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I have never voted for a Democrat in my life, but on Tuesday, I will be voting for Obama for President. This is not because I woke up recently and suddenly realized I'm a Democrat. It's because I can no longer vote for a Republican Party that is represented by people who champion ignorance over intellectualism. I supported Ron Paul in the primaries, and I was infuriated when he was treated like a joke by those running against him (Giuliani, McCain, Romney, etc). The GOP has surely lost it's way, and is paying the price for it now. After Tuesday, the GOP needs to purge itself of the religious nuts, the uninformed, and the rednecks, or it will be decades before they gain power again.
Hopefully, Republicans will reflect on why they lost so badly, and realize that the future of the party is not Sarah Palin, but people who think like Ron Paul.
Anyway, if the GOP is represented by Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, and other know nothings, they are doomed.
It was refreshing to see people like Colin Powell, Chris Buckley, William Weld, Ken Duberstein, Susan Eisenhower, Ken Adelman, and other prominent Republicans come out to support Obama. Thank God there are still some sane Republicans out there. Maybe, the party can be saved afterall.
Hopefully, Republicans will reflect on why they lost so badly, and realize that the future of the party is not Sarah Palin, but people who think like Ron Paul.
Anyway, if the GOP is represented by Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, and other know nothings, they are doomed.
It was refreshing to see people like Colin Powell, Chris Buckley, William Weld, Ken Duberstein, Susan Eisenhower, Ken Adelman, and other prominent Republicans come out to support Obama. Thank God there are still some sane Republicans out there. Maybe, the party can be saved afterall.
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Vote for Ron Paul with a write in or vote for Chuck Baldwin whom he endorsed.
have to admit ... if you support him, vote for him ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I've thought about a write in vote, But I like a lot of what Obama seems to stand for. Not all of it, but a lot.
plus i live in a very red state and my vote wont make a difference anyway. might as well vote 3rd party and maybe force the republican party to remake itself and lose the socially conservative ignorant bullshit.
i hope Obama wins though.
You can NOT vote for Ron Paul.
HE HAS NO ELECTORAL SLATE TO ELECT!
YOU CAN NOT VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
If you wanted to vote for Ron Paul,
Vote Baldwin or McKinney.
PERIOD.
That being said,
TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER,
i agree with half your sentiment -- the GOP is putting the lid in their own coffin.
However, i think it's foolish to think that the Dems have their shit together any better.
Why would someone looking for a small government conservative candidate, concerned with personal liberties, sovereignty, and fiscal responsibility turn to an institution like the Democratic Party for answers?
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
isn't Ron Paul on the ballot in Montana and Louisiana?
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Exactly. I smell a rat.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Congrats. But, your post makes little sense. Obama is completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from someone like Ron Paul.
But that party has been kidnapped bt the fanatics and the derilects.
Obama is much closer to Paul than McCain is.
If the Gop could find itself and become about small government and very limited foriegn interference then it would be a party I could look at. But I think the religious right has a strangle hold.
Well... here's my take...
Rank Highest to Lowest (Highest 3, Mid 2, Lowest 1)
Spending:
Obama 3
McCain 2
Paul 1
Taxes:
Obama 3
McCain 2
Paul 1
Free Trade:
Paul/McCain for it
Obama for "fair trade"
So, that's the economic take.
National Defense:
McCain 3
Paul 2
Obama 1
Paul supports strong national defense, but doesn't support Iraq war.
Lastly,
Paul is Pro-life. Which means he's on McCains side. As he is with most moral issues.
So, even if you say Paul is closer to Obama in foreign policy (which I don't believe is the case), I think you'd agree as far as moral issues and tax policy go, he's not closer to Obama and is closer to McCain.
