen relevant to the observer, as is time. Reason being we have, and know of, the phenomena called infinity. So that is cool.

How much does our "spirit" or "brain" play into this process and remain? Probably more than we can and will ever realize.

This is reasonably close to what I believe, and saves me the trouble of trying to explain it, so thank you rightondude.

I don't think that anything that resembles "me" is immortal ... my personality, my thoughts, etc. That energy will be dispersed somewhere in some other form, and that's fine with me. I don't expect to ever find out for sure, because I don't think "I" will be around when it happens.

I've been told by many people that this is depressing, but it's very comforting to me. But if I'm wrong, that's ok too ... death will be an adventure, that's for sure. I love surprises.

I meant that energy does NOT die. Forgot the not.

Colbert will love you.

hippiemom wrote:

This is reasonably close to what I believe, and saves me the trouble of trying to explain it, so thank you rightondude.

I don't think that anything that resembles "me" is immortal ... my personality, my thoughts, etc. That energy will be dispersed somewhere in some other form, and that's fine with me. I don't expect to ever find out for sure, because I don't think "I" will be around when it happens.

I've been told by many people that this is depressing, but it's very comforting to me. But if I'm wrong, that's ok too ... death will be an adventure, that's for sure. I love surprises.

I think what I believe, is the basis for the original concepts of reincarnation.

Some people have changed it around to say you come back "here" in this place as a cat, or dog, or cow etc... I don't think that's what they originally meant. The science just wasn't around 5000 years or so ago to properly support or convey the notion of it at the time.

I always remind myself size is absolutely irrelevant (and time) in the big picture or "grand scheme".

Our memories and thoughts may not continue with us as exactly as we know them, but our physical legacy and existence most definitely will.

Before all of earth (and our solar system etc...) a truly massive sun went supernova. Boom! It passed through it's lifespan in it's existing physical configuration and expired.

By doing this, it created a whole set of new of elements and conditions that paved the way for all of us here on earth. The calcium in our bones, the iron in our blood. the oxygen we breathe (see periodic table of elements) etc etc.. We are that sun living and walking around and communicating together as a society. So really, it was in fact a birth! Not a "death" by any means.

There is no difference in that analogy to what the energy of our bodies will create on a infinitely smaller scale. Size is irrelevant.

Also, to truly understand infinity is to begin to comprehend that we can be, and are, all living exactly like we are now (doing this exact same thing) in infinite magnitudes of size and configurations relative to us "somewhere else".

Perhaps even within our own bodies. Actually... I dare say probably and definitely. To immediately deny or refuse that concept, is to deny, and not even understand, the existence of infinity itself.

Atoms of our bodies will become (and are) suns, supermassive suns, and universes relative to other chains in magnitude downwards. Big or small doesn't matter. Infinity could care less, ands so should we. We will give rise to societies, peoples, places, and things of unimaginable beauty, and purpose, and consequence endlessly.

Our energy will live on forever, and continue to create life forever. It's actually the best way, and only proper way, to think about it.

I really can't explain this properly on a keyboard. It needs a couple hours of verbal discussion (on a few good beers or some nice sweet herb) to appreciate fully.

Few people have reciprocated or even understand (or have even thought about) these observations that infinity is all around us and even within us.

There very well could be, and probably is, (I dare say foolish to think otherwise) societies, worlds, creatures and animals that live in every square inch of all that surrounds us. To deny that is to really to defy infinity.

Some would say "ya ya ya what are the chances of that"? So really...what are the odds?? Well...infinity has all the time in world to the point that time is absolutely meaningless in this regard. Infinity has some really super fantastic odds, and all the time in the world to make anything reality.

You can take a piece of something and continually cut it in half forever, as fast as you want, and still end up with a piece of something. At no point in time will you ever end up with absolutely nothing. There will always be a piece of something left to cut in half again, and again etc...

String theory assembles our universe in an organized grid like pattern to other universes (of our same magnitude). Essentially our universe can be reduced to something the size of an atom lined up with other atoms (universes) resembling an even larger organized structure. There is no end, and that's what makes it awesome.

Our energy patterns and lives influence infinitely more than we can ever know, or even fully realize all around us every day.

I believe there is something truly wonderful waiting for us at every single step in the process. That I'm quite certain of. We may leave this "place", however our energy patterns will be continually reborn and create new lives elsewhere, forever, and little piece(s) of us will be right there along with it all the way.

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I think I fought at Gettysburg. I also think I was a 30's Hollywood star.

That's nice to know when I don't even know me. Those two time frames fascinate me, so reincarnation is as good as any reason why that is.

THC wrote:

Personally I believe that physical bodies may die. However, I believe the spirit of life which we all have (including animals) - which I believe comes from the divine, never die (some could call this a soul..but i wouldn't even necessarily have to call it that..). I have this feeling we've all had consciousness before this 'life' we now know...and our realities will only be altered once our current physical bodies die.

What do other's think?

I agree with you. I've had numerous spiritual visitations from deceased loved ones. They've passed on the most wonderful information to me. I see that we are each eternal, without beginning or end, beyond our physical existence. I see that it is the birthright for each one of us to tap into our eternal nature in this lifetime, should we choose to do so. By expanding beyond our usual ideas and by learning to align with our eternal nature, we can rise beyond time, into concepts such as pure unity/eternity. When we do so in this lifetime, we become activated and we become one with our purpose to make our deepest dreams come true. All things become possible. We also realise there is no such thing as failure, that each aspect of each moment is sacred, and we realise death is a transition, not an end.

suffragette wrote:

I think I fought at Gettysburg. I also think I was a 30's Hollywood star.

How come everyone that believes they were reincarnated has delusions of grandeur? I was Napoleon. I was a King. I was Jesus' right hand man.

Why do we never hear things like... I was a small retarded boy sold to the circus and born in Romania . I was a janitor at a meat packing facility in the 30's. I was the guy who used to fix the thing that was used to fix the first air-conditioners? Where are all these people?

69charger wrote:

How come everyone that believes they were reincarnated has delusions of grandeur? I was Napoleon. I was a King. I was Jesus' right hand man.

Why do we never hear things like... I was a small retarded boy sold to the circus and born in Romania . I was a janitor at a meat packing facility in the 30's. I was the guy who used to fix the thing that was used to fix the first air-conditioners? Where are all these people?

Because great minds can envision, and achieve, great things. People that have no understanding or positive outlook in this regard, are the guys mopping up dreggs (and wondering why).