He should be, he's a conservative. But there's no doubt he's closer to Obama than McCain on foreign policy, although truth be told I don't think he's that similar to either. Paul is a strict non-interventionist. He opposed the Iraq war resolution, and has condemned the sabre-rattling in regards to Iran on the part of the Bush administration and the Republican Party. He has criticized the "War on Terror" waged by the U.S. for as he perceives it, its' negative effect on the civil liberties of citizens. He supported working through the UN in regards to Iraq, as opposed to unilateralism. He supports ending the embargo with Cuba. On these and other issues, although the ideology that leads him to these policy positions may be different than most liberals, these positions nevertheless are closer to a liberal foreign policy position than the typical modern Republican. Additionally, on most of these major foreign policy issues, he is closer to Obama than McCain.
I think you're right to say on social and economic issues he's closer to McCain than Obama, but not foreign policy.
I think you're wrong on pretty much everything here except for the pro-life bit.
Are you saying Ron Paul is pro-big-government and pro-spending?
because he would love to drasticaly slash the federal budget.
Also, Ron Paul has been outspoken about his beliefs with regards to "free trade", and he does NOT support it. He is more against it than Obama, even though that isn't saying much. I mean, Obama is full of shit on that point. Sorry, its true.
AND YOU PUT PAUL BELOW MCCAIN ON TAXES?
WTF?
The guy would love to get rid of pretty much ALL taxes.
How the fuck can you put him below McCain, much less Mr. I Would Love For The Government To Pay for EVERYTHING Obama.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
I think you read his post very, very wrong.
* Rep. Paul is a self-described "pro-life libertarian" who believes that Roe v. Wade should be overturned. He says abortion is not a constitutional issue.
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* He voted to ban partial birth abortions, and would not give U.S. aid to help fund family planning abroad.
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* He would not restrict the ability of someone to help a minor cross state lines for an abortion and would not make it an additional crime if a fetus is killed in an attack on a pregnant woman.
I really don't see this as pro-life. More of a Libertarian stance that government has no business being involved. It seems he really is pro-choice.
guess I'm not a real RP supporter then, thanks for clearing that up.....
I'm not voting for Obama because I agree with him on everything, which I don't. I'm voting for him because the alternative is McCain/Palin. I would write-in Ron Paul's name and vote for him, but that wouldn't do much good, since it's obvious that either McCain or Obama will be out next President.
I am breaking with my party based solely on the fact that Obama has a lot of positives going for him. I believe he has the ability to unite the country if he doesn't let Congress pull him too far to the left. I also think under his leadership, we will get out of Iraq quicker, which Ron Paul would appreciate.
Believe me, if Ron Paul was running against Obama instead of McCain/Palin, Obama wouldn't be getting my vote. I just see a better alternative with Obama at this point.
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Very well said. I also admire Chuck Hagel. It's a shame he didn't run. He's a very bright guy.
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I don't see how you can vote for Obama when he is going to tax us blind, something Paul is against. Plus Obama favors amnesty for illegal aliens which I am very much against, while Paul favors ending the birthright amendment and does not support amnesty, which I am for. Those are my two voting points.
I'm curious who you voted for in the last 3 elections?
There's talk about him possibly being Secretary of State/Defense should Obama win the election. I hope that happens, for I agree that he seems very intelligent.
Please, re-read my post. You aren't making even the slightest bit of sense. You are taking the ranking system (which I explained in detail in the post) and throwing it out the window. So, in turn, you come up with the complete opposite take-away than what was meant to occur.
Next time, try reading the whole post.
the GOP has got to be the least fiscally responsible government out there ... i would say a green party gov't would be more fiscally responsible than the GOP ..
and i'll say it again - how can ANYONE vote for mccain/paling aka bush v. 2.0 in this election? ... unless you think the last 8 years have been the best years of your life - voting GOP again is ridiculous ...
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I get that. It's understandable given the transgressions and in actions of this group of people. If you're not willing to vote 3rd party it's a completely understandable line of thought. Absolutely nothing wrong with being disgusted with this incarnation of the republican party.
Even if you consider yourself a republican. They've done virtually nothing to earn your vote. Even thier commercials ring hollow. They've been towing a bad line for years now. Way to far to the moral side, while ignoring thier role in size and scope on the economic end.
When you have some lady singing Redneck Woman at your rally clearly you've lost touch with the intellectual side of your party.